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#26
FrozenDawn

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look at some of the nightmare rogue builds, you can do some insane dmg to many enemies in a short time.
it's also cool to stealth and teleport around the battlefield (backstab, vendetta, back-to-back)
Might be the most satisfying class to play if u master it I guess.

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MarkSparks

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Can someone post a location to see some builds? I'm having a heck of a time getting some synergy between my folks. I did CCCs much better as a warrior since I controlled stagger effects. Currently I'm level 10 :
Dual weap - Backstab+Perforate and unforgiving chain.
Sabo - miasmic(non upgraded, you'll see how I respec'd below)
Sub - Evade+upgrade, Steath, Ling shroud, ambush, sublety.
Shadow (recently respec'd from assassin) pinpoint, inconspicuous, decoy.

I'm having aveline tank with a heavy weapon and shield and Anders in the creation and arcane line (to help with his survivability). I dislike panacea cause with that and buffs, he has no mana.

I don't want to do archery, but would rather stay in (and out of) the fight.

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I enjoyed my Rogue, but I had a big problem with force. It's frustrating having an enemy archer casually swat my Rogue clear across the room (nightmare). Also, I didn't take Assassin which is apparently a faux pas of monumental proportions. I honestly can't remember why I thought Shadow would be a better option. Critical damage increase, maybe?

There's something to be said for teleporting to the enemy backline and dispatching the casters in the blink of an eye, though, and then teleporting back or dropping into stealth. Ah, Vendetta.

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Loc'n'lol

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MarkSparks wrote...

Can someone post a location to see some builds? I'm having a heck of a time getting some synergy between my folks. I did CCCs much better as a warrior since I controlled stagger effects. Currently I'm level 10 :
Dual weap - Backstab+Perforate and unforgiving chain.
Sabo - miasmic(non upgraded, you'll see how I respec'd below)
Sub - Evade+upgrade, Steath, Ling shroud, ambush, sublety.
Shadow (recently respec'd from assassin) pinpoint, inconspicuous, decoy.

I'm having aveline tank with a heavy weapon and shield and Anders in the creation and arcane line (to help with his survivability). I dislike panacea cause with that and buffs, he has no mana.

I don't want to do archery, but would rather stay in (and out of) the fight.


You can setup stagger combos easily with Aveline and end them with explosive strike (maximize the unforgiving chain first, the cooldown is long) for big damage. Vendetta from the duelist tree also trggers from staggered for even more damage. The best is of course assassinate but here the problem is applying brittle, which is inconsistent.
Looks like you'll have a hard time applying disoriented with your current build.

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MarkSparks

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In my search for good build ideas (thank you _Loc_N_lol_ I'm going to Emo-elf to help with stagger CCCs) I found a site that had a good builder, but I didn't see any builds. Here's my rogue currently. I have 2 maker sighs and an itchy trigger finger :

http://biowarefans.c...rzYojX1YmocaVrw

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I got a lot more Staggers with Fenris (w/ Sunder and Pommel Strike) than with Aveline (shield bash + pommel strike).

Every crit has a chance to STAGGER and he frequently STAGGERS mobs when he gets a crit with whirlwind or Scythe. Pommel Strike works great for STAGGERING single enemies in a pinch.

Tremor didn't seem to stagger many enemies on Fenris or Aveline.

And keeping both Anders and Merril in your party gives you 2x the chance to BRITTLE bosses (if they both have upgraded Petrify and Upgraded Winter's Grasp)

Modifié par naughty99, 24 mars 2011 - 02:55 .


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naughty99 wrote...

I got a lot more Staggers with Fenris (w/ Sunder and Pommel Strike) than with Aveline (shield bash + pommel strike).

Every crit has a chance to STAGGER and he frequently STAGGERS mobs when he gets a crit with whirlwind or Scythe. Pommel Strike works great for STAGGERING single enemies in a pinch.

Tremor didn't seem to stagger many enemies on Fenris or Aveline.

And keeping both Anders and Merril in your party gives you 2x the chance to BRITTLE bosses (if they both have upgraded Petrify and Upgraded Winter's Grasp)


That's why you use Claymore on Aveline...
Although I'm not sure how you can take advantage of Staggers besides Claymore on Nightmare outside of Elites/Bosses since Shield Bash will usually hit the Rogue too.

Modifié par Graunt, 24 mars 2011 - 09:08 .


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Per Bialaska

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If you want single target damage, Rogue is the way to go. In my Rogue playthrough I was able to one-shot the super-dangerous mages, leaving the rest of my team to take care of the minions. And when going on minions, the basic attacks were actually cutting deeply into them. Of all the characters I have played, the rogue had by far the easiest fight with the Artiskok, Mark of Death, a single assassinate, critical (since your critical chance is like 100+% around then), and he was screaming out in pain. After that it didn't take many seconds before he was completely gone. I'm not even sure I even took any damage in this fight because it was really over before it even started.