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[BlameBot]

Opinions are like socks. Everyone has them. Sometimes, they even have two.

[aries1001]

Please do remember that the vgchartz only shows the retail sales (I, think?) - not the digital sales that today are responsible for I think between 1/3 and ½ of the total sales - for all versions probably.

As for how DA2 is selling, well in my local Blockbuster (that also sells movies for some reason), it is now listed at the 2nd or 3rd best selling game this week.

[Lulia]

I don't believe that anyone who REALLY enjoyed DA:O would not buy DA2 regardless of the reviews.

If people aren't buying it, it is because they weren't convinced with Bioware games anyway.

DA3 not happening isn't even an option.

They'll make more from releasing it than they would save by not making it.

[Jitter]

 Amazon took 20 off the price ... they are selling now

[Tommy6860]

Turnip Root wrote...

I hope Bioware can recover from this. Mass Effect 2 sold poorly too so I fear this may mean EA shutting Bioware down.

ME2 sold poorly?? ME2 was a huge success, if going by RPG sales averages. It has sold nearly 2.5million copies, and that is just on the 360. I know the PS3 didn't do well at all, but you didn't specify. There is no data on the PC version, but I heard it sold nearly 1m on that platform.

[Edge2177]

Don't forget most PC sales now a days are on Steam, anyway.

I wish for once we got sales figures from Steam

http://www.rockpaper...-pc-game-sales/
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Modifié par Edge2177, 23 mars 2011 - 09:20 .

[BlameBot]

Don't buy a bad game in hope for a good sequel. It sets bad precedents for video game designers, who will make a great game, then slovenly throw together a second game. Video game sequels should add and enhance, not detract and alienate.

Tommy6860 wrote...

Turnip Root wrote...

I hope Bioware can recover from this. Mass Effect 2 sold poorly too so I fear this may mean EA shutting Bioware down.

ME2
sold poorly?? ME2 was a huge success, if going by RPG sales averages.
It has sold nearly 2.5million copies, and that is just on the 360. I
know the PS3 didn't do well at all, but you didn't specify. There is no
data on the PC version, but I heard it sold nearly 1m on that platform.

It may have had something to do with that year-plus release date for the PS3. Really bad move on Biowares' part.

Modifié par BlameBot, 23 mars 2011 - 09:21 .

[Hunter-Wolf]

From top of the list to 5th on the UK Best Selling chart (PC) = poor sales .. really !!! ... don't make me laugh please ... seen too many fanatic DA:O fans and they can be funny sometimes with all their doom and gloom (ooh it's the end of Bioware .. ooh .. Bioware has betrayed us *cue dramatic music*.. blah .. blah .. blah) .. poor sales wouldn't even be on the list to begin with .. and that's just PC and just in the UK .. as if the rest of the world and other platforms don't exist.

Sigh ... the game is doing just fine ... so did ME2 regardless of all the fan whining surrounding it .. some gamers these days need to learn that the world doesn't revolve around their wishes and dreams .. everything evolves and changes .. and these changes don't please everyone .... GET USED TO IT ... oh ... and a general advice ... don't pre-order something blindly then cry when you don't like it .. you only have yourself to blame.

[Temaperacl]

Ashr4m wrote...

Lulia wrote...

I don't believe that anyone who REALLY enjoyed DA:O would not buy DA2 regardless of the reviews.

What is that supposed to mean? I enjoyed DAO but just because i did so doesnt mean that i will buy anything that has "Dragon Age" in its name. I played the demo my "yay" turned to "meh" i read lots of user and professional reviews and user-reviews combined with watching some "let's play' and my conclusion was that i dont like the game.

[...]

This is pretty close to my view.  I really enjoyed DA:O - But the lead up and demo made me cautious, and the reviews tended to reinforce what I had suspected - the parts of DA:O I disliked were magnified and the parts I liked were reduced.  

Now, the fact that I enjoyed DA:O did influence my view - without that I would have just ignored DA2. As it was, I decided to wait until it was cheap and give it a try then - I've been suprised with games before.

As things turned out, I ended up purchasing it earlier this week because I was able to get it for cheap - I had a discount that made it run me $9.99 at Amazon when they had the reduced price. But with all the information I had, there was no way I was going to pay more than $15 for it regardless of it being a follow up to DA:O.

[Temaperacl]

Edge2177 wrote...
Don't forget most PC sales now a days are on Steam, anyway.

Steam being the largest share of 48% does not in any way make it "most PC sales".  It could mean that Steam is the largest seller of PC games, but it doesn't even necessarily mean that.

[truestatic]

Demand drops rapidly in the second week.  It did with DA:O too.  This is perfectly normal.

http://gamrreview.vg...on-age-origins/
http://gamrreview.vg...35/mass-effect/
http://gamrreview.vg.../mass-effect-2/

As you can see, ME2 sales dropped even more rapidly than the ME and DAO sales, probably because the high amount of people who were buying it immediately upon release after positive experiences with the first title.

Modifié par truestatic, 23 mars 2011 - 09:47 .

[ms_sunlight]

moilami wrote...
Character dump or it didn't happen.

It was on my old PC so I can't prove it any more!  Aargh!

[djackson75]

Honestly if I was a Bioware suit, after reading these boards, I'd make Dragon Age into an FPS, just to get away from being associated with most of the whining, complaining people on this board. Anyone remember Heretic or Hexen?

Modifié par djackson75, 23 mars 2011 - 10:41 .

[avado]

djackson75 wrote...

Troll troll trolly troll troll trolling troll.

That word gets thrown around on this message board like candy, and is almost always used improperly. To the people on this board, it boils down to this:

If you don't agree with my opinion, you are a troll.

Someone clean up this message board, for the love of god.

LMAO!  I have been accused of being a troll when all i did was join a board and express an intelligent opinion that the board didnt like (wasnt this board).  Still have no idea what the word means, and I think, no one else does either!  How can I say this?  This topic seems a whole bit "trollish" by definition!  Does that make us ALL trolls? 

Long live DA5!

[Dlokir]

Nightnight wrote...

After DA2, I don't really care
anymore. If I want more quality DA adventure, I will go back to Origins.
If I want more hack n' slash rpg, I will wait for Diablo 3.

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Nightnight wrote...

I think DA2 is a good value at around 30-40 bucks. I would recommend the game to my friends at this price range.

Lol I hope for you your "friends" don't read that.

DA2 is rushed and has flaws, but DAO had flaws too. And DA2 improved many points like quite more choice in classes, and changed direction for some points iritating DAO blind fans but not that bad points, and they rushed plus screw up some points. But overall it's a very fun game despited rushed points and flaws.

But no that's not good enough for fans and many contributed blindly to the anti hype and ignoring the good points for only focusing on bad one. And they'll get what they deserve, the closure of the series. Sure ME fans rejoice because they naively think both games are in competiton but the truth is that it will only weaken Bioware in context of EA. And I don't care ME bore me and I'll never buy any.

Thanks kids for your sheep behaviors and naive beleiving in the perfect world.

[abaris]

Lulia wrote...

I don't believe that anyone who REALLY enjoyed DA:O would not buy DA2 regardless of the reviews.

False asumption: I replayed DAO probably 15 times and will do some more playthroughs in the future.

But after playing the demo buying DAII was out of the question for me. Even the game basics were enough to totally turn me off. That I don't like the combat system with exploding corpses and ludicrous moves would be the understatment of the year.

I had my fears when playing Awakening, but would still have bought DAII if the stripped down Awakening experience would have been all the did to the game.

[Grovermancer]

The sales of DA2 had pretty much nothing to do with DA2.


It had everything to do with DAO.



Let's wait and see how the DLC for DA2 sells.

[Bathead]

avado wrote...

djackson75 wrote...

Troll troll trolly troll troll trolling troll.

That word gets thrown around on this message board like candy, and is almost always used improperly. To the people on this board, it boils down to this:

If you don't agree with my opinion, you are a troll.

Someone clean up this message board, for the love of god.

LMAO!  I have been accused of being a troll when all i did was join a board and express an intelligent opinion that the board didnt like (wasnt this board).  Still have no idea what the word means, and I think, no one else does either!  How can I say this?  This topic seems a whole bit "trollish" by definition!  Does that make us ALL trolls? 

Long live DA5!

 "Troll" has indeed lost it's original meaning. It used to mean someone who deliberately posted inflammatory messages on a forum in order to get people riled up and arguing . It seems like these days it's used  more or less as "You have an opinion  that's different from mine, so you're a troll. You suck."

[Onyx Jaguar]

Well it is Shogun 2, I mean that **** is awesome

[BlameBot]

Temaperacl wrote...

Edge2177 wrote...
Don't forget most PC sales now a days are on Steam, anyway.

Steam being the largest share of 48% does not in any way make it "most PC sales".  It could mean that Steam is the largest seller of PC games, but it doesn't even necessarily mean that.

You could say that most PC games are bought digitally these days, and be correct. I'm sure the other digital distributors can corner a good 3% of the market easily. If not more.

[Crash_7]

AgenTBC wrote...

The ignorance in this thread is astounding. Mass Effect 2 sold massive numbers. DA2 sold more units in its first week than DAO did. How one can assert that DAO was a smashing success while DA2 is bombing when the only numbers we have so far show DA2 selling more units than DAO is beyond me. Maybe DAO will sell more overall because DA2 will be frontloaded. But that's pure speculation at this point.

Just because something is: "beyond me" it does not alter the validity/invalidity of a statement.  DA 2's early sales are being driven by pre-orders.  The truth will be known in a few months.  But from my experience word of mouth works both ways, and the word on the street is that DA 2 is average and not an adequate follow up to DA:O. 

[AkiKishi]

Hunter-Wolf wrote...

From top of the list to 5th on the UK Best Selling chart (PC) = poor sales .. really !!! ... don't make me laugh please ... seen too many fanatic DA:O fans and they can be funny sometimes with all their doom and gloom (ooh it's the end of Bioware .. ooh .. Bioware has betrayed us *cue dramatic music*.. blah .. blah .. blah) .. poor sales wouldn't even be on the list to begin with .. and that's just PC and just in the UK .. as if the rest of the world and other platforms don't exist.

Sigh ... the game is doing just fine ... so did ME2 regardless of all the fan whining surrounding it .. some gamers these days need to learn that the world doesn't revolve around their wishes and dreams .. everything evolves and changes .. and these changes don't please everyone .... GET USED TO IT ... oh ... and a general advice ... don't pre-order something blindly then cry when you don't like it .. you only have yourself to blame.

Poor sales is a relative term.

If Pony Adventures sold 1 million that would be considered good.
If CoD sold a million that would be considered disgraceful.

Most AAA games will break a million easily. Just on advertising and incentivised rewiews. Across 3 platforms that's almost a given. However the goal of Bioware was to make DA2 with mass market appeal. This has failed.
Not only has it failed, it's also turned most of the core fan base against them to one degree or another. The fallout of this won't be seen until DA3, if there is a DA3.

[OriginalTibs]

avado wrote...

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LMAO!  I have been accused of being a troll when all i did was join a board and express an intelligent opinion that the board didnt like (wasnt this board).  Still have no idea what the word means, and I think, no one else does either!..

There are still a few of us around who remember 'troll' was something a person did, instead of what they were.

Trolling was a fishing analogy, applied to posts that sought to lure an emotional response from the message boards instead of reasoned responses.

They aren't interested in your point of view, they just want to control the conversation.

[Nerdage]

More thorough testing might be nice. Not sure what the Mass Effect team are doing that the Dragon Age team aren't but both MEs have shipped pretty polished, but DAO, DAA and DA2 have all shipped with some almost game-breaking bugs.