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[Xilizhra]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Duh. Hawke is just that irrelevant to the story.

So... exactly like DAO?

Yep. Except things would have gone badly without The Warden(see Darkspawn DLC). While Hawke changes nothing about DA2.

There's six different ready-made people who'd fit the role perfectly. Seven if Amell and Surana are different people.

[Ryzaki]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
This is fact. Balthier is always the best leading man.

Balthier would've owned both Meredth and Orsino early. Sadly Hawke lacks Balthier's epicness. 

They've perfected the Stupidity Ray Cannon! It uses their stupidity as a power source! How they managed to perfect something so complicated though will forever remain a mystery....

Sadly. 

If only Hawke hadn't listend to his mother. See childish disobediance can save lives. 

[TEWR]

Ryzaki wrote...


Balthier would've owned both Meredth and Orsino early. Sadly Hawke lacks Balthier's epicness. 

Even a random NPC from Rabanastre would've owned Meredith and kept Orsino from going into Harvestino mode.

Sadly. 

If only Hawke hadn't listend to his mother. See childish disobediance can save lives. 

Leandra is the true villain!

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 28 mai 2011 - 10:45 .

[Ryzaki]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Even a random NPC from Rabanastre would've owned Meredith and kept Orsino from going into Harvestion mode.

Even Vaan? 

Leandra is the true villain!

 It all makes sense now! 

[Xilizhra]

I know. Anyone can be a Warden, not everyone can be a competent one, however(see Alistair). And there are thousands of people who can take Hawke's place in the story.

Hawke is just as skilled as the Warden, if not moreso.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Xilizhra wrote...
There's six different ready-made people who'd fit the role perfectly. Seven if Amell and Surana are different people.

All six of them were pro-active and their involvement was more than lazyiness and stumbling upon satan's crap idol.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Xilizhra wrote...

I know. Anyone can be a Warden, not everyone can be a competent one, however(see Alistair). And there are thousands of people who can take Hawke's place in the story.

Hawke is just as skilled as the Warden, if not moreso.

The Warden led armies and played king broker (twice).
There's more to skill than killing.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 28 mai 2011 - 10:49 .

[TEWR]

Ryzaki wrote...

Even Vaan? 

Even Vaan.

 It all makes sense now! 

She got what was coming to her. Hawke must've known and purposely not investigated! He set her up!



Wait... I'm afraid this will get too confusing.

[TEWR]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Fenris has somewhat ruined Balthier's swagger! Damn emo-Cloud elf.

I didn't think he did. The voice fit Fenris.


Although I wonder what would happen if someone superimposed Balthier's face on Fenris....

[Xilizhra]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I know. Anyone can be a Warden, not everyone can be a competent one, however(see Alistair). And there are thousands of people who can take Hawke's place in the story.

Hawke is just as skilled as the Warden, if not moreso.

The Warden led armies and played king broker (twice).
There's more to skill than killing.

Yes, and that's just weird. Where did those skills come from? Especially if they were a mage or city elf?

[Ryzaki]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Even Vaan.

Damn. Hawke's pathetic. 

She got what was coming to her. Hawke must've known and purposely not investigated! He set her up!
Wait... I'm afraid this will get too confusing.

It will. I'm already confused. 

[Ryzaki]

Xilizhra wrote...
Yes, and that's just weird. Where did those skills come from? Especially if they were a mage or city elf?

Some people are just natural leaders. And some people learn by simply looking around before speaking up. (Like the Warden has plenty of opporunity to do.) 

As for the mage...isn't there a lot of politicing in the circle itself? It's not too different than the general world is it? 

CE. Well a CE might take interest in politics (or the mother might've taught them that in addition to fighting). CE mother knew people from Orlais land of political intrigue didn't she? 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 mai 2011 - 10:56 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Xilizhra wrote...
Yes, and that's just weird. Where did those skills come from? Especially if they were a mage or city elf?

Some people are natural leaders. They just need to be thrown in the fire and they shine like that. 

[Xilizhra]

It's unfortunate. Origins' story is better put together and the protagonist is somewhat more interesting... and yet I can't play it again because the combat is utter torture, the companions aren't nearly as likable to me as 2's, and I still feel weirdly disconnected from the protagonist because of the whole silent thing.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Yes, and that's just weird. Where did those skills come from? Especially if they were a mage or city elf?

You.

Don't deny it. You know you're just that awesome.

I am not afraid to admit that myself.

[LobselVith8]

Xilizhra wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The Warden led armies and played king broker (twice).
There's more to skill than killing.

Yes, and that's just weird. Where did those skills come from? Especially if they were a mage or city elf?

The Warden was the best of his (or her) generation: an intelligent, proactive, and competent protagonist. For my Surana Warden, I was told that he was Irving's "star pupil" (as the abomination Uldred noted). The Warden is a tale of one of the last surviving Wardens dealing with trials and tribulations to ultimately face "the true fulcrum of evil." Hawke, in contrast, is the story of one man's failure.

[Xilizhra]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

 I still feel weirdly disconnected from the protagonist because of the whole silent thing.

Haven't played that many WRPGs, have you?

No. ME and DA.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I am not afraid to admit that myself.

See? I always knew poor self-esteem was none of your weaknesses.

I have weaknesses?