Deztyn wrote...
I don't think anyone denies that it's caused suffering. The main question is how much suffering has it prevented? And is completely destroying the existing system worthwhile if there's no guarantee that something worse isn't going to take it's place?
I'm unconvinced it's prevented *any* suffering. Most of the abominations and maleficar encountered are because of the Chantry's heavy-handed rules. Very few of them want "real ultimate power!" like Huon, most of them just want basic freedoms.
Heck, in universe there doesn't seem to be a plan by anyone for anything to take the place of the Circles. At the very least since the writers have designed the game around making both choices valid, it's niave to think that the mage side will be proven completely right in the short term.
There's no plan by anyone that we've seen as Hawke or the Warden. I'm sure lots of mages have spent years thinking about how to make a better system. King Alistair probably has half a dozen great plans sent to him that are currently collecting dust because the Chantry wouldn't let him use them. And I'm not saying they'll proven completely right in the short term. But that works both ways too, wouldn't you also then have to say the people saying this will lead to another Tevinter would be wrong too?
Eh, semantics, it's still stuff going missing from the shop that can't be accounted for. It's not nice either way.
It's not semantics. There's a huge difference between someone committing a crime and someone who got bested by a thief. Especially since some thieves are absolutely incredible at their craft. I'm reminded of a quote from the father on Frasier, "Don't feel bad. I was a cop for 30 years, and they still fake me out occasionally. These guys are professionals, they know what to do."
Well if he was also possessed and could never ever put away his gun, which got stronger for his being possessed I know I wouldn't want him running around free. That's the point the pro-magers continually seem to miss. Whatever the cause, there are abominations and demons running around all over the Circle... and you're helping them escape into the larger population.
Is saving fifty genuinely innocent mages worth it if the result is one Connor or Amelia style abomination escaping with them?
That response wasn't about the morality of the Annulment in general, it was about many people using the reasoning "if the Circle wasn't full of evil, then why are there so many demons there when I go to annul it?" That's ridiculous.
As to the question, I find it extremely unlikely that such a scenario would occur. For one, very few abominations are interested in running away from a fight. Most of them just attack anything in sight and the few that do strike up a conversation don't flee from aggression. So it would be a very odd case IMO if such an abomination were to try to flee... and then of course, it'd have to be successful in doing so. Then it'd have to be one of the rare ones with a huge body count.
This is actually the argument of most of the pro-templar side. We don't get to choose whether the annulment is going to happen, we just get to choose how to minimize the damage.
Short term damage. Long term, how would the damage would be lower by the continued reign of the people that pushed it that far? Unless you're metagaming, you'd have to assume that Meredith would be left to continue ruling with an iron fist and all the damage we've seen would just start anew with the next Circle.
Meredith's authority here has nothing to do with filling the Viscount seat, she has the power as Knight-Commander. Anders is an Apostate and Maleficar, if she wants to execute him she has the right to do so, if she wants to deputize someone else to make the decision for her, she can probably do that too.
If she wants to execute him, yes. But I've never seen a system where someone in power can just casually give a civilian (Hawke holds no government or Chantry position) the power to act as judge jury and executioner. I'd have to see some evidence that the Chantry's laws work that way. Even I don't think the Chantry is that retarded. And I think they're pretty retarded.
PureMethodActor wrote...
and based the countless numbers of blood mages and malificarum I see in the game, I'm guessing that the Templars are the best bet for keeping order.
Not once you factor in that you're seeing the countless blood mages and maleficar
because of the templars.
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Anyway, yea I remember a lot about FFXII's plot, characters, and everything. The story was really well done. As soon as I watched the tiny Fenris clip with voice acting many months ago I was really happy that Balthier's VA was doing the voice. I mean, he just has an awesome voice (though at first I kept imagining Balthier there and it took me a while to see that the voice did fit Fenris).
I felt the opposite. That broody douche ruined Balthier for me.
IanPolaris wrote...
That's all well and good as long as you are willing to ignore that you are complicit and abetting an open act of Genocide AND doing so against a group of people for a crime they didn't commit.
Well there's your problem! You're thinking of the mages as people! Obviously they aren't people, otherwise why would we have all these people using the justification that "I'm thinking about the people of Kirkwall"?
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