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[Abraxas11]

I've certainly seen a fair amount of feedback that says, "I couldn't play Origins, I thought it was too slow, the story was too plodding, too typical, and Dragon Age II is awesome by comparison!"

I forgot the kubler-ross model...what comes after denial?

Edit: Sorry, didn't link www.eurogamer.net/articles/biowares-mike-laidlaw-a-defence-of-dragon-age-ii-interview

Modifié par Abraxas11, 23 mars 2011 - 11:47 .

[FellowerOfOdin]

Selective reading. Mike rocks at it.

[Brenus]

If I was to say anything bad about this **** I'd be banned right?

Erm .... oops :x

[P_k_r]

Lol'd, they can't cover this up forever.

[AkiKishi]

I just read the funniest thing. Hyper Dimensional Neptunia has a higher user score than DA2.

As for Mike... Is he related to Charlie Sheen?

[Nightnight]

wat?

[Balerion84]

Abraxas11 wrote...

I've certainly seen a fair amount of feedback that says, "I couldn't play Origins, I thought it was too slow, the story was too plodding, too typical, and Dragon Age II is awesome by comparison!"

I forgot the kubler-ross model...what comes after denial?

ANGER!

That one should be fun. I just don't know if his divine anger will be directed towards his team/EA or the fans. If I had to guess, I'd say it'll be the latter.

Modifié par Balerion84, 23 mars 2011 - 11:21 .

[delikanli]

mike laidlaw is "winning"

[Nightnight]

After the release of DAII, I don't remember Mike Laidlaw posting in the forum anymore?

Modifié par Nightnight, 23 mars 2011 - 11:26 .

[Bathead]

Brenus wrote...

If I was to say anything bad about this **** I'd be banned right?

Erm .... oops :x

Only if you broke forum rules doing it.

[FellowerOfOdin]

Mike Laidlaw is on Charlie Sheen.

[LoneFullmetal]

Dragon Age: Origins would of been faster paced if it was a turn-based RPG.

Still wouldn't say it was too slow, or unplayable though.

[aphelion002]

Link to this? Also, I have been wondering this for sometime now, does Mike Laidlaw even like Dragon Age Origins? Ever since development I have heard far more bad than good come out of him about that game. From the way he talks you would think Origins was made by Bethesda or something.

[ejoslin]

Abraxas11 wrote...

I've certainly seen a fair amount of feedback that says, "I couldn't play Origins, I thought it was too slow, the story was too plodding, too typical, and Dragon Age II is awesome by comparison!"

I forgot the kubler-ross model...what comes after denial?

See, what I don't get is why all the awards that DA:O won, all the critical praise, the fact that it sold so well is completely discounted.

Focus groups are fine, but it seems that the anecdotal is being put ahead of and believed above aggregate data.  It's easy enough to take the numbers and have them say what you want them to say I suppose, but just the overwhelming critical success of DAO should be proof that this reaction was really not what the majority of people who played DAO felt.

Edit: I really liked both games.  I wish DA2 had more individual character interaction with the companions, in particular the love interests, but all in all, both are enjoyable.

Modifié par ejoslin, 23 mars 2011 - 11:34 .

[FellowerOfOdin]

Protip: get the Faster Combat mod for Dragon Age: Origins.

[CRISIS1717]

I'm sure whenever Mike Laidlaw uses a coffee machine he says "WOW thats awesome!"

[BeljoraDien]

aphelion002 wrote...

Link to this? Also, I have been wondering this for sometime now, does Mike Laidlaw even like Dragon Age Origins? Ever since development I have heard far more bad than good come out of him about that game. From the way he talks you would think Origins was made by Bethesda or something.

It's funny; I noticed this exact same thing, and not just with Laidlaw but many of the developers. On the release of Awakening people were complaining about how short it was, and one of the devs began arguing that DA:O was actually too long... Wish I could remember which one now. Makes you wonder why they even made it...

[Icinix]

CRISIS1717 wrote...

I'm sure whenever Mike Laidlaw uses a coffee machine he says "WOW thats awesome!"

Maybe it was during Caffeine withdrawal he came across one of those coffee machines....

..and thats when the whole 'Press a button and something awesome happens' came about..

It was all down hill from there.

[upsettingshorts]

BeljoraDien wrote...

It's funny; I noticed this exact same thing, and not just with Laidlaw but many of the developers. On the release of Awakening people were complaining about how short it was, and one of the devs began arguing that DA:O was actually too long... Wish I could remember which one now. Makes you wonder why they even made it...

Look on the bright side, when DA3 comes around they'll be slamming DA2.

[Icinix]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

BeljoraDien wrote...

It's funny; I noticed this exact same thing, and not just with Laidlaw but many of the developers. On the release of Awakening people were complaining about how short it was, and one of the devs began arguing that DA:O was actually too long... Wish I could remember which one now. Makes you wonder why they even made it...

Look on the bright side, when DA3 comes around they'll be slamming DA2.

It's funny 'cos its true.

Modifié par Icinix, 23 mars 2011 - 11:48 .

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

I'm so sick to death of the whining about DA2.

The rehashing of too many dungeons is understandable. The game could have took place in Kirkwall still been spread accross 2 discs and had more dungeon enviroments to add variety.

But everything else is just blatant whining. So crafting has been dumbed down. Cry me a river... everything in the game has been streamlined to be more fun and the story breaks the mold of a traditional RPG storyline which also made people mad. You can't win. Bioware needs to ignore this minority and focus on the people who will make money... the mainstream the people who really enjoyed Dragon Age 2 more than Origins.

Wahhh Wahhh Wahhh it's not a carbon copy of Baldurs gate. Do you know how childish many people sound? It was exactly like this with Mass Effect 2. I'm tired of people trying to dictate what the terms of an RPG are. Go make your own RPG and get people to buy it. With Mass Effect 2 it was an inventory system. With Dragon Age 2 apparantly an Inventory system isn't enough so its the lack of dated clunky mechanics.

The game is just as tactical as DAO if not more. If casual gamers want to set it to easy mode / normal mode and hack and slash they can. But try hacking and slashing on hard mode.

Modifié par Pr3ying M4nt15 360, 23 mars 2011 - 11:53 .

[Vengeful Nature]

Abraxas11 wrote...

I've certainly seen a fair amount of feedback that says, "I couldn't play Origins, I thought it was too slow, the story was too plodding, too typical, and Dragon Age II is awesome by comparison!"

Who? Who said that? What forum is he reading? Maybe the odd comment from someone who wouldn't normally play RPG's to begin with...

DA:O was widely praised and won multiple awards. On PC, anyway. Hell, maybe that's where he's getting his info from: console players who found Origins too clunky. But it wasn't intended as a console game to begin with!

Stupid EA, forcing a console release.

[Drake Sigar]

Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...

But everything else is just blatant whining. So crafting has been dumbed down. Cry me a river... everything in the game has been streamlined to be more fun and the story breaks the mold of a traditional RPG storyline which also made people mad. You can't win. Bioware needs to ignore this minority and focus on the people who will make money... the mainstream the people who really enjoyed Dragon Age 2 more than Origins.

Doesn’t seem like a minority to me. Discounting the outraged 1/10s and the ridiculously chipper 10/10s (at this point the user reviews have more to do with combating each other than any opinion on the actual game), and you’ve still got a slew of professional critics and level-headed players who give Dragon Age 2 a resounding “meh.”

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

And people need to get off their horse about how Dragon Age 1 is somehow more indepth combat. You can just as easily turn the difficulty down and watch your characters hack and slash away in DA1 and you can just spam potions.

And whats this whining about the dialog wheel. The dialog wheel is awsome. Are you people insane?

[ejoslin]

Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...

And people need to get off their horse about how Dragon Age 1 is somehow more indepth combat. You can just as easily turn the difficulty down and watch your characters hack and slash away in DA1 and you can just spam potions.

And whats this whining about the dialog wheel. The dialog wheel is awsome. Are you people insane?

??? I think you're in the wrong thread.  Those points weren't brought up here.  People were wondering if the devs disliked DAO; they weren't trashing DA2.  

Edit: I understand that people are defenisve, but it does help to read a thread before ranting about things as, like in this case, the rant is completely off topic.

I liked DA2 as well as DAO.  I agree, though, that some of the comments about DAO seem very odd in the face of its success.

Modifié par ejoslin, 23 mars 2011 - 12:00 .