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[Ryzaki]

Mazder wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Only character who should get special treatment is Joker

He's the only one who can't die. Well him and Liara.

When the Reapers come all can die!

lol

I want a everybody dies ending just for the lulz. 

"You have failed to stop us Shepard." 

Have Harbinger staring dead at the player for added impact. And maybe have Shepard being thrown into a Reaper smoothie. 

[Mazder]

Commander_Adept wrote...

The Lesser Evil wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

I agree. Maybe it can work for women LIs with femshep because let's be honest, they can pretty much pick and choose. Men, OTOH, are either gay or they're not.

Congratulations, you wrote the most nonsensical thing I have ever seen.

Not really... That's basically a fact of life

Erm, no it's not, i'm still on the fence of what i actually am, i am living proof.

[Russalka]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
That's what I'm saying. I don't want to change them, though I'd be fine (and I'd support it) if there was new characters who were romanceable and they were bi or gay.

Why make a thread about it in the first place? It is very unlikely this is going to happen.

As you can see, this has the potential to offend many people.

[Mazder]

Ryzaki wrote...
lol

I want a everybody dies ending just for the lulz. 

"You have failed to stop us Shepard." 

Have Harbinger staring dead at the player for added impact. And maybe have Shepard being thrown into a Reaper smoothie. 

Oh i'm sure there will be an ending like that just for the hell of it.
If not they definitely should do it! 

[Ramirez Wolfen]

Russalka wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
That's what I'm saying. I don't want to change them, though I'd be fine (and I'd support it) if there was new characters who were romanceable and they were bi or gay.

Why make a thread about it in the first place? It is very unlikely this is going to happen.

As you can see, this has the potential to offend many people.

I just wanted to see where everyone else was at, while sharing my opinion. I do admit that the title should have been in a softer tone.

[nevar00]

I personally don't care. I don't mind them making the characters bi, but maybe have an option that is obvious to start a romance for those who don't want those characters to be outwardly 'bi'. I think they could pull it off honestly with each character as long as they make it realistic. It makes no difference to me as I doubt I'd ever us it, but I guess it'd be nice for those who want it.

[mopotter]

Sajuro wrote...

Mopotter
Actually Jack has stated in ME2 that she is bisexual.

 

That would make certainly make it consistent then.  They should have gone ahead and done it.  Sad that they must have thought it was too much work or who knows what they thought.  

[Elite Midget]

If they're all equal than none of them should return as Squaddies because that's the most Equal and Unbias decision to make.

Of course I'm holding my breath. There are many that don't about anything other than that "ME3 will be RUINED for ME if Tali and Garrus aren't back!"

[Maria Caliban]

Jack never said she was bisexual in ME 2. She said that she slept with a couple. Later on, she tells FemShep that she's not a girl's girl.

Just like a bisexual person can have a sexual history that includes only one sex, a straight woman can have a sexual history that includes both.

[Ryzaki]

Mazder wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
lol

I want a everybody dies ending just for the lulz. 

"You have failed to stop us Shepard." 

Have Harbinger staring dead at the player for added impact. And maybe have Shepard being thrown into a Reaper smoothie. 

Oh i'm sure there will be an ending like that just for the hell of it.
If not they definitely should do it! 

I have to make a worst playthrough import one of these days. I want to see if anything actally changes. 

[catabuca]

Wittand25 wrote...

I want fully developed s/s romances for both Shepard´s in ME3.
My ideal solution would be that if you import a safe in which Shepard had no romance during ME1 and ME2 you can start one with the VS regardless of gender. And since the VS could be (and by default is) opposite gender to Shepard there should be both an additional f/f and m/m romance with a new squad mate. That way you can have an m/m romance that spans the whole trilogie (even if it develops way slower than the other romances).

I absolutely love this idea.

[Mazder]

Ryzaki wrote...

I have to make a worst playthrough import one of these days. I want to see if anything actally changes. 

Well if Shepard dies in ME2 there is no ME3.

[Siansonea]

This thread is still around? Has to be one of the most successful troll threads to date, so kudos to the OP I guess.

[mopotter]

Wittand25 wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...
It ruins consistency, if you ask me. Also, does it matter that I'm a Tali fan? Some folks who agree with me aren't Tali fans. And please, PLEASE, stop talking about equality. This isn't about that. This is about not changing things to keep the characters constant.

And, I am currently considering working for Bioware(if they'll let me). And, once again, the DA2 romances were not the best.

That depends on how it is handeld. The ME2 team already went the cheap way and made all not romantic dialog identical for both Shepards. So several lines come across as if there is an attraction to a Shepard of the same sex but it is never acted upon. That could be used in ME3.

However I do not believe that the old squad-mates will be back. All but the VS and Liara can be dead after all. And the VS is in the same situation as the sibling in DA2, who gets removed from the rooster for the biggest part of that game too in order to safe resources. So any romances will be with new squad-mates anyway.

I would like the link where you find this information.  Chris has always said that the VS will be back in ME3 and that is why they were not in ME2.    I don't believe if you romanced Kaidan or Ash in ME1 they will not carry that through to the end of ME3.  

 

[Ramirez Wolfen]

Siansonea II wrote...

This thread is still around? Has to be one of the most successful troll threads to date, so kudos to the OP I guess.

Accusing me of being a troll (which I'm not)? You almost got another GTFO pic. But seriously go somewhere else.

[Ryzaki]

Mazder wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I have to make a worst playthrough import one of these days. I want to see if anything actally changes. 

Well if Shepard dies in ME2 there is no ME3.

Nah I meant the one where you only have Thane and Morinth at the end. Thane's gonna die soon and Morinth is a psycho vamp chick who would eat you if she could. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 23 mars 2011 - 08:06 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

I wouldn't expect all aliens to have the same orientation variety (or lack thereof) as humans. (Do Asari remind anyone else of the non-gendered people from Winter, in the Left Hand of Darkness? No? Just me? Ok.)

We've seen this in the Asari: most of the ones we've encountered so far seem to be bi. And the Salarians, being an egg laying race, don't seem to have strong sexual attractions either way. If you had to impose a human orientation on him, you'd probably call Mordin asexual. If you listen in on the bachelor party, it becomes clear that most Salarians aren't particularly interested in sex, with the exception being the Asari's nigh-universal appeal.

Before playing, I kind of assumed Thane would be the bi one this game, since he was the "promotional face alien" this time around, and last game's promotional face alien was bi. Since we don't know anything about the Drell, their orientations or orientation ratios could be anything.

I agree that having humans act in accordance to established realistic human behavioral norms is reasonable. But when you introduce an entirely new species for whom we have very little backstory, all cultural assumptions are off the table.

[Mazder]

Ryzaki wrote...
Nah I meant the one where you only have Thane and Morinth at the end. Thane's gonna die soon and Morinth is a psycho vamp chick who would eat you if she could. 

Ah.
Well i chose morinth on my FemShep playthrough so we'll see what happens to her.

[Lee337]

Ryzaki wrote...

Mazder wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I have to make a worst playthrough import one of these days. I want to see if anything actally changes. 

Well if Shepard dies in ME2 there is no ME3.

Nah I meant the one where you only have Thane and Morinth at the end. Thane's gonna die soon and Morinth is a psycho vamp chick who would eat you if she could. 

I had Zaheed and Morinth, andthen proceeded to kill Zaheed on his loyalty mission. Now  I only have Morinth!

[Ryzaki]

Lee337 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Mazder wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I have to make a worst playthrough import one of these days. I want to see if anything actally changes. 

Well if Shepard dies in ME2 there is no ME3.

Nah I meant the one where you only have Thane and Morinth at the end. Thane's gonna die soon and Morinth is a psycho vamp chick who would eat you if she could. 

I had Zaheed and Morinth, andthen proceeded to kill Zaheed on his loyalty mission. Now  I only have Morinth!

How'd you manage that? I thought the game wouldn't let you kill Zaeed if it was only him and one other companion. 

[Ramirez Wolfen]

mopotter wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Mopotter
Actually Jack has stated in ME2 that she is bisexual.

 

That would make certainly make it consistent then.  They should have gone ahead and done it.  Sad that they must have thought it was too much work or who knows what they thought.  

I agree. Jack being bi would have been awesome.

[Lee337]

Ryzaki wrote...

Lee337 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Mazder wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I have to make a worst playthrough import one of these days. I want to see if anything actally changes. 

Well if Shepard dies in ME2 there is no ME3.

Nah I meant the one where you only have Thane and Morinth at the end. Thane's gonna die soon and Morinth is a psycho vamp chick who would eat you if she could. 

I had Zaheed and Morinth, andthen proceeded to kill Zaheed on his loyalty mission. Now  I only have Morinth!

How'd you manage that? I thought the game wouldn't let you kill Zaeed if it was only him and one other companion. 

Ahh you're right, I have Legion too! Don't know how I missed that considering you can't play missions with less than 2 squaddies!

[Ramirez Wolfen]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Jack never said she was bisexual in ME 2. She said that she slept with a couple. Later on, she tells FemShep that she's not a girl's girl.

Just like a bisexual person can have a sexual history that includes only one sex, a straight woman can have a sexual history that includes both.

^This
Some people around here need to go through the dialog trees again.

Hope you're not talking about me, 'cause I didn't say that.

[catabuca]

UsagiVindaloo wrote...

MajesticJazz wrote...

See, that is where you fail. Please tell me where it was confirmed/implied that Ashley wasn't BI in ME1? Please tell me where it was confirmed/implied that Kaiden wasn't BI in ME1? Please tell me where it was confirmed/implied that Miranda/Jack/Thane/Jacob wasn't BI in ME2?

You talk about "changing" a character's sexual preference, when it was never really detailed what their sexual preference was. For all we know, Miranda could be BI, but she wasn't BI in ME2.....but that doesn't mean she can't be BI in ME3 because it was NEVER confirmed that she only was into men and wasn't into women. So your case about changing a character's sexual preference is just as a complete fail. Try again.

Also about it being the end of Shepard's story, thus meaning that he/she cannot find a new romance is just pure weakness. A cloud in the sky has more strength then your statement. Bioware has not confirmed that there will be new romances in Mass Effect 3, but since KOTOR (And I guess Neverwinter Knights/BG/BG2....I never played those games) there has ALWAYS been a romance option. So yeah, ME3 ends the Shepard story arch, but it is also developed as a stand alone game. So if I never played ME1 or ME2, I can still jump into ME3 and experience to same great Bioware story telling....including romances.

Again yet another reply from you and you are STILL avoiding the question as to why you don't support say....Miranda or any other ME2 romance being BI in ME3 but yet you support Tali being a romance option in ME2 when she wasn't in ME1. It isn't too late for Thane to go BI in ME3 just like it wasn't too late for Tali to be romanceable in ME2. And please do not say "Thane is straight in ME1" because while he might not have been a male on male romance option, that doesn't confirm anything about his sexual preference, same with the rest of the characters

I agree with all this, but to put it in another form -

Just because someone likes the opposite sex does not mean they are DEFINITELY straight.
Just because someone likes the same sex does not mean they are DEFINITELY gay.
Just because someone does not rush to romance Shepard does not mean they are DEFINITELY gay, bi, or straight.
Just because someone does rush to romance Shepard does not mean they are DEFINITELY gay, bi, or straight.

I know I'm quoting from way back when in this thread, but these two posts are so exceedingly stellar I needed to say how much I agree with them. 

This is an argument I've had time and time again (over in the Fight for the Love thread, for example). A person expressing an interest in one person at a particular point in their life does not mean they may not express an interest in another person at another point in their life, regardless of gender. To state Shepard, or any of the LIs are absolutely and definitively of one orientation or another when there have never been any lines in the game that state it as such is futile. If any of the LIs say 'Hey Shepard, I think you're great but I just don't swing that way' then we can safely assume a declaration about their orientation has been made. You might argue that about Jack (I read the 'girls club remark in another way, however - in that Jack doesn't want to be gal-pals, I never read anything about sexuality into that remark and was utterly shocked when I realised some did), but beyond that everything is open to interpretation. To make concrete remarks about something that is merely alluded to or not mentioned at all is ridiculous.