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would shepard be considered a criminal?
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 10:16
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for being near cerberus by the alliance? what if he never worked or did anything for cerberus (absolutely nothing)?
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 11:17
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The Alliance has a lot of unanswered questions. The note from LotSB suggests they want to bring Shepard in to question. Hackett Denied this. The new DLC should answer some questions of the Alliances current opinion on Shepard. Personally I think they are more concerned then anything else.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 12:00
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Shep is at heavy risk...
However i agree, the alliance knows too little for take a position aganist shepard.
However i agree, the alliance knows too little for take a position aganist shepard.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 12:17
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probably, depending the choices you made..in ME2 when you went back to the citadel, they mentioned if you wanted to stay as a spectre for the alliance or keep being part of a terrorist group.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 01:00
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Shepard has quite a few safety nets when it comes to being in trouble with the Alliance. First off, Shepard has a ship that can FTL. Second, Admiral Hackett is of very high rank and will deny anyone who attempts to investigate. Third, the Reaper threat is Shepard's main concern right now. Who really cares if he's in trouble with the Alliance? They are either going to help him or not and I really doubt they are going to care about 'what to do with Shepard' with Harbinger and the gang are harvesting the people of Earth.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 02:32
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he is like 007
license to kick ass and never answer for it (sort of)
license to kick ass and never answer for it (sort of)
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 02:35
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Something as significant as a trial would have to be applied to all Shepard's regardless of choice.The Shadow Broker wrote...
probably, depending the choices you made..in ME2 when you went back to the citadel, they mentioned if you wanted to stay as a spectre for the alliance or keep being part of a terrorist group.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 02:49
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Honestly they could of framed the entire story in the form of a trial with different people coming forward to testify about Shepard's actions etc
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 02:53
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Shepard hasn't broken any laws. Well, nothing that would be reported.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 02:55
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I'm tempted to engage you on that one, Whatever, but seeing as how this is a spoiler-free forum, I should try not to break the "law".Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...
Shepard hasn't broken any laws. Well, nothing that would be reported.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 02:58
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Well it doesn't matter anyway because Im a Spectre, the Alliance has no jurisdiction over me!!
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 02:59
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Fiery Phoenix wrote...
I'm tempted to engage you on that one, Whatever, but seeing as how this is a spoiler-free forum, I should try not to break the "law".Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...
Shepard hasn't broken any laws. Well, nothing that would be reported.
Oh, this forum hasn't been spoiler free in months.
But remember, I said that would be reported... Besides, my Shep is a spectre again so I can sow carnage with complete abandon!
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 03:01
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Look at this from the Alliance and the Council's point of view. A guy (for instance), even a hero, shows up after two years in command of a very expensive Cerberus ship, manned by a Cerberus crew, and with two high-ranking Cerberus operatives with him. Clearly, he's not just in with Cerberus. He's been entrusted with the command of something that's eaten up much of Cerberus' considerable resources.
We know TIM takes the Reaper threat seriously. They don't, or at least say they don't.
What would you think after Shepard docked the new Normandy at the Citadel, walked in after two years, was entrusted with so much of Cerberus' resources and, when you ask him how he got there, replied: "I was dead for two years and Cerberus brought me back to life again."
You'd wonder what really went on the past two years, but be unable to prove anything.
He's/She's under suspicion, to say the least.
We know TIM takes the Reaper threat seriously. They don't, or at least say they don't.
What would you think after Shepard docked the new Normandy at the Citadel, walked in after two years, was entrusted with so much of Cerberus' resources and, when you ask him how he got there, replied: "I was dead for two years and Cerberus brought me back to life again."
You'd wonder what really went on the past two years, but be unable to prove anything.
He's/She's under suspicion, to say the least.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 03:08
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Turian Councilor: "You planned the destruction of your ship Shepard, killing twenty people in the process, to defect to Cerberus and help them with their pro human operations for two years in secret before showing up in a ship who's design was stolen from the Alliance and the Turian government, no doubt by you! Claiming to have been dead and resurrected like some modern day religious myth and yapping on about some 'collector' threat which everyone knows doesn't exist. Then you make a power play in the Terminus system, making contacts with the shadow broker and other notorious criminals before finally giving a previously undiscovered station to Cerberus for a base of operations, one that cannot be reached by alliance ships safely! Clearly Shepard is the single most dangerous threat to the Council systems and it's stability."
So um ya put like that Shepard could be in serious legal trouble, I wonder how long between arrival and ME 3.
So um ya put like that Shepard could be in serious legal trouble, I wonder how long between arrival and ME 3.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 03:12
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Was Greybox on a vacation? Doesn't matter, HE'S BACK!! 
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 03:14
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Chewin3 wrote...
Was Greybox on a vacation? Doesn't matter, HE'S BACK!!
He was moonlighting as Yiplee.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 03:17
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I have to say I've always been rather fascinated with the idea of ME3 starting with some sort of trial/interrogation. Would be much better than what ME2 gave us as its prologue. Not as epic, but better.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 03:38
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^Go play L.A Noire if you want interrogation, Fiery /joke
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 03:57
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Synobal wrote...
Turian Councilor: "You planned the destruction of your ship Shepard, killing twenty people in the process, to defect to Cerberus and help them with their pro human operations for two years in secret before showing up in a ship who's design was stolen from the Alliance and the Turian government, no doubt by you! Claiming to have been dead and resurrected like some modern day religious myth and yapping on about some 'collector' threat which everyone knows doesn't exist. Then you make a power play in the Terminus system, making contacts with the shadow broker and other notorious criminals before finally giving a previously undiscovered station to Cerberus for a base of operations, one that cannot be reached by alliance ships safely! Clearly Shepard is the single most dangerous threat to the Council systems and it's stability."
So um ya put like that Shepard could be in serious legal trouble, I wonder how long between arrival and ME 3.
Ah yes, Turian councilor ... Did he really say that or you just invented it ?
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 04:06
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Robibond wrote...
Synobal wrote...
Turian Councilor: "You planned the destruction of your ship Shepard, killing twenty people in the process, to defect to Cerberus and help them with their pro human operations for two years in secret before showing up in a ship who's design was stolen from the Alliance and the Turian government, no doubt by you! Claiming to have been dead and resurrected like some modern day religious myth and yapping on about some 'collector' threat which everyone knows doesn't exist. Then you make a power play in the Terminus system, making contacts with the shadow broker and other notorious criminals before finally giving a previously undiscovered station to Cerberus for a base of operations, one that cannot be reached by alliance ships safely! Clearly Shepard is the single most dangerous threat to the Council systems and it's stability."
So um ya put like that Shepard could be in serious legal trouble, I wonder how long between arrival and ME 3.
Ah yes, Turian councilor ... Did he really say that or you just invented it ?
I just made it up, looking at things from his 'shepard is evil' point of view.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:43
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Now this is an interesting question. I bet it just depends on certain people's opinion of him, I'd go into more detail but this is a spoiler free forum section. I bet there'd be plenty of people, human and otherwise, that would consider him a criminal, and plenty who'd consider him a hero, and plenty who wouldn't care................
Whether or not shep has broken many laws really depends on a few things. (trying my best to be spoiler free). He has certainly broken some, though like FP said, can't go into detail on this forum. Shep is a spectre most of the first game, and it's implied that things before that are inconsequential once he's become a spectre. The second game, 2 separate factors here. 1) shep may or may not be a spectre, if he is, he can do whatever the hack he wants pretty much, short of assassinating the council. He can go to the council as soon as you get the second normandy. Before that, it's stuff that is implied once again is inconsequential in the long run. 2) most of ME2 takes place in the terminus systems, the council won't give a damn what shep does on omega, he could blow it up for all they care even if he's not a spectre. The council's jurasdiction only goes as far as citadel space. Only a small part of ME2 takes place in citadel space, e.g. tuchanka, and the krogan don't really care what he does there. The only large citadel space part of ME2 is the citadel it's self. And ok, shep may break a few laws on a certain mission there, but who's going to care about those guys?
So the only thing I can really see people thinking shep is a criminal over is his association with cerberus, though if he's no longer with cerberus once the collector threat is over and done with, I hope that would prove he was only working with them because he had to. If he hasn't told cerberus to get lost, well, I suppose he could be considered a bit of a criminal yes, but with the ME3 bigger picture, once that picture is widely known and it becomes widely known that the *spoiler* in ME2 were really working for the *spoiler*, who's going to care?
So with the exception of a shep who's still with cerberus at the end of ME2, before the bigger picture becomes widely known in ME3, no, I don't think shep could be considered a criminal at all.
Whether or not shep has broken many laws really depends on a few things. (trying my best to be spoiler free). He has certainly broken some, though like FP said, can't go into detail on this forum. Shep is a spectre most of the first game, and it's implied that things before that are inconsequential once he's become a spectre. The second game, 2 separate factors here. 1) shep may or may not be a spectre, if he is, he can do whatever the hack he wants pretty much, short of assassinating the council. He can go to the council as soon as you get the second normandy. Before that, it's stuff that is implied once again is inconsequential in the long run. 2) most of ME2 takes place in the terminus systems, the council won't give a damn what shep does on omega, he could blow it up for all they care even if he's not a spectre. The council's jurasdiction only goes as far as citadel space. Only a small part of ME2 takes place in citadel space, e.g. tuchanka, and the krogan don't really care what he does there. The only large citadel space part of ME2 is the citadel it's self. And ok, shep may break a few laws on a certain mission there, but who's going to care about those guys?
So the only thing I can really see people thinking shep is a criminal over is his association with cerberus, though if he's no longer with cerberus once the collector threat is over and done with, I hope that would prove he was only working with them because he had to. If he hasn't told cerberus to get lost, well, I suppose he could be considered a bit of a criminal yes, but with the ME3 bigger picture, once that picture is widely known and it becomes widely known that the *spoiler* in ME2 were really working for the *spoiler*, who's going to care?
So with the exception of a shep who's still with cerberus at the end of ME2, before the bigger picture becomes widely known in ME3, no, I don't think shep could be considered a criminal at all.
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Posté 23 mars 2011 - 07:52
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As far as my Shep's concerned, he's still a Spectre, and therefore above most Citadel space laws, but he's also still on his very first Council appointed mission. His job was to stop Saren and his army, and that mission is still ongoing. The fact that Saren died is inconsiquential to that mission - it transpired that he wasn't in charge, so the mission parameters transferred to The Reapers.
