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[Tom Jolly]

 I don't give a flying rat's a-hole WHAT the DLC finnishes...unless is garners RAVE reviews and is proclaimed to have fixed all that's wrong with the game,  I'm not buying it.  This game is drivel compared to DA;O and I'm not spending another dime on it.

[AlexXIV]

I don't think anything aside from DA3 can properly finish Hawke's story. I mean by the end of DA2 Hawke is a rather forgetable character.

[Suron]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I don't think it needs to be as long. If it's 20-30 hours, I'll be happy.

But yes, of course. Any expansion that they might release should absolutely continue the Champion's story.

HAHA...look at awakening...it was like 1/8th the content/playtime for 3/4ths the cost.

20-30 hours will likely cost you $50

[Osmedirez]

Well, I think that The Warden and Hawke should be Martyrs which begin the 3rd game. OR do a 3rd game, add another character, and do 3 martyrs for a new game. The next age (not Dragon Age).

It just seems to me that playing a prologue with The Warden (somehow have his/her face covered and voice unavailable for some plotish reason) and Hawke and whomever doing something that either causes or tries to prevent this "big change" that's supposedly still comming. They die in the process and the characters from said future game (be it 3 or "New" age) are the ones who have the deal with the consequences. Just a thought.

[Arppis]

"FINISH THE FIGHT!"
That should be the advert phrase! ;3

[DJ0000]

I'm pretty sure that Hawke will not some back beyond explaining why he/she disappeared.

They said that the point of the series is that it is about the Age and different stories with different people, and that it isn't about one person.

To me that suggests that each game will have a new protagonist. I do hope for a return in the next game though I doubt it.

[Halo Quea]

Hawke had a story?

[Maria Caliban]

TJPags wrote...

Finish Hawke's story . . . how, exactly?

That's a good question.

The most I got from Hawke's story was that it was rags to riches. In that case, it really ended at the end of Act 2.

[JamieCOTC]

The only question that really remains is where did Hawke go and they're not about to answer that in a DLC, probably not even in a proper expansion.

[Numbnumb27]

Tom Jolly wrote...

 I don't give a flying rat's a-hole WHAT the DLC finnishes...unless is garners RAVE reviews and is proclaimed to have fixed all that's wrong with the game,  I'm not buying it.  This game is drivel compared to DA;O and I'm not spending another dime on it.

I am with you.  I am done with Bioware games.

[Freeway911]

At the end of the game Varric says all the companions lefts Hawkes side for one reason or another. I can see each being the when and why behind that.

[Critical Miss]

I don't think the hero and champion story is over. Liliana implied this at the end of the game.

[mesmerizedish]

Suron wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I don't think it needs to be as long. If it's 20-30 hours, I'll be happy.

But yes, of course. Any expansion that they might release should absolutely continue the Champion's story.

HAHA...look at awakening...it was like 1/8th the content/playtime for 3/4ths the cost.

20-30 hours will likely cost you $50

Origins was 55 hours, Awakening was 20.

DAII was 55 hours, a potential expansion should be... [take your best guess. please ]

If Awakening was shorter for you, that's irrelevant. I'm talking about how long it should take me to complete, based on my playtimes for both games and Awakening.

[OmegaBlue0231]

I think bioware will answer a few questions with expansions, but I have a feeling it won't be the last of Hawke.

[Another_Golden_Dragon]

A return of Hawke is possible, and the more likely as DA2 did not allow for any Ultimate Sacrifice, so therefore Hawke WILL live in every scenario.

A return of the Warden from Origins is problematical. My most favourite Warden, Kalliana Tabris (City Elf Female Origin), fears mages and magic. Wynne typically manages to overcome that (despite, or perhaps because of, her preachiness), but Morrigan never does. As simple Tactics demand that one Warden remains at the gate (and we don't get that choice), the only ending available is Ultimate Sacrifice.

This must be considered, so not every Warden can return.

[Korusus]

Absolutely. Finish Hawke's story in an expansion/DLC...whatever...won't buy it anyway. He/she is rubbish as a protagonist. Return to the player made characters for DA3. Whatever they do, let them do it quickly so we can get DA2 behind us and forgotten. New story and setting for DA3 please, thank you. 

And no more "Please insert more money here" endings.

Modifié par Korusus, 23 mars 2011 - 09:34 .

[Tamahome560]

Either an expansion or DA3. I have a feeling he is still far from reaching his true destiny. I mean he didn't leap so we don't know if he can fly .

[monopoly1888]

Pious_Augustus wrote...

I am sorry I was out of it sick yesterday but what I really mean it Hawke was nothing compared to the Warden what Hawke started is pretty much as exciting as it was to visit each village in Orgins. I think Hawke really needs to be shown for what he is going to do and how he is going to change the world.

I 100% agree!! Warden would go to the dalish and go kill all the werewolves for them, with some side quests and a big boss. The dwarves made the warden do numerous quests and then go to the deep roads to fight numerous bosses as powerful as the arishok or orsino. All hawke did was fight his way through high and lowtown to get to the arishok then kill him. the warden did more in the deep roads all.

Also, i think hawke was simply a bystander. He was a capable man who found himself at the wrong place at the wrong time so he got roped into helping. he proved to be useful so he was used with bigger conflicts with no way out.

I feel the whole thrid act was the equivalent to the landsmeet. do some quests, fight to the lansmeet and kill loghain.all act three was fight through a town and kill meridith. there was no difference from the rest of the game.

Hawke needed to be more defined in role in the city and made more important choices. Example, Aveline has some big issue and calls hawke as a settlerso she doesnt favor one side. Atleat one big decision ot define his character and the storty.

I think that Hawke will be in da3 along with the warden, but the warden has more capability to stop things imo. Hawke is just a good fighter, but imo, not a good leader. Id like to see, Warden (sword shield) allistair (sword shield), varric (archer) and hawke (mage) in the DA3 party because he seems to be omre of a support character.

But i doubt that hawks story is done.:bandit:

[Reidbynature]

I felt Hawke's story was largely done at the end of DA2. It just didn't feel satisfying. I think the best to hope for would be an Awakening style expansion where it's a largely self contained mini adventure with a good story.

However I'm not that hopeful since after Awakenings they started ramping up the resource recycling and not properly finishing stories and DA2 continued that.

[DarkSpiral]

Given the way the franchise has been handled so far, I imagine we'll have a new protaganist for DA3. There were a lot of really heavy hints that the next setting is going to be Orlais. Or at least that Orlais is going to factor in to the next game, if not be the actual main location.

That however, is off topic for the thread, which is about expansions.

I personally think some expansions could fill in what the heck the Grey Wardens are doing during the events in Kirkwall. Nathaniel and the Senior Warden (either Stroud or Alistair) both drop hints that the Wardens are involved in something big during Acts 2 and 3. Granted, these hints could ALSO tie in to the next game. Also, since I'm on the subject, just who are the Warden-Commander's new, mysterious allies? Not the Disciples, because Nathaniel already mentioned them. These are questions I want answers to. Expansions seem the most likely source for those answers to me.

[gatorboy128]

They didn't really do anything with Hawke in the first place, so I don't really think they should "finish" something they never really started.

[TJPags]

Maria Caliban wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Finish Hawke's story . . . how, exactly?

That's a good question.

The most I got from Hawke's story was that it was rags to riches. In that case, it really ended at the end of Act 2.

There's my thinking.

I didn't see DA2 as the story of Hawke at all.  I saw it as the story of how the war started.

Hawke, for all his Champion title, and being the main character, is incidental to the story.  I'll direct you to the multitude of threads lamenting the inability of choices made in DA2 to actually alter anything.

Here's the story - a abunch of Ferelden refugees arrived in Kirkwall.  Some Qunari shipwrecked there also.  4 years later (or was it 3?  Whichever, somewhat irrelevant) the Qunari attacked the City.  They left without actually conquering the City.  3 years (or 4) later the Chantry blew up.  The Templars of Kirkwall assaulted the Mage Tower.  Mages across Thedas rebelled.

There you go.  That's the story of DA2.  Howake could have been replaced by anyone.  Hell, it could have been Meredith who stopped the Qunari, or Elfinna.  How they were stopped didn't matter - I therefore suggest that who stopped them is irrelevant as well.  Anders blew up the Chantry - whether you help him or not.  The Templars attack the mage tower - whether you help them or not.  Mages across Thedas rebel, no matter which side you take.

Varric was th narrator.  Hawke was not the point of the story - he was just the context in which Varric told it.

So, yea, I really don't see what "finish" there could be to Hawke's story.

[godlike13]

TJPags wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Finish Hawke's story . . . how, exactly?

That's a good question.

The most I got from Hawke's story was that it was rags to riches. In that case, it really ended at the end of Act 2.

There's my thinking.

I didn't see DA2 as the story of Hawke at all.  I saw it as the story of how the war started.

Hawke, for all his Champion title, and being the main character, is incidental to the story.  I'll direct you to the multitude of threads lamenting the inability of choices made in DA2 to actually alter anything.

Here's the story - a abunch of Ferelden refugees arrived in Kirkwall.  Some Qunari shipwrecked there also.  4 years later (or was it 3?  Whichever, somewhat irrelevant) the Qunari attacked the City.  They left without actually conquering the City.  3 years (or 4) later the Chantry blew up.  The Templars of Kirkwall assaulted the Mage Tower.  Mages across Thedas rebelled.

There you go.  That's the story of DA2.  Howake could have been replaced by anyone.  Hell, it could have been Meredith who stopped the Qunari, or Elfinna.  How they were stopped didn't matter - I therefore suggest that who stopped them is irrelevant as well.  Anders blew up the Chantry - whether you help him or not.  The Templars attack the mage tower - whether you help them or not.  Mages across Thedas rebel, no matter which side you take.

Varric was th narrator.  Hawke was not the point of the story - he was just the context in which Varric told it.

So, yea, I really don't see what "finish" there could be to Hawke's story.

Are u kidding? In either ending Hawke more of less starts a war, regardless if blank, blank, or blank could have done it, it was Hawke who is regarded as the rallying point. Clearly there's a story that can be told in what his role is in that war.

Unlike the Warden who's tale was about stopping the blight, and in one way or another got a finish to that tale, stopping the blight. Hawke's tale is more open ended, with no actual "ending" to his story, but rather were left with the beginning of something else.

Modifié par godlike13, 24 mars 2011 - 12:23 .

[Thomas Andresen]

koshiee wrote...

yes chantry/templar mage war happens and i want to know where Hawke ends up in that war.

That's the problem, really. The reason Cassandra is interrogating Varric is that Hawke has been missing for the past 3 years, and Varric is the only clue she has to what might have happened to him/her.

Later, however, is another case, though I fail to see how a continuation would fit. I mean, depending on your choices, Hawke really could be anywhere. The only thing that is really known, is that he/she is not in Kirkwall.

No, what further content I expect from is a new game, with a new character, which is centered around that war. I don't think that Hawke will, or should, return, though I thought the same about the Hero of Ferelden before Awakening.