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[VanDraegon]

I am kinda bothered by the fact that after proclaiming undying love for my Warden she apparently changed her mind and ran off back to Orlais. Crazy redhead....

[MadRex]

For those of you who played Leliana's Song, she also survived a stabbing. She is just one tough rogue. She has that Joan of Arc type purpose. Maker favors her. I thought having her in DA2 was fantastic. After she was introduced I admit I got chills up the spine.

[TobiTobsen]

Porenferser wrote...

I killed Leliana in DA1, whats the point of importing my save when the continuity isn't secured?

And this is just one of the examples.

So Bioware, if you decide everything at your own anyway, don't create an import option, because then player won't have wrong hopes for the continuity<_<

The Arishok asked: "Why should Leliana die?" . You could not give a satisfying answer. Because of that your reality ceased to exist.

Bioware is the Qun. They demand, you obey.

[The Angry One]

Pft. The Qun demands I be a farmer, a shopkeeper or a priest.
I kill plants, I'd never run a shop properly (I'd steal all the cash) and I hate giving sermons. So bah!

[TobiTobsen]

The Angry One wrote...

Pft. The Qun demands I be a farmer, a shopkeeper or a priest.
I kill plants, I'd never run a shop properly (I'd steal all the cash) and I hate giving sermons. So bah!

The only thing the Bioqun demanded of you was to buy the game. How you experience and rate it is up to you. Therefore you served the Bioqun!

[Icy Magebane]

MadRex wrote...

For those of you who played Leliana's Song, she also survived a stabbing. She is just one tough rogue. She has that Joan of Arc type purpose. Maker favors her. I thought having her in DA2 was fantastic. After she was introduced I admit I got chills up the spine.

I'm going to say two things and then I'm done with this topic.
1)  Only an idiot would leave a rogue of Leliana's caliber for dead without checking to make sure that she's dead, even if that means incinerating the corpse.  The Warden wouldn't have made that mistake.
2)  The Maker is not necessarily real, and only in the minds of people who love Leliana does it make sense that she's somehow "favored."  The Maker didn't seem to care very much for the Grand Cleric or King Cailan...

Bioware retconned the story.  Just like with Anders.  People really need to stop justifying that because they are personally invested in the character.

Anyway... this is the only thing I feel like responding to.  This topic is annoying and I don't think I should read anything else here...

[cynicalsaint1]

Because BioWare can't account for every single possible set of story branches and still end up with a coherent story.

[mesmerizedish]

The Maker's watching out for her.

[Malanek]

cynicalsaint1 wrote...

Because BioWare can't account for every single possible set of story branches and still end up with a coherent story.

Yeah, and if it was important enough for the story I could live with a change in continuity. But this was not important. They could have quite easily slapped in a different character in her place if she was dead. In fact that would have been a good opportunity to show what a difference your actions in origins make.

[upsettingshorts]

It might be important later?

[Porenferser]

TobiTobsen wrote...

Porenferser wrote...

I killed Leliana in DA1, whats the point of importing my save when the continuity isn't secured?

And this is just one of the examples.

So Bioware, if you decide everything at your own anyway, don't create an import option, because then player won't have wrong hopes for the continuity<_<

The Arishok asked: "Why should Leliana die?" ..

Because she is annoying.

Does that satisfy the great Arishok?:innocent:

[mesmerizedish]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

It might be important later?

I dunno, based on her appearances in DAII, I'd say it's pretty important now...

[Malanek]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

It might be important later?

That's what I'm afraid of. They could have quite easily had a completely new character if she does have an important role. Heck even Cassandra (who I was half expecting) at that point could have been written in.

Modifié par Malanek999, 22 mars 2011 - 10:03 .

[mesmerizedish]

Malanek999 wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

It might be important later?

That's what I'm afraid of. They could have quite easily had a completely new character if she does have an important role. Heck even Cassandra (who I was half expecting) at that point could have been written in.

At the same time, Leliana was a very popular character. The devs clearly think that her character warrants some deeper exploration. I'm fine with this. I only wish that you weren't able to kill her at the Sacred Ashes. To the people who did, well... tough, I guess. Most of the choices we made actually aren't being ignored. This is one that is.

Is one character who "should" be dead really that big a deal?

[maegi46]

They could have replaced her with any woman and they should have replaced Anders with a completely new CRAZY terrorist mage

[Beerfish]

You think you are the only one that can 'load from a previous save'?

[rwscissors702]

She wasn't really dead, that's why you couldn't loot her corpse. That's going to make for an uncomfortable reunion.

[ejoslin]

Wulfram wrote...

I'd guess Leliana has an important enough role in the future of the series that Bioware needed her to always be alive.

Many of the other discontinuities are bugs, however. Zevran, for example, should stay dead.

I'm not sure (aside from being a Zevran fan).  If you read Zevran's DA2 codex, what he's doing can have far reaching implications in Thedas -- much further reaching that I actually thought they'd give him.  An entire nation may be destroyed because of what he's doing.

I really don't mind so much who they leave alive and dead.  My guess is it will blend well into future stories.

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 mars 2011 - 10:27 .

[Porenferser]

rwscissors702 wrote...

She wasn't really dead, that's why you couldn't loot her corpse. That's going to make for an uncomfortable reunion.

If she wants revenge, let her come, that'll be her second death^_^

[Nimpe]

Maybe Wynne revived her?

[Porenferser]

Nimpe wrote...

Maybe Wynne revived her?

Wynne is dead too in my save....

[Alexein]

Maybe people would rage less if bioware simply added the line for sister Nightingale

"Yes, i knew the hero of ferelden... that backstabbing gravedefiling son of ***** that knifed me and left me for dead.... The same one that i've named this blade after for when i will get my sweet justice by ramming all 8 inches of it straight into the hero's heart... The same hero that used me night after night and then left me for that man**** Zevran.... Oh hi Isabela!"

Modifié par Alexein, 22 mars 2011 - 10:37 .

[mesmerizedish]

Porenferser wrote...

Nimpe wrote...

Maybe Wynne revived her?

Wynne is dead too in my save....

And yet she appears in Amaranthine regardless. Guess she's gonna be important too.

[Porenferser]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Porenferser wrote...

Nimpe wrote...

Maybe Wynne revived her?

Wynne is dead too in my save....

And yet she appears in Amaranthine regardless.

No.
At least not in my Game.

Her death was treated correct.

Maybe its an early bug that has been fixed already.

[Freestorm Skinn]

ejoslin wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'd guess Leliana has an important enough role in the future of the series that Bioware needed her to always be alive.

Many of the other discontinuities are bugs, however. Zevran, for example, should stay dead.

I'm not sure (aside from being a Zevran fan).  If you read Zevran's DA2 codex, what he's doing can have far reaching implications in Thedas -- much further reaching that I actually thought they'd give him.  An entire nation may be destroyed because of what he's doing.

I really don't mind so much who they leave alive and dead.  My guess is it will blend well into future stories.

It feels like they're setting Zevran up to become the new leader of the Crows, which would make him a major world player in a sequel.