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Do you feel the expansion should finish Hawke's story?


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Pious_Augustus

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And the expansion should be as long as the first game.........

And I dont mean long by heading all hard monsters in overused dungeons either. I want a full game the brings an end to Hawke

Modifié par Pious_Augustus, 22 mars 2011 - 03:19 .


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Finish Hawke's story . . . how, exactly?

Don't get me wrong, I also felt a sense of "I didn't actually do anything in this game, did I?" at the end.

I just don't know about "Hawke's story". You mean what goes on after Kirkwall? I'm not sure that makes sense - Hawke was famous for being the Champion of Kirkwall . . . and however unfullfilling it was, we got that story, and it's over.

Can you elaborate on what you're looking for from "Hawke's story"?

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Pious_Augustus

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It seems he is only famous for setting in motion something the Warden could of accomplished in one of his visits though the story of Dragon Age II was rich I want more from this hero

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Was Hawke a hero? I didn't get hero vibe at all.

I got someone in the wrong place, at the wrong time, who couldn't turn a corner without running into a lunatic, or someone who can't find their shoe.

Other than fighting the Arishok, my Hawke didn't do anything I would consider "heroic".  And even that's questionable.

Modifié par TJPags, 22 mars 2011 - 03:35 .


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koshiee

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yes chantry/templar mage war happens and i want to know where Hawke ends up in that war.

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Exactly. Hawke feels like John McLane but without the yeeepie kai yay mother****er.

And the awesome one liners.

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The problem is, the set up for DA:A was much more... specific. They said in the epilogue that they would send the warden to deal with the darkspawn in Amaranthine. In DA2, they are leading into something far more... important. The war between the Templar and the Mages and in fact, the entire chaos which has gripped the world is not something you would want done in an expansion. If anything, they would go into depth as to why Hawke vanishes. (Beyond just losing his/her nerve)

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I have a gut feeling they are setting up Hawke to be..a Shepard like figure. (Not trying to fan the Dragon effect flames here, but it's the best example I can think of).

I'm betting our Hawkes will be returning in Dragon Age 3, with bridging or...silly DLC in the mean time.
But who knows, maybe he/she will be set aside like our wardens in a new game. But my belief lies on the contrary.

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I say Hawke is just another hero in Thedas just as the Hero of Fereldan was. Perhaps we will not see Hawke in the third installment but instead a new hero will set things right, or perhaps Hawke will have little involvement in the next game while the new hero set balance to Thedas.

But then again the Seeker did say the only person capable of fixing this whole mess is the Champion who has been there from the very start.

As cool as Hawke is, I really hope he does not become the Shepard of Dragon Age.

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I want an expansion that shows where he went when he disappeared and how he is connected to our Wardens.

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Pious_Augustus

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I am sorry I was out of it sick yesterday but what I really mean it Hawke was nothing compared to the Warden what Hawke started is pretty much as exciting as it was to visit each village in Orgins. I think Hawke really needs to be shown for what he is going to do and how he is going to change the world.

I think the events that happened are messed up and sad but to be honest how it was advertised Hawke had some glowing red powers like he was a Demi God or something. I think thats when we all thought he was related to Morgan.

Next hero should be more of a Hybrid Spellcaster focusing on either fighting or magic but have both and not limited.

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Zulmoka531 wrote...

I have a gut feeling they are setting up Hawke to be..a Shepard like figure. (Not trying to fan the Dragon effect flames here, but it's the best example I can think of).

I'm betting our Hawkes will be returning in Dragon Age 3, with bridging or...silly DLC in the mean time.
But who knows, maybe he/she will be set aside like our wardens in a new game. But my belief lies on the contrary.


i think the game make that clear.

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LightningOkami

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I was very curious about what happened to my Hawke and Isabela after it all.. I know they stayed side by side but.... *imagination takes me away somewhere*

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Hawke didn't do anything but kill a lot of people. Anders was the one who set things in motion. Hawke just cleaned up the mess. Kinda like Harry Potter in the first book, where Harry doesn't really do anything.

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Yes.

And I want Hawke to die in the end.

Why? That's final. The Warden didn't get that. In the epics of old the heroes always die at the end, that's part of the appeal. Beowulf is about the rise of Beowulf to eventual king and then his final fight and stab at glory.

There's a massive Templar/Mage war, threats of war within and without Orlais, and the Qunari Arishok promises Hawke that they'd return to Kirkwall (even if you kill him he promises this). War is everywhere and there's multiple causes that Hawke could fight and die for.

Let's send Hawke off with a glorious and heroic death. Something we'd all remember and something that could be imported into the next game, one cause having the Champion of Kirkwall as a mascot/figurehead and the other not.

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Yeah, Hawke is insignificant. Let's get the warden back as tha PC in DA3. Hawke can be a companion :)

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Mweah. I'd prefer Hawke over the Hero of Ferelden (Warden). Both the HoF and the Champion were placed into a situation whereby they could only do one thing: fight. If I remember correctly the Warden from the Couslands had his/her back against the wall when being recruited, the Dalish ... (don't know anymore) and the Dwarf and Mage were also in a tight spot. So wrong place wrong time? Mweah... that doesn't make the Champion less than the HoF in my book.

The Champion has a role to play in this fight between Templars and Mages; something a Warden has no (core) business in. That's apart from a taint creeping up the Warden, so that his/her lifetime is soon to be at an end. I'd prefer if the Champion plays a central role in DA3, whereas the Warden can play a secondary role as companion.

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the stupid thing about DA2 is whatever you do doesnt affect anything,in the end we will know the circle rebel and burn the city around the world..I thought thats because I help the Templar,but its the same ending when I help the mage..I almost cry when the Chantry got destroyed and I kill Anders,but the ending is totally rubbish,no followup of each character all nothing,I got a feeling Bioware want to earn $$$ so I guess everything will be in DLC or expansion..

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There are a few things to note I suppose.

One is we still aren't necessarily going to pick up from where Cassandra and Leliana left off with any DA2 DLC or Expansion. This point (the Varric Sessions) I would imagine is the chronological starting point for DA3. DA2 DLC is more likely to expound on what Hawke did immediately after Kirkwall, and what led to his edventual disappearance. I see the DLC as being like ME2: Hawke is still in Kirkwall with his current pals. An expansion will take it further (new location, new companions).

Second is that Hawke is not and never will be Shepard. I believe Bioware flat out stated that they are doing one thing with Mass Effect and Shepard and something else entirely with Dragon Age. So while DA2 feels to some degree like a swords and sorcery Mass Effect, we won't see Hawke return for DA3 like Shepard will for ME3, and did for ME2.

So to answer the initial question. Should it finish Hawke's story period? No. Should it finish Hawke's story as the player character? Yes.

Foolsfolly wrote...

Yes.

And I want Hawke to die in the end.

Why? That's final. The Warden didn't get that. In the epics of old the heroes always die at the end, that's part of the appeal. Beowulf is about the rise of Beowulf to eventual king and then his final fight and stab at glory.


Hah. That's good old Scandinavian mythology for you, everybody dies all of the time! Admittedly Beowulf is a Saxon story but its very Norse in a lot of areas.

Modifié par Noatz, 23 mars 2011 - 12:40 .


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I wish they would. I want a new PC next game. Hawke wasn't bad but I want to play someone that actually has an affect on things...like the warden...yes it all ended in killing the Archdemon but of course it would..still your actions/choices in DA:O changes things...from the Dalish to the Werewolves to the Mages to the Dwarves. In DA2 Hawke's actions change nothing....Orsino still goes abomination and you have to kill him, Meredith still tries to kill you..Anders still blows up the chantry...your mother still dies...etc.

Hawke is just there to watch the world unfold...The Warden at least could change the world around him/her...

I'm not saying I want the Warden back in DA3..but I do hope they "conclude" Hawkes story so we can get a new PC that actually effects the world instead of just being part of it.

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The reason templar mage decision doesn't really matter the end. is simple the circles were not going get slaughter like the circle of kirkwall. they choose die fighting for their freedom. the massacre was the last straw. we knew trouble was already brewing from wtnne in da:a and some extend from origins

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JJDrakken

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This game nothing more then expensive DLC platform, expect tons of DLCs.

JJ

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DA3 will have a new character. Hawke and the Warden are gone. Not missing, not dead, just gone. As in their tales are done.

"Do we go with plan B or do we continue to search?" or some such. Plan B will be a new character in a new setting.

SO I think Hawke's story is over for the most part (same as the wardens).

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Hawke felt more like a bystander during the Mage-Templar conflict. The only thing he really did was kill the Arishok, if you chose that way ofcourse.

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I don't think it needs to be as long. If it's 20-30 hours, I'll be happy.

But yes, of course. Any expansion that they might release should absolutely continue the Champion's story.