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[Seena]

MistySun wrote...

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  Stanley Woo wrote...

Let's keep the sociopolitical discussion away from discussion of Isabela, please. that way lies madness, and far too much Moderator attention to this thread.

I see and hear enough politics as it is without seeing it in a forum.

So without further ado, Isabela is  a well defined character and in my opinion looks great, feels great....ooops i mean fights great.
Plus she and Merrill get along well together...actually i almost believe Merrill is in love with Isabela as i am.   

[*]No one "forces" anyone to read what is on a forum.
[*]What is UP with these damn bulllets?

[Seena]

DocDoomII wrote...

Nadya2 wrote...

i find everything about isabela perfectly done, including her outfit.   

I find her face quite ugly.

This is just ridiculous and illustrates that you come here just to be negative.

There's no way you can say she's "ugly".  Not that attractive to you? Fine. Plain? fine. 

But "ugly"?

Give me a break

[Seena]

CaptainIsabela wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Let's keep the sociopolitical discussion away from discussion of Isabela, please. that way lies madness, and far too much Moderator attention to this thread.

Yay - Stanley Woo on MY thread!!!! How exciting - I remember you back in the old days, closing down my threads all the time Love ya Stanley x

But back on topic - NOT AS MUCH AS I LOVE ISABELA 

Yes, he seems to do that quite zealously. I think he has control issues.

ps I may get banned for that but it's ok.  I find the "police state" atmosphere here quite oppressive,

Modifié par Seena, 14 avril 2011 - 12:34 .

[randName]

Seena wrote...

CaptainIsabela wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Let's keep the sociopolitical discussion away from discussion of Isabela, please. that way lies madness, and far too much Moderator attention to this thread.

Yay - Stanley Woo on MY thread!!!! How exciting - I remember you back in the old days, closing down my threads all the time Love ya Stanley x

But back on topic - NOT AS MUCH AS I LOVE ISABELA 

Yes, he seems to do that quite zealously. I think he has control issues.

ps I may get banned for that but it's ok.  I find the "police state" atmosphere here quite oppressive,

I can understand the want to keep real world drama away from the forum, even when the game brings it up.

And I can respect it and try to avoid to, so no big deal - besides there are other forums that are less restrictive, or more - depending on what you want.

[Seena]

randName wrote...

Seena wrote...

CaptainIsabela wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Let's keep the sociopolitical discussion away from discussion of Isabela, please. that way lies madness, and far too much Moderator attention to this thread.

Yay - Stanley Woo on MY thread!!!! How exciting - I remember you back in the old days, closing down my threads all the time Love ya Stanley x

But back on topic - NOT AS MUCH AS I LOVE ISABELA 

Yes, he seems to do that quite zealously. I think he has control issues.

ps I may get banned for that but it's ok.  I find the "police state" atmosphere here quite oppressive,

I can understand the want to keep real world drama away from the forum, even when the game brings it up.

And I can respect it and try to avoid to, so no big deal - besides there are other forums that are less restrictive, or more - depending on what you want.

A good game, imo, addresses contemporary socio-political  issues in an alternative setting.

The devs clearly went out of their way to create a character that challenged "traditional" views of femininity and chastity (clearly a FEMINIST viewpoint) - yet this can't be discussed on the forum in a polite way without flaming?

Give me a ****ing break.

Modifié par Seena, 14 avril 2011 - 12:45 .

[mesmerizedish]

When the Merrill thread heats up, I've been known to drop a screenshot to cool things down. Think I'll do the same here Some stuff I'm working on for my mod:

Sailor's Remorse





Wavedancer's Tunic

[Seena]

And how is discussing feminism ANY different than they many "gay rights" discussion that have been allowed to happen?

It isn't. It's a blatant double standard,

[Argetlam350]

Ah yes the lovely Isebela. I found her to be a great character, not to serious, only when she had to be and alwayshad some interesting conversations with your other companions.

[randName]

Seena wrote...

randName wrote...

Seena wrote...

CaptainIsabela wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Let's keep the sociopolitical discussion away from discussion of Isabela, please. that way lies madness, and far too much Moderator attention to this thread.

Yay - Stanley Woo on MY thread!!!! How exciting - I remember you back in the old days, closing down my threads all the time Love ya Stanley x

But back on topic - NOT AS MUCH AS I LOVE ISABELA 

Yes, he seems to do that quite zealously. I think he has control issues.

ps I may get banned for that but it's ok.  I find the "police state" atmosphere here quite oppressive,

I can understand the want to keep real world drama away from the forum, even when the game brings it up.

And I can respect it and try to avoid to, so no big deal - besides there are other forums that are less restrictive, or more - depending on what you want.

A good game, imo, addresses contemporary socio-political  issues in an alternative setting.

The devs clearly went out of their way to create a character that challenged "traditional" views of femininity and chastity (clearly a FEMINIST viewpoint) - yet this can't be discussed on the forum in a polite way without flaming?

Give me a ****ing break.

Normally they can't no - feminism is not abortion or religion, but is also one of those things that does add lots of fuel to the flames.

Personally I find it sad, as I would love to have the dialogue, but I can understand that the mods don't want it, and might not even be able to control such a discussion to the extent they require.

And the forums are not the game, so even if the game would try really hard to comment on social-political issues that doesn't mean that they would want it on the forums.

& Personally I don't call myself a feminist - but I'm supportive of it, and hold the same views in many regards (just don't need more -isms than I already carry around) - so this isn't me trying to fight against it.

& I do find the article posted, that lead to this, with the extra comment, to be a good view of how I see Isabela - and I'm as positive as the commentator (saying that the outfit and the fanservice it brings ) still makes her less than ideal, but then I'd agree with the article that one of the points is rather that its refreshing when strong women are allowed to be less, and thus in a sense more than ideal.

That said there are good forums that are more open than this for such debates - even if most of them tend to become circlejerks.  

[randName]

Seena wrote...

And how is discussing feminism ANY different than they many "gay rights" discussion that have been allowed to happen?

It isn't. It's a blatant double standard,

Honestly I was surprised they allowed it to such an extent, even if they often did close the threads after some pages of terrible posting.


esp. by me ~

Modifié par randName, 14 avril 2011 - 02:13 .

[Chaos Lord Malek]

In my opinion she is best character in Dragon Age 2 (except for Flemeth, and Varric is close after her).

I personally hope they will keep her in next game as well(and possibly continue Hawke story as well) - that "talk" before final battle with her, even though short is very nice.


EDIT: BTW - i know that Bioware got troubles with creating long hairs (Flemeth is the only one who really got any longer hairs) , so even what they did with Isabela is HUGE jump forward(not tails or shortcuts), and also her clothing is something completely new. I hope this improvement will be kept into future as well.

Modifié par Chaos Lord Malek, 14 avril 2011 - 02:18 .

[randName]

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...
EDIT: BTW - i know that Bioware got troubles with creating long hairs (Flemeth is the only one who really got any longer hairs) , so even what they did with Isabela is HUGE jump forward(not tails or shortcuts), and also her clothing is something completely new. I hope this improvement will be kept into future as well.

I'm playing the Witcher currently and while most NPCs suffer the same issue at BioWare games - its possible to do good hair with the engies BioWare uses - so must be lack of something else that causes the problem, since the Witcher uses Aurora (modified) and Geralt got decent and dynamic long hair.

[Warheadz]

I didn't really like Isabela. She just felt so... shallow. It felt to me like this picture completely sums up her character.



I am aware that some people say she had depth, but I didn't see it even though I romanced her.

Modifié par Warheadz, 14 avril 2011 - 02:36 .

[macrocarl]

I think she's a perfect match for the wise crackin' Hawke. It made total sense. More so I felt than my good guy Warden's romance with Morrigan. He was too into helping people and Morrigan would flip out. I thought Morrigan was very very complex and kind of amazing as a romancable character but leaving her at camp grumbling wasn't ideal. With Isabella you could bring her along and she's pretty funny and a good butt kicker in missions.

[GiggleLooper]

Ok guys, you do realise that you are trying justify your weird infatuation with two pixelated characters by dissecting their physical and intellectual qualities. You're not going to get with these fictional beings. I suggest applying these quantitive assessment skills to real women that are way out of your leagues.

[Veracruz]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

When the Merrill thread heats up, I've been known to drop a screenshot to cool things down. Think I'll do the same here Some stuff I'm working on for my mod:

Sailor's Remorse

Wavedancer's Tunic

Good to see that some people do nice work instead of silly "Blood Mage"-related tweaks.

[Dark83]

CaptainIsabela wrote...

Please..talk about the illustrious beauty's amazing assests or something

She's got a really good looking pair, but they're not all that useful.

...I always end up replacing them with the rusty one from the shop.

[Tirigon]

Nadya2 wrote...

she is one of the few good looking female characters in the whole game in my opinion, and i think you are just letting your dislike for her blind your judgement if you think she is ugly .  iether that or you need glasses badly. 

Or, (s)he might have different tastes than you. I know I do.
Isabella is not the ugliest woman in a videogame, that´s true, but I wouldn´t call her goodlooking either.

[Tirigon]

Seena wrote...

The devs clearly went out of their way to create a character that challenged "traditional" views of femininity and chastity (clearly a FEMINIST viewpoint) - yet this can't be discussed on the forum in a polite way without flaming?

Give me a ****ing break.

Eh, the game wasn´t feminist at all. It showed women who are aware of their strengths, like they should, but it never demanded a women quota in institutions like the templars, nor did it any other feminist stuff.

And the Qunari are in fact quite the opposite even. Remember Sten:
- "You are not a woman. You´re a warrior"
- "I am both"
- "that is impossible. One of these can´t be true"