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[p95h]

I've been able to win vs. Arishok with mage (easy), and rogue melee (a bit harder, but not too bad), but I fear what will happen when I try to fight him as an archer, since he will always close distance and slap the snot out. As an archer, I don't have much besides miasma and pinning shot to keep him at bay.

Does anyone have some ideas? (I do use the assassinate tree, so If I can get enough shots off while he's pinned, it will help).

[x-president]

Just wait until he charges.  That always gives you enough time to fire off some shots.  I don't think you'll have any problems.

[Slappy5848]

If you have The Black Emporium, the dog may distract him... Just saying.

[p95h]

Thanks for the ideas. Dog is quite useful, *if* he can gain the aggro.

[HajinWarrior]

Do what first post said run around as he charges.

[naughty99]

I beat him playing a DW/Archer rogue on Nightmare, I had Pinning Shot and Shattering Shot, but you really have to conserve all your stamina for firing off Assassinate each time the cooldown expires.

use pause to maneuver yourself around one of the pillars in a huge circle as he's chasing you. Every once in a while he stops to swing, or he makes his roadrunner move and that's when you can hit him with your bow.

if you are feeling bold, the fastest way to beat him is if you can let Arishok almost catch you, then move again when he starts swinging, because then you can fire off about 3 more bow shots before he starts moving again.

Save your assassinate for when he starts moving his legs like a roadrunner cartoon.

Step to the side and fire off a ranged Assassinate into his back, plus 2 more bow shots.

Repeat 100s of times, constantly pausing and micromanaging every step.

It is a waste of Stamina to use Mark of Death. I would hit him for 1200 dmg with mark of Death + Assassinate. With Assassinate only I would still do 900-1000 dmg. Pinning Shot would only do about 300 dmg - waste of Stamina. Regular shots would do 16 + whatever extra elemental dmg you have, although sometimes when he was moving like a roadrunner regular shots would do up to 140 or so dmg.

the Mabari was almost zero help. Only once during the entire lengthy process did Arishok even acknowledge the Mabari, allowing me to get one or two extra bow shots in.

Modifié par naughty99, 23 mars 2011 - 03:10 .

[Waltzingbear]

He has a very big swing so you need to run past him either from the left or the right until he start swinging. When you're out of his reach you'd have time for a shot or two.

Something like this but without all the pausing. Use assassinate on the move.

Modifié par Waltzingbear, 23 mars 2011 - 03:22 .

[IN1]

>Something like this but without all the pausing.

Yes. Don't you dare pause the game. It's not legit and you'll get no respect from Waltzingbear if you do. Stand your ground and fight like a man, son! :-P

[Waltzingbear]

Pausing is great, but the way this guy does it- it's so sluggish that even my granny would get bored and get back to more exciting things like knitting or solitaire.

For the maker he doesn't even use the keyboard for movement!

Modifié par Waltzingbear, 23 mars 2011 - 03:49 .

[aznricepuff]

Run circles around the pillars. Seriously. The Arishok's pathing apparently can't handle pillars so if you essentially just run a figure 8 pattern around the 2 pillars in the room every time you run around the pillar the Arishok lags behind far enough to get a shot off with the bow. It's a nice alternative to either waiting until he uses his charge or letting him almost catch up with you. The former takes too long and the latter runs the risk of him actually hitting you or him using the ability where he impales you with his sword then throws you to the ground (as far as I can tell, you can't dodge it unlike his other attacks).

Other than that, basically spam assassinate on recharge.

[IN1]

I never use a keyboard for movement in DA2. In my opinion, it's as profane as playing Devil May Cry with a mouse

Seriously, though, I don't think this game qualifies as a good real-time action adventure. As a good tactical party-oriented RPG (a la BG/IWD) -- most definitely yes. Still, it's great people that prefer to play it real-time style are actually able to pull it off now. That's a huge gameplay design achievement, IMHO.

Modifié par IN1, 23 mars 2011 - 03:56 .

[zeypher]

or use a combustion grenade on him and watch him get stunned for a good while. i swear i killed the arishok in hard 1 on 1 in like 20 seconds

[sevenplusone]

Yep, just use Decoy and laugh as you take (literally)0 damage the entire fight.

[Trapslick]

stealth, dog w/ the threat transfering skill(?), assassinate, mark of death if distracted well enough to get ur skills in, gernades, pretty much anything that will put space between you 2.

[FrozenDawn]

Can u plz tell me how the **** you killed the arishok in melee? must be on normal difficulty?
on nightmare u die from 3 hits and the first knocks u down most times.

Archer is easy, just shoot and run around until he charges then shoot him in the back and keep using assassinate when the cooldown finishes.
if u stealth and u got the dog he will start hitting the dog and u can shoot him for a while.

It takes quite the long time on nightmare, but if u keep running from him unteil he chrages it's almost easy.

[naughty99]

Yes it takes a hell of a long time but seems only possible using your bow. When I used stealth, he ignored it and kept chasing me and attacking me anyways. The Mabari was almost useless.

I would be highly surprised if anyone can beat him on Nightmare with a Rogue using daggers instead of their bow.

Modifié par naughty99, 23 mars 2011 - 09:49 .

[Tomark]

naughty99 wrote...


I would be highly surprised if anyone can beat him on Nightmare with a Rogue using daggers instead of their bow.

Decoy still helps.

Took a long time, but it was do-able.

[IN1]

Tomark wrote...

naughty99 wrote...


I would be highly surprised if anyone can beat him on Nightmare with a Rogue using daggers instead of their bow.

Decoy still helps.

Took a long time, but it was do-able.

Cannot even say it took a long time. Most regular fights involving elites/commanders take longer solo.

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Modifié par IN1, 24 mars 2011 - 06:54 .

[carrawayz]

FrozenDawn wrote...

Can u plz tell me how the **** you killed the arishok in melee? must be on normal difficulty?
on nightmare u die from 3 hits and the first knocks u down most times.

Archer is easy, just shoot and run around until he charges then shoot him in the back and keep using assassinate when the cooldown finishes.
if u stealth and u got the dog he will start hitting the dog and u can shoot him for a while.

It takes quite the long time on nightmare, but if u keep running from him unteil he chrages it's almost easy.

On Nightmare, with a DW rogue or 2H warrior, you have enough time after the charge to perform one or two specials with little risk to yourself.  As a DW rogue, this typically means using MoD at the beginning of the charge animation then comboing Backstab into Assassinate or Twin Fangs (or either of the latter two abilities alone, depending on positioning).  Decoy is of obvious utility but not by any means a prerequisite for victory.  As a 2H warrior, Cleave into Scythe into Whirlwind or Mighty Blow works well.  A 2H warrior will end up relying heavily on Second Wind/Bolster.  It is also possible to fight Arishok with regular melee autoattacks, but it requires circle-strafing around Arishok's normals.  The same juking during/after Arishok's charge applies.

As a DW rogue this can be an unforgiving fight due to lower HP on your Hawke, meaning a single mistake can force a reload, but it's not anywhere near as bad as some of the assassin/lieutenant waves in various areas.

Modifié par carrawayz, 24 mars 2011 - 08:27 .

[john181818]

My rouge Hawke couldn't deal with him with daggers so she did the job with her bow on hard level. She kept running circles, always had the dog out when available, and shot after his charges or if he was far enough behind to get a shot off. She hard the Rock Coating potion and the revival potion, but revival wasn't needed. I used about 6 Replenishment potions and a couple of stamina potions and kept running.

[Nasabe]

Subterfuge: Fully upgraded Chameleon's Breath

Shadow: Decoy + Disorienting criticals + fully upgraded Inconspicuous and Predator

Assassin: Mark of Death(Mark of Doom) and optionally Devious Harm


Mark Arishok,
pop the Decoy,
get behind(flank) Arishok,
Obscure yourself, reduce threat generation to 0% with Inconspiciuous and keep critting him.

Disorienting criticals is the key here. It reduces the enemies defense by 50% which helps a lot against bosses, so you hit more.. and since every flanking attack that connects is a crit.. Well I'm sure you can bring the rest with speed upgrades, dog etc. Pretty fun build actually.

Should be fairly easy.

Modifié par Nasabe, 16 avril 2011 - 05:55 .