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[ZenBaller]

Hello everyone,

I'm a ME series fanatic as most of you I assume. Even though in heart I'm still a hardcore RPgamer, I embraced Bioware's innovations with KOTOR, ME and Dragon Age 1. I'm talking about the gradual de-RPG-ation, the gradual decrease of the classic RPG characteristics and the turn to a more cinematic-action gameplay.

I'm sorry in advance if this has been talked about before. What I'd like to discuss is that  this process has become too much for me after Dragon Age 2. It's a good game but also an oversimplified RPG which well.. is not an RPG anymore. The label doesn't matter anyway, since there are still many people who liked it although most of my friends and internet communities around here are realtively negative towards the direction that DA2 took.

What do you think of ME3 taking that direction? Would you like to see it becoming less RP and more click n slash action fast food game like DA2? 

Thanks

[petipas1414]

You don't want to go down this road man

And for the sake of contribution... I'd wait for more info about ME3 before we can speculate the direction it is taking lol

Modifié par petipas1414, 23 mars 2011 - 12:41 .

[ZenBaller]

It's more of what you people like more than a speculation. What would you prefer?

[shep82]

Not this again.

[Whatever42]

DA2 went down the mass effect rabbit hole, not the other way around. Mass Effect 2 is already an action-RPG, with a reduced skill tree, a locker based inventory system, and reduced exploration.

There are a huge number of reasons why ME2 did better than DA2 with the critics and why a much, much smaller number of fans flipped out. They range from those elements in ME1 sucked anyway to ME2 was a much more polished game than DA2.

[ArcanistLibram]

I wish people would learn what an RPG is before they start talking about RPG elements.

[Rivercurse]

*mumbles incoherently, then leaves thread*

[Pwener2313]

Yes, and it and will doom us all.

Modifié par Pwener2313, 23 mars 2011 - 01:06 .

[mjkjets]

I honestly just hope Bioware doesn't rush ME3 so it isn't the buggy mess DA2 is right now.

[ZenBaller]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

DA2 went down the mass effect rabbit hole, not the other way around. Mass Effect 2 is already an action-RPG, with a reduced skill tree, a locker based inventory system, and reduced exploration.

There are a huge number of reasons why ME2 did better than DA2 with the critics and why a much, much smaller number of fans flipped out. They range from those elements in ME1 sucked anyway to ME2 was a much more polished game than DA2.

Yeap ME started it but DA2 overdid the simplification and lost a significant part of the fans.

But I ask again, what do you people prefer? This is not a debate, it's a discussion.  No need to take sides and  troll (not talking about you Whatever)

Modifié par ZenBaller, 23 mars 2011 - 01:12 .

[Harmless Crunch]

No I don't think so. Christina Norman (Lead gameplay designer on ME1,2 and 3) said at one point that one of the things they where working on was more complex enemies and deeper RPG features. (Sorry I can't find the site where I read it)

You also need to remember that ME is more popular than DA2 so as such EA are probably putting more resources into ME3 so it will hopefully have less bugs. And finally ME3 has had a much longer development cycle

Modifié par Harmless Crunch, 23 mars 2011 - 01:33 .

[Chromie]

ZenBaller wrote...

Hello everyone,

I'm a ME series fanatic as most of you I assume. Even though in heart I'm still a hardcore RPgamer, I embraced Bioware's innovations with KOTOR, ME and Dragon Age 1. I'm talking about the gradual de-RPG-ation, the gradual decrease of the classic RPG characteristics and the turn to a more cinematic-action gameplay.

I'm sorry in advance if this has been talked about before. What I'd like to discuss is that  this process has become too much for me after Dragon Age 2. It's a good game but also an oversimplified RPG which well.. is not an RPG anymore. The label doesn't matter anyway, since there are still many people who liked it although most of my friends and internet communities around here are realtively negative towards the direction that DA2 took.

What do you think of ME3 taking that direction? Would you like to see it becoming less RP and more click n slash action fast food game like DA2? 

Thanks

You do realize Dragon Age went the way of Mass Effect and loss some RPG features. You have it the other way around

[Tazzmission]

dont both da and me have diffrent teams at bioware? because if they do than i dont see why people need to worry

Modifié par Tazzmission, 23 mars 2011 - 01:39 .

[Il Divo]

Hopefully we get something more complicated than Mass Effect 2 but not as mind-numbingly idiotic as Mass Effect 1.

[KainrycKarr]

I like DA2. I'm beginning to think I'm not supposed to. It still feels like an RPG to me. Maybe a bit lite on the gear and skill trees, but the basic design still feels very RPG-like.

Perhaps I'm missing something, and/or I'm retarded?

[KainrycKarr]

Il Divo wrote...

Hopefully we get something more complicated than Mass Effect 2 but not as mind-numbingly idiotic as Mass Effect 1.

Dunno if I'd call it mind-numdingly idiotic, but a medium between ME2 and ME1 would be nice.

[thrasher64]

The difference is DAO was a classic RPG with new technology and better story telling. Mass Effect has never been a classic RPG. Thats why the changes didnt work in DA2 but similiar things worked in ME2.

[Il Divo]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Dunno if I'd call it mind-numdingly idiotic, but a medium between ME2 and ME1 would be nice.

Perhaps that was the wrong phrase. 'Pain in the ass' might work better. The problem of Mass Effect is that the game doesn't really know what it wants to be with its awkward combination of stat/tps elements. In that sense, I found it to be idiotic.

[Pwener2313]

mjkjets wrote...

I honestly just hope Bioware doesn't rush ME3 so it isn't the buggy mess DA2 is right now.

It is just amazing how many people don't know that ME3 has been in development since December 2009. The game has been fully finished for months now. Devs have said that they have done complete playthroughs of the game. Just incredible. People need to keep up.

[royceclemens]

Will it be fun? Because if it's fun, then I don't give a sweet rat's ass. I don't need a label to enjoy something.

[MassEffect762]

A compelling story with heavy consequences is all I'm asking for, the rest will probably be void of immersion.(just a game, i.e. ME2 is just a game)

[slimgrin]

Sweet Jebus I hope not.

[Izhalezan]

Co-op Dragon Age and Mass Effect please.

[Tazzmission]

Il Divo wrote...

Hopefully we get something more complicated than Mass Effect 2 but not as mind-numbingly idiotic as Mass Effect 1.

what drugs are you on? how is me1 idiotic? is it because it didnt fit your call of duty obsession?

[Tazzmission]

Pwener2313 wrote...

mjkjets wrote...

I honestly just hope Bioware doesn't rush ME3 so it isn't the buggy mess DA2 is right now.

It is just amazing how many people don't know that ME3 has been in development since December 2009. The game has been fully finished for months now. Devs have said that they have done complete playthroughs of the game. Just incredible. People need to keep up.

and dont forget just like movies theres always a chance a star may need to redo some lines. that could be the case for the whole trisha helfer edi fiasco