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[Peterrrrr]

1. I wounder when its best to do the new "Arrival" mission? Just before the IFF mission or after finished the game?

2. I have the same question around  the "Lair Of The Shadow Broker" mission, is it best to do before IFF mission or after finished the game?

[Akizora]

Nobody knows about Arrival yet, we don't even have any solid information about what happens in it. LotSB however is best played AFTER finishing the suicide mission, there are a few unique dialogues for that and just feels more "bridging" than otherwise.

[SmokePants]

Everything should be done before. There's exclusive dialogue, either way. But there are upgrades that you'll get that you'll have no more opportunity to use if you do the DLC's last.

Not to mention, you have to avoid telling Liara about the Cerberus intel that triggers LOTSB, which probably doesn't make a whole lot of sense from a character standpoint.

Modifié par SmokePants, 23 mars 2011 - 11:17 .

[Alienmorph]

You can play LotSB before the SM (there will be only a few different dialogues), but it's thinked to be set after Omega4, in the time between the end of ME2 and the beginning of ME3. Same for Arrival, but maybe it won't be unlocked as playable before the SM, considered that it would show events immediately precurring ME3.

[xSTONEYx187x]

After. Anyone tells you otherwise is trippin'.

Modifié par xSTONEYx187x, 23 mars 2011 - 11:33 .

[PiEman]

xSTONEYx187x wrote...

After. Anyone tells you otherwise is trippin'.

Word to your mother.

[aimlessgun]

LotSB works if played before. I imagined it as a Liara recruitment mission, in line with all the other recruitment missions I was doing (in character of course, knew you couldn't recruit Liara).

[jayred vas normandy]

Overlord, LOTSB, Arrival all after SM.

[Taleroth]

It's supposed to be after the Suicide Mission. However, I think the gentleman who mentions getting equipment from it has a good point.

[somecthemes]

It probably won't matter if you play before or after the SM but for a few comments. I assume, like LotSB, that the DLC will wrap up with no overarching game threads that would preclude the SM or the end game movie that shows everyone getting word that the reapers have come. Now, the advancements like new weapons or a new power to select during character creation may make the game have replay value again, but it's unlikely to make beating the game a requirement to playing the DLC. I tend to assume everyone is like me and has beaten the game through multiple interations, but bioware has to come from the other standpoint and assume that the interest in the last DLC will make a couple people buy the game even now. Why would bioware then have that same DLC be unplayable until after beating the game.

[Fiery Phoenix]

LOTSB was obviously written with the assumption that the player has completed the main story.

[Whatever42]

However, I will suggest that while LOTSB can make perfect sense earlier in the game (Liara does worry about Shepard going through the relay), to me it sounds like Arrival is as much a prequel to ME3 as it is ME2 DLC. But we shall see.

[somecthemes]

It may have been written with the assumption of game completion, but it gives the opportunity to begin immediately after testing Mordin's protection from the swarms. There are also solid benefits to engaging in the mission early, like access to profitable ventures, resources, and upgrades. Even the story during the mission makes sure not to reference the work Shep is currently doing other than to maintain that Shep is after the collectors. So I can't even say that the mission is clearly written for end game activities.

[SmokePants]

LOTSB acknowledges game completion, just like it acknowledges the Collectors still being a threat. It works exactly the same, either way, with slightly different dialogue. Saying it was meant to be set after the Omega 4 mission is absurd. It has nothing to do with that.

I doubt Arrival will, either. Even though it would be hard to divorce the Reaper plot from the main Collector story, that's probably what they're going to do. I can't see them overwriting the suicide mission as the proper end to the game by rigidly placing this DLC mission after it.

[jayred vas normandy]

BRIDGING DLC suggest that it is intended to fall between ME2 and ME3.
you dont biuld a bridge to get to the same place.

[Gentleman Moogle]

I'm going to assume, based on what little we know of the Arrival DLC, that it will be a post-SM DLC package. Especially since it seems likely that the DLC will tie in with the Cerberus Network News updates we've been getting, all of which -- I assume -- take place post SM as well.

[bluewolv1970]

How can a bridging DLC thats fills in the gaps between the end of ME2 and the beginning of ME3 take place before the Suicide Mission? That makes no sense to me...

[Kingthlayer]

LotSB fits in perfectly either before or after the Suicide mission. I tend to do it before the Suicide Mission just because of all the little investment things that pop up. Seems pointless to play a game to check out a base.

I also few the mission as kind of a Shepard loyalty mission, especially if in a romance with Liara. There is no guarantee that we'll be coming back from the Suicide Mission(obviously we the player know better but the characters in game don't) so it's far better to deal with it before in that situation.

Overlord can be played before or after but it doesn't matter. I like taking Legion on that mission so I normally wait til the end of suicide mission.

Arrival on the other hand, at least based on what we think is going to happen in it should be post SM only.

[PrinceLionheart]

How I handle LoTSB is like this;

Complete the main mission before perfoming the suicide mission. After the suicide mission, I do the reunion with Liara on the Normandy. And bang, I've killed two birds with one stone.

[ADelusiveMan]

I did the entire game first, then went on to LoTSB as it was meant to be played. I'm more than certain Arrival is supposed to take place after dealing with the Collectors, because it is the final story DLC before Mass Effect 3, which would make it the best part to intend ME2's story.

Modifié par ADelusiveMan, 24 mars 2011 - 06:42 .

[LordAnguis]

On the Mass Effect Wiki, which these guys actually do monitor to make sure no Speculation is put on there as fact, it clearly states that the Lair of the Shadow Broker was the first 'bridging' DLC set between Mass Effect 2 and 3. Yes, some of the stuff would be of use in Mass Effect 2, like the info on mineral-heavy planets. But if you want to play it canonically, you'll play it after the Suicide Mission.
The temptation to just do it is definitely one that can be a struggle. I only recently got it, when I decided to go a new series of playthroughs in preparation for not only the Arrival DLC but also Mass Effect 3.
Arrival is definitely set AFTER the suicide mission. If you think I'm lying, go read the various announcements by Priestly. They state the same words. After Mass Effect 2. LotSB was designed to have optional dialogue since it was availabl as soon as you had gone to Illium the first time. Arrival, from all sources, is not designed in this fashion. Personally, rather than debating this on the forums where people don't seem to bother to actually pay attention to what's said (all in the name of BioWare's apparent 'deceptions' of the past, from what accounts I've found), you should just send a message to Priestly and ask him straight-out when both are meant to be played. You'll get an answer from them, the developers of the game, rather than people who have their own version of 'canon', depending on what kind of Shepard they play.

[SmokePants]

I love to say, "I told you so.", so, "I told you so." Arrival can be accessed the same time as LOTSB, according to Giant Bomb's preview. Apparently, some lines of dialogue will change, depending on your progress in the main story.

Feels like I've been shouting at a wall for 8 months that BioWare would never release a DLC that overrides the suicide mission as the finale and that people were misunderstanding what "bridging" meant.

Modifié par SmokePants, 24 mars 2011 - 11:53 .

[Almostfaceman]

Peterrrrr wrote...

1. I wounder when its best to do the new "Arrival" mission? Just before the IFF mission or after finished the game?

2. I have the same question around  the "Lair Of The Shadow Broker" mission, is it best to do before IFF mission or after finished the game?

Supposedly the dialogue of the dlc changes depending on when you do it in game - like it's different if you do it right after Horizon than if you do it after the Suicide Mission.  Kinda like Lair of the Shadow Broker.

[Peterrrrr]

Peterrrrr wrote...

1. I wounder when its best to do the new "Arrival" mission? Just before the IFF mission or after finished the game?

2. I have the same question around  the "Lair Of The Shadow Broker" mission, is it best to do before IFF mission or after finished the game?

Anyone know more about this after playing Arrival?

Also to make all clear, is there any difference in what happend if I choose to play LOTSB before/after Suicide mission?