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[GenericPlayer2]

There is no evidence in any of the games that the Maker exists or that anything the Chantry says is true.

So Flemeth might be an undocumented ancient dragon for all we know.

[Unrefined-Nemesis]

 Facts that we have about Flemeth so far
1) Flemeth knows a high degree of Magic2) Ability to transform into a High Dragon - Possibility due to Shapeshifting (Explains Why Morrigan's First Specialization is Shapeshifter)3) Able to overcome death itself4) Creator of the Dark Ritual or knew the dark ritual from somewhere5) Contracted a spirit of the fade
6) Connections to the dalish in a manner (Dalish owes her a debt for something)
7) Appears in major event's - 1) The 5th Blight and 2) The Rise of the Champion of Kirkwall
8) Transcended from Humanity - Is neither Human or Abomination
9) Possess slight connection to Darkspawn - the Kocari wilds were savaged by darkspawn after ostagar, her hut and home still stands after a presumed couple of months of the warden's adventure without attracting darkspawn attention at all ? A spell she says to blind the darkspawn to her location.
10) Anti-Blight - She hates the ArchDemon but she is fine with the normal darkspawn

Facts not known:
1) Main motive - She seems to be fabricating the events of both Dragon age series
2) Origin of Flemeth - The are various versions of it so which one is true maybe none maybe some
3) Her true age - Not know at all


It is possible that Flemeth is an was human long time ago when magic was openly used, she became further powerful by contracting a spirit/demon (we never got a proper answer further more it could be the maker since the make seems to be a powerful spirit/demon who brainwashed people to create the cult known as the CHANTRY) after her husband's death. Time passed many grew knowing of Flemeth and created a cult around her where she trained many powerful magister and created a body transfer spell to move to one body after another. 

Around the first blight, the first archdemon appeared - possibilty of flemeth's failure to go to the so called golden city or at least overthrow her contracted spirit/demon in terms of power, creating the old gods and etc-, Flemeth's grown cult could have splitted into factions, those who followed flemeth and those who now worshipped the archdemon. At one point she was murdered before she could do the body transfer ritual. Her spirit goes into the fade wondering and still able to communicate with her cult followers. This point on her loyal followers researched a way to resurrect her and maybe created the dark ritual in the process as well as the grey wardens. The cult of flemeth killed the archdemon merged flemeth's spirit with the old god's spirit increasing her own power in the process in which she overthrows her contracted spirit/demon in terms of power and subjacates it. Flemeth is reborn in a new body with new stronger powers.

Swearing revenge on those from her cult who worship the Old Gods aka the Archdemons, she took on the mantle of Andraste, the exalted marches occurred, flemeth capture, burned at the stake however before she was burn she transferred to another body. Seeing how her cult has failed she went solo to improve her magic or bide time for something else before the second blight.

It is possible that flemeth could have contracted the Maker, and became andraste at a point based on this theory.

[Froswald]

Tom Bombadil's sister

[Angrywolves]

The so called Dread Wolf or one of his minions.

[Sir Something]

I would just like to note that when Morrigan tells the story of Flemeth, in DA:O, she says it was before the Tevinter Imperium. Which may mean before the old gods.

In case anyone cares

[azerSheppard]

She is likely the Dread Wolf, the trickster.

[Urdnot Amenark]

I kind of like the mystery surrounding her as a character. Definitely probably tied to the dragons in some way, possibly one of the first dragon cultists.

[Suledin]

I think that Morrigan will tell us in DA: I what Flemeth is. It's been 10 years since she's got the Grimoire.

I hope the story in DA: I includes Flemeth. She told us in DA: 2 about the coming changes in Thedas. I'd like to see some interreaction between Morrigan and Flemeth.

I personally think she is an Old God or OGB as she knows what to do with the soul of an Archdemon.

[Angrywolves]

I think Flemeth herself will tell us who or what she is.
I doubt Morrigan knows what Flemeth is.

[Suledin]

I've asked and she said

"I am a fly in the ointment, a whisper in the shadows. I am also an old, old woman. More than that, you need not know."

Perhaps the Inquisitor will have more...persuasion to get a clear answer.

[TimeMaster98]

All these people talking about all the things flemeth could be but not one of them thinks that flemeth could be the first Old God Baby

[Bardox9]

Ever since I heard Morrigan explain the "Dark Ritual" I have been convinced that Flemeth is "Old God Baby", but after seeing Legacy it's also possible she is one of the original magisters as well. Curiouser and curiouser...

[Sc2mashimaro]

Blacklash93 wrote...
There's no reason for the writers to have Morrigan lie about Flemeth. Or have Fenris and Anders make obervations that end up not being true. They aren't going to say something (more than once) just to mislead us.

And I'm certain they know what she is. The've already said they have a general plan for Dragon Age as a whole series and if Flemeth plays into that as much as they seem to indicate, they should know the nature of what she is. Even if they don't, they know it's not the wisest choice to contradict everything that's been said about her, things that have been treated as revelations.

Sure they would. Unreliable narrators and all. Not a complete lie, mind you, just enough of the truth to give the characters speaking plausible reasons for saying what they said. But whole stories are often written based on the lie a single character told, why not a few characters?

[Foulfrost]

I'm guessing she's the soul of an Old God or Archdemon that possesed the unborn child on a Grey Warden that was nearby when she was killed. A grey warden might have laid with somebody the night before and it all happened by accident.

It's possible that she's still persuing whatever agenda she had before that. Her plan to put Urthemiel's soul in a mortal boy - son of Alistair or The Warden - certainly seems to hint that she's got a some interest in the Old Gods, the Darkspawn and possibly the Maker's involvement in it all.

Her mention that she "laughs at a world full of stupid humans" seems to hint she was never truly human. It's probably safe to assume the Chasint legends are all wrong.

I for one am hoping Bioware make DA3 the game all Dragon Age fans desire it to be and I hope Flemeth's inolvement is finally explained. I also secretly hope The Warden and Morrigan team up if they were lovers in Da:O

[Angrywolves]

perhaps Fen Harel, the elven God or one of his incarnations.

[Angrywolves]

there won't be any such teamups btw.

[74 Wrex]

She is the first old god baby
That is my guess

[Sir Something]

Morrigan claims that she is "not entirely human". This can be viewed in many ways. For a start it could mean that she was human to begin with but not any more. What I have recently come to think is that she may be something not human that has taken over a human body.

I believe there is a possibility that she is one of the old elves of Arlathan, or at least the spirit of one. In the day's of Arlathan, the elve's apparently didn't die. They entered a coma like sleep for hundreds of years, and possibly wake up from. Flemeth could've been sleeping during the fall of the first elven homeland and woke up later on. Perhaps her original body is still sleeping and her spirit is acting instead. If it's the latter, she could be a dreamer, a mage capable of affecting the Fade, and found a way to leave and posses another body. If so, she could be the spirit called on by Flemeth in story you hear from Leliana, and Morrigan

Or perhaps she wasn't sleeping but was affected like all other elve's who came into contact with humans. She would have then wanted to preserve her own existence so she came up with the body swapping ritual. Or perhaps it was a way to hide among humans so she could make her plan's and wait for a time to acheive her goal

Also you hear a lot of theory's about people saying she is the dread wolf, or an old god, or even simply a very powerful mage. What's keeping her from being all of those things and more? In DAII she shows that she is not limited to being in one place at one time. She could be Fen' Harel who split his soul to create an old god, who then split his soul to create Flemeth.

Flemeth is just a name that has been given to her over the years. The name itself might only be as old as the original legend of Flemeth, and Connobar, and Osen. The soul of the being we have come to know as Flemeth could be much, much older.

This all just a theory, and probably complete nonsense, but hey, it's fun to come up with this.

Modifié par Sir Something, 16 décembre 2013 - 09:43 .

[Ananka]

She's one of the magisters that entered the golden city. Or an old god.
I'm calling it now.

Modifié par Annaka, 26 décembre 2013 - 09:08 .

[Rotward]

She's nothing special, she's just good at illusions, and convinced everyone she was some mythical being of great strength.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Annaka wrote...

She's one of the magisters that entered the golden city. Or an old god.
I'm calling it now.

She's the mother of the maker.

[Rotward]

She's actually a corpse, the warden killed her, and the creature claiming to be flemeth in DAII is a crossdressing qunari with a penchant for drama.

Modifié par Rotward, 31 décembre 2013 - 01:01 .

[otis0310]

I like what another person here in the thread said:

"An old hag who talks too much"

[ReadingRambo220]

There was some concept art I saw with Cassandra and the new mage confronting a blurry form that kinda looked like Flemeth.

I've been wondering what she is for about 5 years now... There are a lot of theories but none convince me completely. Surely someone has guessed it by now?

Regardless of my reaction will be when her nature is revealed, I must say she has been a very interesting character and a joy to speculate about.

Is there a possibility she will remain ambiguous? Or did Bioware confirm they will reveal her nature in DAI?

[ZeroPhoenix94]

An old hag that knows too much.