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[maegi46]

He was a great character in Awakenings. Funny, spirited. Loved WOMEN. Not crazy or any terrorist tendencies. He wanted freedom yes and he got that by joining the Grey Wardens. At least in my game he did. He was a trusted friend and someone you could depend on with your life. He was not joined with Justice. Justice possessed a dead grey warden...

Then in DA2 his voice is changed, the writer is changed and his character is a direct 180 from what he used to be. Now he's pyschotic , possessed and gay. A terrorist incident waiting to happen. Not amused and not happy with the changes at all. Thoughts?

Modifié par maegi46, 22 mars 2011 - 04:47 .

[David Gaider]

MyKingdomCold wrote...
Plus, unless I'm mistaken you couldn't romance him or anyone in Awakening. He may have said he likes women in Awakening, but that doesn't mean he isn't bisexual. Or maybe Justice made him bisexual.

As stated, nobody could romance him in Awakening. He expressed an interest in women, yes, but as far as I know that doesn't preclude someone being bisexual-- though in neither game does he express a preference. Whatever someone chooses to perceive him as is up to them.

As for the other changes, we certainly did change his voice actor. The fact that he is no longer the same character, however, is because people change-- and he, in particular, has been through a lot since joining with Justice. He always had that streak of hatred towards the Circle. He just felt powerless to do anything about it.

If someone doesn't like the direction we take a character, however-- oh well. Wouldn't be the first time.

[David Gaider]

Brockololly wrote...
My issue with Anders in DA2 wasn't so much that he ended up doing what he did and all, but rather the disconnect from the last time we saw Anders in Awakening to when we see him in DA2. So that when you meet him in DA2, added with the new voice actor, he seems almost entirely like a different character- so any latent feelings for Anders from Awakening sort of dry up pretty quickly. If maybe we saw him as more Awakening style Anders in the start, had him take on Justice and then followed him down his descent into mage terrorism, that would have been more impactful for the player, as opposed to just having him start out as a pretty much foreign entity, despite having met him already in Awakening.

I get that "people change" but its more interesting when you can more clearly see that change happen before your eyes and its not all done off screen in between games, which is what it felt like with Anders.

Fair enough. I can't really argue with that-- nor could any creator when someone feels they had something different in mind for a character and doesn't like where you've taken them. I certainly can't argue with someone's feelings of attachment. He wasn't really present in the game in terms of a cameo (ie. there mainly to bank on previous feelings someone had), but if someone feels negative about it so be it.

Modifié par David Gaider, 22 mars 2011 - 05:46 .

[David Gaider]

Unichrone wrote...
You have a very good point, but is this really the reason why the character was changed?

The reason? The reason we wanted to develop his character that way was because that's where we wanted to take him. I'm not sure we need more reasons than that, do we?

Or are you using meta-game, real-life principles to justify arbitrary in-game nuances?

I'm not justifying anything. It doesn't get more arbitrary than the decision of what a creator does with their character-- we are, in fact, the arbiters.

And if he changed so much in the span of one year, how come he changed so little in the span of nine?

Seven.

And he changed so much in that first year because he was possessed by Justice, an event that obviously was not replicated afterwards. And I would say that he did indeed change over the course of the game. Jennifer did a fantastic job with him.

If you disagree, like I said before-- oh well. Sorry you feel that way. There tend to be a thousand opinions regarding any story about how people feel it could be done better. You'll find most of them on these forums. (And that's not to say I don't agree with some of them-- I always look back on whatever we done and get the shoulda-coulda-woulda's, that's just how it is.)

Modifié par David Gaider, 22 mars 2011 - 05:54 .