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[Ryzaki]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
If it makes you feel any better I have a team of scientists and engineers researching how to reverse the process.


All we need is a human-turned-pony to test on. It's all safe I promise!

 

Hm...

Better find one quick then. 

[TEWR]

Some Geth wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
I'm a WMP (Weapon of Mass Ponyfication) proximity device. Just poking near the spot turns more and more random people into ponies. That's why I just sit in my bunker now and send my doppelganger out to buy food. Unless I go outside to hang out with friends.

*glares* 

Stupid ponies are YOUR fault. <_<

If it makes you feel any better I have a team of scientists and engineers researching how to reverse the process.


All we need is a human-turned-pony to test on. It's all safe I promise!

Well I am not a human-turned-pony but I like the show, do you want your team to work on me?

Hmmm.... they say they won't turn down the offer! They say this could lead to revolutionary.... um..... breakthroughs!

[TEWR]

dp.


stands for damn ponies. They're on to us!!

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 29 mai 2011 - 12:22 .

[Clover Rider]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
I'm a WMP (Weapon of Mass Ponyfication) proximity device. Just poking near the spot turns more and more random people into ponies. That's why I just sit in my bunker now and send my doppelganger out to buy food. Unless I go outside to hang out with friends.

*glares* 

Stupid ponies are YOUR fault. <_<

If it makes you feel any better I have a team of scientists and engineers researching how to reverse the process.


All we need is a human-turned-pony to test on. It's all safe I promise!

Well I am not a human-turned-pony but I like the show, do you want your team to work on me?

Hmmm.... they say they won't turn down the offer! They say this could lead to revolutionary.... um..... breakthroughs!

As long as I can still like the show I don't care.

[TEWR]

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

[/s]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...



If it makes you feel any better I have a team of scientists and engineers researching how to reverse the process.


All we need is a human-turned-pony to test on. It's all safe I promise!

 

BLOOD MAGE! I KNEEEW EEET! Off with his head!

you can try, but my response shall be this!

[KnightofPhoenix]

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...



Then I don't recomend looking at my pics in RL (actually I do, I am handsome ). Cause I have an even better goatee.

Don't encourage me. I might just flirt with you. [s]AND I'LL ONLY BREAK YOUR HEART

Practically everyone on this site flirted with me at one point or another. Or I flirted wih them.
So whenever you're ready

[KnightofPhoenix]

Queen-Of-Stuff wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...



Practically everyone on this site flirted with me at one point or another. Or I flirted wih them.
So whenever you're ready

... Wow, you have a way of making things awkward. Err. You have very pretty eyes? And I would totally throw you under a bus if it served my own purposes. I swear to some god somewhere.

....why are you starting with the sexy talk already?
That's like pushing all my right buttons.

[TEWR]

I'm gonna head off to bed soon everyone. Try to get back on topic without me constantly derailing the thread, lest the various Eplers/Priestlys/Woos/whoever else come and lock this beautiful thread. They're working for the ponies....

[dragonflight288]

....Meredith is nuts.

[JustinS1985]

I 100% support annulling Kirkwall. Why can't I just go make everyone explode by lightly tapping them with my staff. (and pulling out the murderknife for named characters.)

[KLGChaos]

I think overall, Kirkwall itself was the problem, not just the Templars or Mages. After all, nearly every mage seemed to be a blood mage, while the Templars played their part by imprisoning all of them. Just compare Kirkwall's Circle to the one in Ferelden. In Ferelden, once mages went through the Harrowing and became enchanters and the like, they were given some measure of freedom-- able to go out into the world on quests, just like Wynne. True, they had the whole phylactery thing hanging over their heads, but at least they were allowed some kind of life.

In Kirkwall, it seems they weren't even allowed to go past the Gallows. Even the First Enchanted seemed little more than a prisoner and you never saw mages outside of that area, unless they were apostates. Which means, they basically were just prisoners who were allowed a little exercise time in the courtyard.

So, frankly, the Templars were just as bad a the blood mages, so I couldn't support them, even without a crazy, rune-influenced leader.

Modifié par KLGChaos, 29 mai 2011 - 11:32 .

[LovelyLittleLeprechauns]

To me both sides were pretty equal, it is just a matter about how you look at it. I chose sides based on what my character believed. On my first playthrough I tried to be as neutral as possible and only chose a side when I absolutely had to. I played as a f.mage who I thought would support the mages in the end, but the real deal breaker for me was when Anders blew up the Chantry, my character just couldn't stand for that. Truthfully, both the mages and the templars are pretty messed up.

[Rifneno]

I never understood the "I was pro-mage, but the Chantrybomb made me switch sides" logic. Seen it quite a few times now. The basic gist of it is usually "I was pro-mage because you shouldn't punish everyone for the crimes of a few. But then something bad happened, so I decided to kill everyone got the crimes of one who wasn't a part of them." ... Huh? O_o

But yeah, Kirkwall itself is probably inherently doomed to be full of chaos and evil. Thin veil and all that. It effects mages the worst, but it does seem to have an effect on everyone, as they make a point of Kirkwall having an unusually bloody and corrupt history. So the logical solution would be to abandon the place until we can nuke it from orbit. ... Unfortunately, that will never happen, and here's why: it's got a stranglehold on a major sea transit route. Whoever is in control of Kirkwall has the ability to control a large chunk of the trade going on in Thedas. There will always, always be someone willing to settle on the mouth of hell for that power. In conclusion, FU Tevinter.

[GavrielKay]

Rifneno wrote...

There will always, always be someone willing to settle on the mouth of hell for that power. In conclusion, FU Tevinter.

True enough.

I do hope that if they rebuild the circles somehow, they don't choose to keep mages in the Gallows any more.  The Chantry would have to be a special kind of stupid to house mages there again.

There's a lovely post in another thread examining Anders and the effect that merging with Justice has had on him.  I won't repeat it, but I will say that I agree with that poster that it is impossible to think of Anders as just an ordinary apostate, or even as a crazy apostate.  He is totally changed by merging with Justice.  Attacking ordinary mages in the Gallows because you're mad at Anders makes no sense.  Unless you hoped the circle mages would escape and assassinate Anders before he could complete his plans, they have no ability to stop what he did.  Even Hawke, his companion and possilby more can't stop him.

[Xilizhra]

Rifneno wrote...

I never understood the "I was pro-mage, but the Chantrybomb made me switch sides" logic. Seen it quite a few times now. The basic gist of it is usually "I was pro-mage because you shouldn't punish everyone for the crimes of a few. But then something bad happened, so I decided to kill everyone got the crimes of one who wasn't a part of them." ... Huh? O_o

But yeah, Kirkwall itself is probably inherently doomed to be full of chaos and evil. Thin veil and all that. It effects mages the worst, but it does seem to have an effect on everyone, as they make a point of Kirkwall having an unusually bloody and corrupt history. So the logical solution would be to abandon the place until we can nuke it from orbit. ... Unfortunately, that will never happen, and here's why: it's got a stranglehold on a major sea transit route. Whoever is in control of Kirkwall has the ability to control a large chunk of the trade going on in Thedas. There will always, always be someone willing to settle on the mouth of hell for that power. In conclusion, FU Tevinter.

And... Sebastian pledges to raze the city, doesn't he?

Saving Anders is looking better and better.

[LobselVith8]

Rifneno wrote...

I never understood the "I was pro-mage, but the Chantrybomb made me switch sides" logic.

It's because the appropriate response to disagreeing with one man blowing up a building is to commit genocide against an entire population of his people. </sarcasm>

Rifneno wrote...

Seen it quite a few times now. The basic gist of it is usually "I was pro-mage because you shouldn't punish everyone for the crimes of a few. But then something bad happened, so I decided to kill everyone got the crimes of one who wasn't a part of them." ... Huh? O_o

It's the same excuse people give about murdering the mages of the Kirkwall Circle because of what Quentin did. That never made any sense to me, either.

Rifneno wrote...

But yeah, Kirkwall itself is probably inherently doomed to be full of chaos and evil. Thin veil and all that. It effects mages the worst, but it does seem to have an effect on everyone, as they make a point of Kirkwall having an unusually bloody and corrupt history. So the logical solution would be to abandon the place until we can nuke it from orbit. ... Unfortunately, that will never happen, and here's why: it's got a stranglehold on a major sea transit route. Whoever is in control of Kirkwall has the ability to control a large chunk of the trade going on in Thedas. There will always, always be someone willing to settle on the mouth of hell for that power. In conclusion, FU Tevinter.

Seems like Amaranthine can eclipse them in that regard, and I find it illuminating that a mage governed arling can succeed economically while a templar run city-state is in chaos.

[Dave of Canada]

I'm always pro-Templar (shock, surprise, awe) but from what I understand, even pro-mages could side with Meredith if they believe it'll be better for mages rights long term. Isn't that the jist of Anders rivalry dialogue if he sides with Meredith?

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 30 mai 2011 - 07:26 .

[IanPolaris]

Dave of Canada wrote...

I'm always pro-Templar (shock, surprise, awe) but from what I understand, even pro-mages could side with Meredith if they believe it'll be better for mages rights long term. Isn't that the jist of Anders rivalry dialogue if he sides with Meredith?

Anders will never side with the Templars even on a Rivalmance.  I consider this a feature not a bug.

-Polaris

[Dave of Canada]

IanPolaris wrote...

Anders will never side with the Templars even on a Rivalmance.  I consider this a feature not a bug.

-Polaris

This "feature" is being removed then.

[IanPolaris]

Dave of Canada wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Anders will never side with the Templars even on a Rivalmance.  I consider this a feature not a bug.

-Polaris

This "feature" is being removed then.

It hasn't been yet, so I don't regard what you say as official.  Talk to me after it's happened. I think having Anders side with the Templars under ANY circumstance would only ruin the one thing that actually makes sense in Act 3.

-Polaris

[CulturalGeekGirl]

IanPolaris wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Anders will never side with the Templars even on a Rivalmance.  I consider this a feature not a bug.

-Polaris

This "feature" is being removed then.

It hasn't been yet, so I don't regard what you say as official.  Talk to me after it's happened. I think having Anders side with the Templars under ANY circumstance would only ruin the one thing that actually makes sense in Act 3.
-Polaris

Well, the uncovered dialogue for that basically has Anders saying "Whelp, I guess you're right, I'm a monster and everything I believe is wrong. Gonna go kill myself after this." Essentially, you've convinced him that Vengeance IS a demon now, Anders is a monster, and that all of his "justice-related" feelings are wrong and should be suppressed.

Which honestly makes sense. You've basically driven the poor boy insane in this case, and death is the only way out.

It only really works if he's 100% rival, though (and this is coming from a pretty intractable mage supporter). I'll only buy it if he actually makes good on his threat, and we find out that he killed himself between DA2 and DA3, if you made him go all Templar-y.

Modifié par CulturalGeekGirl, 30 mai 2011 - 08:40 .