She shows up at the start. Then she shows up later at Sundermount...and that's it. I thought she'd be a bigger part of the game later on but no, that's it. Why is she even on the background of this site? It's like she was put in the game simply to retcon her death Origins. Did I miss something?
What was the point of Flemeth?
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Metal Mills
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 06:18
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Flemeth is the main character of Dragon Age, duh.
Seriously though, it was probably just to retcon her death and lay some plot elements to be picked up on later in the series.
Seriously though, it was probably just to retcon her death and lay some plot elements to be picked up on later in the series.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 06:22
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they might have plans to use her in DLC later
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 06:25
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Flemeth is one of the most awesome parts in the story. She's the coolest character in the game, after Varric.
DO NOT SCREW HER UP FOR ME WITH YOUR COLD UNFEELING LOGIC!
DO NOT SCREW HER UP FOR ME WITH YOUR COLD UNFEELING LOGIC!
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 06:29
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Do not mess with Flemeth Janeway, she's killed before.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 06:35
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Because Crazy Captain Flemeth Dragonway is awesome, yes.
For story reasons though, she's there to drop a whole heap of foreshadowing, both for DA2 and presumably DA3. And seeing how she survives DAO is a nice touch (it's not a retcon, Morrigan says from the beginning that she's definitely not dead. Killing Flemeth in DAO is mostly a delaying tactic.)
For story reasons though, she's there to drop a whole heap of foreshadowing, both for DA2 and presumably DA3. And seeing how she survives DAO is a nice touch (it's not a retcon, Morrigan says from the beginning that she's definitely not dead. Killing Flemeth in DAO is mostly a delaying tactic.)
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 06:38
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Flemeth IS the Dragon Age. She's manipulated the era from the start, all the way back to saving Maric and Loghain when they were teenagers so they could go on to take Ferelden back from the Orlaisians. This was in STOLEN THRONE.
She saved the Warden and Alastair so the Warden could stop the Blight and help crown a new ruler of Ferelden.
She saved Hawke so that Hawke's decision would lead to a war between the mages and the Templars.
She's playing a long game by subtly influencing events towards the directions she's foreseen.
For all we know, she was the dragon spotted flying over the mountains that led the chroniclers to name this era The Dragon Age.
She saved the Warden and Alastair so the Warden could stop the Blight and help crown a new ruler of Ferelden.
She saved Hawke so that Hawke's decision would lead to a war between the mages and the Templars.
She's playing a long game by subtly influencing events towards the directions she's foreseen.
For all we know, she was the dragon spotted flying over the mountains that led the chroniclers to name this era The Dragon Age.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 06:42
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She's there so that you would think Flemeth would have a large part in the story and buy the game 
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 06:54
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Setting her up for the next game or books.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 06:56
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Metal Mills wrote...
She shows up at the start. Then she shows up later at Sundermount...and that's it. I thought she'd be a bigger part of the game later on but no, that's it. Why is she even on the background of this site? It's like she was put in the game simply to retcon her death Origins. Did I miss something?
I don't think you know what retcon means.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:09
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No. It's not a retcon. It's ias others have said, a setup, I suspect for whatever DLC/expansions they have planned. Perhaps she might be the main antagonist or a major player in an Awakenings type expansion, and they're just giving us a heads-up as to why she could still be alive.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:12
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SDNcN wrote...
Metal Mills wrote...
She shows up at the start. Then she shows up later at Sundermount...and that's it. I thought she'd be a bigger part of the game later on but no, that's it. Why is she even on the background of this site? It's like she was put in the game simply to retcon her death Origins. Did I miss something?
I don't think you know what retcon means.
Actually, it probably is the wrong word but you know what I mean. They killed her then in this game came up with a excuse to bring her back.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:15
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Well if you remember you could simply lie about her being dead.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:15
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I don't think she'll ever die. She's friggin' godly!
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:17
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Metal Mills wrote...
SDNcN wrote...
Metal Mills wrote...
She shows up at the start. Then she shows up later at Sundermount...and that's it. I thought she'd be a bigger part of the game later on but no, that's it. Why is she even on the background of this site? It's like she was put in the game simply to retcon her death Origins. Did I miss something?
I don't think you know what retcon means.
Actually, it probably is the wrong word but you know what I mean. They killed her then in this game came up with a excuse to bring her back.
Nope, go listen to Morrigan in Origins again. She states outright as soon as you talk to her about 'now that Flemeth's dead' that Flemeth is most certainly NOT gone for good. Actually, I think she even says this before you go to fight Flemeth, that killing her won't actually kill her. It's not a retcon because there's nothing to retcon. It's an explanation of how she managed it (partially).
Of course, she doesn't necessarily die in Origins, depending on player choice. In DA2 it seems she's not even aware of whether she died or not.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:18
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It was to lead up on the "she is dead, supposedly" thread from DAO. Instead of just making her reappear in a future installment, they actually show us how she did it.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:19
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So if you don't kill her in DA:O, does that mean there are now in fact TWO Flemeths?
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:20
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As it was said before, in DAO it was spelled quite clearly that Flemeth did not die, but would be back one way or another. So no, neither "retcon" nor "excuse" match the situation.Metal Mills wrote...
SDNcN wrote...
Metal Mills wrote...
She shows up at the start. Then she shows up later at Sundermount...and that's it. I thought she'd be a bigger part of the game later on but no, that's it. Why is she even on the background of this site? It's like she was put in the game simply to retcon her death Origins. Did I miss something?
I don't think you know what retcon means.
Actually, it probably is the wrong word but you know what I mean. They killed her then in this game came up with a excuse to bring her back.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:20
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The Angry One wrote...
So if you don't kill her in DA:O, does that mean there are now in fact TWO Flemeths?
Maybe the only way she can be defeated is by getting them to riddle at each other.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:21
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Flemeth known by many names - the Witch of the Wilds, Asha'bellanar, the woman of many years, a nutty old bat who talks too much. She sees the future and changes the course of history. She is an immortal, powerful being, who is neither human nor spirit nor abomination. She is...something else.
The whole point is to touch on the fact that many of the truly pivotal events in Thedas bear her influence, sometimes as gross as turning into a giant bird and rescuing the last two wardens in Fereldan and sometimes subtle as a seemingly innocuous word in the right ear.
Personally, I would not be surprised if yet another of her many names is Fen'Harel.
The whole point is to touch on the fact that many of the truly pivotal events in Thedas bear her influence, sometimes as gross as turning into a giant bird and rescuing the last two wardens in Fereldan and sometimes subtle as a seemingly innocuous word in the right ear.
Personally, I would not be surprised if yet another of her many names is Fen'Harel.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:22
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She is one of those invincible plot-immune characters that supposed to give events more depth and epicness by rambling random things about story points which designers can't logically explain to the player.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:24
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The Angry One wrote...
So if you don't kill her in DA:O, does that mean there are now in fact TWO Flemeths?
She's hinted at splitting herself into parts in DA 2. There could could be many Flemeths. A Flemeth hive mind collective even.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:25
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Monsteroids wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
So if you don't kill her in DA:O, does that mean there are now in fact TWO Flemeths?
She's hinted at splitting herself into parts in DA 2. There could could be many Flemeths. A Flemeth hive mind collective even.
We are the Borg... Um I mean Legion... NO! I mean Flemeth
