Deztyn wrote...
Amelia, Olivia and Connor are all examples of what can happen when the rules aren't followed.
And it's inevitable that tons of people won't follow the rules when they're so strict and heavy-handed. If loosing the rules causes a 10% increase in Circle mages going abomination and a 200% increase in people following the rules because doing so won't mean they or their child being handed to a brutal dictator, then things are far better on the whole.
Quentin is an example of a Maleficar motivated by things other than ultimate power.
Idunna and Tarohne are examples of mages that are motivated by the desire for ultimate power.
Quentin was one of the exceptions, I agree with that. Idunna and Tarohne we don't know enough about either way to make a judgment. Idunna's motives aren't really explained from what I can remember and Tarohne was long gone by the time Hawke meets her. That's a demon wearing a brand new Edgar suit.
Zathrian and Velenna are examples of mages who have personal motivations and are able to cause massive destruction only because they are mages.
Wilhem and Avernus are examples of mages who screw up with the very best of intentions.
Some of the Mage Underground quests in Origins involved dealing with Apostate maleficar.
Velenna probably could've caused just as much death if she was a highly skilled assassin like Zevran. Zathrian is another exception, true.
Wilhelm was kind of a douche, but I don't know that he was corrupt. Avernus was only bad in that he experimented on unwilling victims. The demon stuff wasn't that bad because he did it in a very controlled environment. Hundreds of years later the demons are *still* trapped. The risk of his summonings hurting a civilian were very low. Just the other Wardens, who weren't going to make it out alive no matter what, and the soldiers of an evil tyrant.
That depends. If another working system replaces the current one, there's no reason to think Tevinter is an outcome. But that assumes that the mundane majority will go along with it. If the Chantry, the governments and the common people are against mage freedom than a bloody war followed by magocracy or the adaption of even stricter methods of mage control are likely.
The response wasn't about in-game knowledge and lore, it was in response your comment that it's naive to think supporting the mages will be proven completely right in the short term because they wrote it so both choices are valid.
Is the tranquil being whipped expressly because something was stolen by someone else or as punishment because something s/he was responsible for went missing?
I don't know the exact quote, sorry. I haven't seen it in-game personally. It was brought up by... I forget whom. But their other scenario I did see in-game (standing at a certain position in the Gallows prologue before getting into the city lets you hear someone being beaten).
The only abominations we encounter in game that don't have huge body counts are the ones that are dealt with immediately. The intelligence of the abomination depends on what kind of demon is possessing it.
Indeed, but demons don't just make others the victim of their psychological element, they are victim to it themselves. Rage demons are constantly enraged, sloth demons are too lazy to do much, ect. So it follows that the most intelligent and dangerous form of demon, pride, would think too highly of itself to tuck tail and run from a conflict if a puny mortal was aggressive towards it.
Siding with the mages you have no reasonable expectation of winning. It's only metagaming that let's you know that you'll survive, that a few mages will successfully escape, and that you'll be able to kill Meredith. You're not trying to beat the Templars here, you know you're fighting a losing battle you're just trying to kick up enough dust to let a few extra mages escape.
I don't know about that. Hawke has accomplished a whole lot. S/he beat the military leader of the entire Qunari in a duel after mowing down his giant warriors like they were random street thugs. S/he got further into the Deep Roads than even the Grey Wardens thought was even possible. Everybody's free to RP their Hawke as they see fit, but I don't really see the logic in any Hawke thinking Meredith is some neigh unbeatable foe.
It's no different than Hawke participating in the Right of Annulment. Or Greigor allowing the Warden to do the same.
Griegor was taking advantage of a legal loophole in the fact that the wardens aren't bound by the same laws he is. Meredith "allowing" Hawke to participate... I don't know, that's probably a no-no too. I'm almost positive it's a no-no for her to tell someone totally outside of the Chantry "you help execute the RoA or I'll kill you too," which she does if you tell her you're not taking sides.