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[Emperor Iaius I]

Maybe it's just me, but Hawke seems to look rather a bit older than early 20s.

[Autodoll]

 These are just my guesses, based on the character's personalities and stories, mostly - less their looks.

Hawke - no more than 24, but at least 19 (it has room to vary between how the player wants to make Hawke). If Leandra was pregnant when she left Kirkwall, then at most 25 instead.
Carver/Bethany - 18, as stated by Leandra (Carver appears to be the elder of the twins, however)
Aveline - 31 - she's an accomplished soldier, and very level-headed. Young enough to pal around with Hawke, but old enough to be justified in some well-deserved scolding for some of Hawke's actions. I feel like she married Wesley young, hence her awkwardness courting Donnic.
Varric - I would say maybe... 29? Dwarves are difficult ("You humans are all racist" appropriate here?), but I wouldn't take Bartrand to be much older than 37... And Varric's seven years his junior, so I would say 29-30 at his youngest.
Merrill - In Origins, I would have said she was 21; older than Tamlen and the Warden, but still young enough to idolize the Keeper like a youth. In DA:II, I would add maybe a year or two, personally seeing her as being 23 - older than your sibling, but much more naive.
Isabela - I can't get 35 out of my head, at least for Act II. Like many others, I do see her as being married "young," at maybe 15 or 16, then her husband dying when she was around 20. Took to the seas for 10 years, at least, and then the extra years just for some leeway - I doubt she went straight from widow to pirate queen. I'd say she was 30 or 31 by the first Act, leaving her at 33/4 by the end of the second Act and 37/8 by the Second Battle of Kirkwall.
Fenris - His sister strikes me as being around 25, and the younger of the two. I wouldn't count on him as being in his twenties. I would speculate around 32 when he is first encountered, leaving him old enough at the finale to really want to live somewhere stable.
Sebastian - We know that he is at least 28 by Act III, making him at least 21 for Act I. However, I'd give him at least seven years from the bow conversation to the Chantry - he was a young man, impulsive and rash, when he entered the Chantry. I'd say that by Act III, he was at least 33-34 (I see him as younger than Anders), and therefore near 26/7 in Act I.
Anders - From Awakening, I would have guessed 27/8. By DA:II, when we meet him, it's still 9.31, the same year that the Blight and Mother (and Architect, if so) were defeated. He hasn't been a Warden for longer than a year, so the Blight probably hasn't aged him much. I'd say, however, that my assessment of him in Awakening was a bit young. I'd put him at around 30-33 in Act I, just old enough to refer to Hawke as little boy/girl even if Hawke is 25. This would put him as being 37-40 by the finale, an age at which he can accept dying for his actions.

And for kicks:
Leandra - She elopes with Malcolm Hawke at least 25 years before a year in to Act I, and was engaged even before then. Hence I would say at least 40, if she eloped at 15 (although I would put her as running away at 23, and see 48 as the youngest she could possibly be). As such, I would say around 48, however, since she does not seem older than 60.
Gamlen - Younger than Leandra, but old enough to have formed an opinion on her romantic choices. I'd say he's around 5-7 years younger than Leandra; around 41-43 according to my personal playthrough, 16-18 when Leandra ran away and 22-24 when his parents die, young enough to be resentful of his wasted time caring for them and to blow away all their money on bad habits.
Charade - She seems old enough to handle herself, but young enough to not do it well. I imagine that Gamlen and Mara married(?) after Leandra left and split after the Amell patriarch and matriarch died. I would say that
Gamlen was maybe 25/6 when she was born, putting her at 15-18 during Act I and 22-25 by her Act III introduction.

Okay, WAY lengthier than I intended, my apologies. Thank you for your time if you read all the way through this. 

Edit: Bolded so the names don't drown.:innocent:

Modifié par Autodoll, 24 mars 2011 - 03:28 .

[mesmerizedish]

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Maybe it's just me, but Hawke seems to look rather a bit older than early 20s.

Artistic license. It's only default dudeHawke who looks old anyway. But he's at most 25, since that's how many years ago Leandra and Malcolm ran off together. 21-ish is probably closest to the "canonical" age, but it could have been a shotgun wedding.

[Taura-Tierno]

Autodoll wrote...

 These are just my guesses, based on the character's personalities and stories, mostly - less their looks.

Hawke - no more than 24, but at least 19 (it has room to vary between how the player wants to make Hawke). If Leandra was pregnant when she left Kirkwall, then at most 25 instead.
Carver/Bethany - 18, as stated by Leandra (Carver appears to be the elder of the twins, however)
Aveline - 31 - she's an accomplished soldier, and very level-headed. Young enough to pal around with Hawke, but old enough to be justified in some well-deserved scolding for some of Hawke's actions. I feel like she married Wesley young, hence her awkwardness courting Donnic.
Varric - I would say maybe... 29? Dwarves are difficult ("You humans are all racist" appropriate here?), but I wouldn't take Bartrand to be much older than 37... And Varric's seven years his junior, so I would say 29-30 at his youngest.
Merrill - In Origins, I would have said she was 21; older than Tamlen and the Warden, but still young enough to idolize the Keeper like a youth. In DA:II, I would add maybe a year or two, personally seeing her as being 23 - older than your sibling, but much more naive.
Isabela - I can't get 35 out of my head, at least for Act II. Like many others, I do see her as being married "young," at maybe 15 or 16, then her husband dying when she was around 20. Took to the seas for 10 years, at least, and then the extra years just for some leeway - I doubt she went straight from widow to pirate queen. I'd say she was 30 or 31 by the first Act, leaving her at 33/4 by the end of the second Act and 37/8 by the Second Battle of Kirkwall.
Fenris - His sister strikes me as being around 25, and the younger of the two. I wouldn't count on him as being in his twenties. I would speculate around 32 when he is first encountered, leaving him old enough at the finale to really want to live somewhere stable.
Sebastian - We know that he is at least 28 by Act III, making him at least 21 for Act I. However, I'd give him at least seven years from the bow conversation to the Chantry - he was a young man, impulsive and rash, when he entered the Chantry. I'd say that by Act III, he was at least 33-34 (I see him as younger than Anders), and therefore near 26/7 in Act I.
Anders - From Awakening, I would have guessed 27/8. By DA:II, when we meet him, it's still 9.31, the same year that the Blight and Mother (and Architect, if so) were defeated. He hasn't been a Warden for longer than a year, so the Blight probably hasn't aged him much. I'd say, however, that my assessment of him in Awakening was a bit young. I'd put him at around 30-33 in Act I, just old enough to refer to Hawke as little boy/girl even if Hawke is 25. This would put him as being 37-40 by the finale, an age at which he can accept dying for his actions.

Okay, WAY lengthier than I intended, my apologies. Thank you for your time if you read all the way through this. 

Edit: Bolded so the names don't drown.:innocent:

I agree with you on a lot, though I would say that if Fenris's sister looked about 25 by Act 3, then Fenris would be somewhere around 30 (give or take) in act 3. Shouldn't be that many years between them. Of course, the age different could be more than just a handful of years ... but making Fenris 32 at the start, would make him almost 40 Act 3, which would be more than 10 years older than his sister, if she's ~25. 

So I would say that maybe Fenris was around 25 in Act one, and around 30 by Act 3. He struck me as too insecure to be above 30 at the beginning of the game ... though I guess having your memory wiped might do that to you ... still felt like he started out in his mid-twenties, though. 

[mesmerizedish]

Taura-Tierno wrote...

I agree with you on a lot, though I would say that if Fenris's sister looked about 25 by Act 3, then Fenris would be somewhere around 30 (give or take) in act 3. Shouldn't be that many years between them. Of course, the age different could be more than just a handful of years ... but making Fenris 32 at the start, would make him almost 40 Act 3, which would be more than 10 years older than his sister, if she's ~25.

Or his sister could be the elder of the two

[bushes289]

About Fenris, you have to remember that he obviously looks much older than he really is. His hair is white and looking at his eyebrows it's obvious that it wasn't always white, it was turned white by the stress of the markings. So it's safe to say that the stress of his life also caused him to age prematurely.

I'd put him at 22-24 at the begining, because he was obviously relatively young when he received the markings, probably 15ish because he was naive enough to believe that freedom would be a good thing for his family, not realizing that they would have no way to support themselves and would be lucky not to wind up as beggars. He probably wasn't old enough to even realize what freedom really was, he grew up as a slave after all. It also means that he would have served Danarius for about 6 years, which is definitely a long enough time. Plus I always thought his sister was the older one, ah well.

As for Ander, he seriously calls Hawke a little boy/girl if you threaten him? His romance sudenly became a bit... creepy.

/somewhat sarcastic, somewhat actually creeped out.

Modifié par bushes289, 24 mars 2011 - 05:47 .

[Teramore]

This seems quite off-topic but How old do you guys think Leliana is by the end of the game? She's been around for quite a long time you know. Should she be close to late 30s

[HolyJellyfish]

I was always under the impression that Malcolm and Leandra eloped because she was pregnant with Hawke.

Hawke : 24/25.
Bethany/Carver: 18
Varric: 30.
Aveline: 30
Isabela: 28
Anders: 28 (Yes. I really think he is quite young. The Little Girl comment isn't evidence enough for me. Mind you, I'm thinking of the Anders I met in Awakenings. He was too immature to be in his 30s.)
Fenris: 25
Merrill: 23
Sebastian: 28.

Mind you, they all age six - seven years through the game.

[Mr Plow]

Teramore wrote...

This seems quite off-topic but How old do you guys think Leliana is by the end of the game? She's been around for quite a long time you know. Should she be close to late 30s

the end is probably 10 years after Origins or so. I would say she'd be around 34-36

[mireisen]

So...did Isabela and Zevran do the hanky when she was 13-15 then? Oh man...

[ejoslin]

mireisen wrote...

So...did Isabela and Zevran do the hanky when she was 13-15 then? Oh man...

Since he's likely younger than she is, I doubt it.  He didn't kill her husband when she was a newlywed.

[hoorayforicecream]

mireisen wrote...

So...did Isabela and Zevran do the hanky when she was 13-15 then? Oh man...

Remember that she was sold at a likely young age to be the man's wife, and that the hanky probably happened with her husband then. I'd also venture a guess that Zevran probably performed the assassination around Isabela being ~15-16 years old.

[Masako52]

I agree with most of the ages, but Fenris struck me as younger than most of you guys are posting. I don't really think he looks that old. It's hard to tell with elves, but I pegged him at early 20s.

[Silveryne]

Judging by how Momma Hawke mentions running away 25 years ago after the start of Act 1, I'd guess that Hawke is around 23 then, and ends the game around 29.
Bethany and Carver are 19 in Act 1.
The others, with the exception of Aveline, could be anywhere. Aveline I felt was 29 or 30 at the start of act 1 Old enough to act as an older sister to Hawke, but young enough so there wasn't a complete disconnect.

[Rubyfair]

bushes289 wrote...

As for Ander, he seriously calls Hawke a little boy/girl if you threaten him? His romance sudenly became a bit... creepy.

/somewhat sarcastic, somewhat actually creeped out.

Creepy? I think you mean that a rivalmance with Anders just got much more sexy >:3

HolyJellyfish wrote...

I was always under the impression that Malcolm and Leandra eloped because she was pregnant with Hawke.

Hawke : 24/25.
Bethany/Carver: 18
Varric: 30.
Aveline: 30
Isabela: 28
Anders: 28 (Yes. I really think he is quite young. The Little Girl comment isn't evidence enough for me. Mind you, I'm thinking of the Anders I met in Awakenings. He was too immature to be in his 30s.)
Fenris: 25
Merrill: 23
Sebastian: 28.

I think your guesses are closest to home for me.

For me I'd say:
Hawke: 20-25
Bethany/Carver: 18
Varric: 26/27
Aveline: 27/28
Isabela: 28-32
Anders: 27/28
Fenris: 25
Merrill: 21-23
Sebastian: 26-28

Anders still seems immature to me like he was in Awakening, just in a
different way. In Awakening he was a free-spirit and selfish, now
he's hot headed and rebellious. Even at the end his actions seem to
be those of someone who's more desperate than excepting and all
knowing. Anders comes across as though he wishes he was more wise,
like he wishes he knew what to do to free mages, but he doesn't and
it frustrates him. At the end it seems like he's just settling on
that plan of attack, he clearly wasn't as confident in his actions as
he acted, and he certainly didn't seem truly excepting of
death. 

Speaking of Fenris' pain wearing on his
appearances makes me wonder, could those engravings possibly be a
hazard to his health? I thought they said in Origins that extreme
exposure to lyrium can be fatal, I could be imagining that though. It
also makes me wonder why exactly his markings hurt him. Does the
lyrium heat up when he has intense emotions? Are they reeking havoc
on his body?

Aveline
is a big sister type and protector through and through, though I
don't think that necessary mean she needs to be older. 

I see a lot of people throwing 30 out there for Varric. While he didn't
seem quite that old to me, its not like I have solid proof dismissing
it. I could say that his unwillingness to take over the family
business and him running away from his duties shows that he's still
juvenile. Then again, that could just be typical Varric. I could
easily seem him never growing into that role.

I definitely think Isabela was younger when she was sold away. Though I
would say older than 13, but not by much. 

Just some random thoughts from a tired girl speaking at 2 am. ◉︵◉

Modifié par Rubyfair, 25 mars 2011 - 06:44 .

[koshiee]

 Hawke is in his 20s?   
in the preset models they made he looks a lot older but i guess living on the run ages you a lot. And carver looks pretty rough as well. 

[Rubyfair]

Its weird how Carver seems so much older than Bethany to me, yet they're twins.

[IncendiarySheep]

HolyJellyfish wrote...
Anders: 28 (Yes. I really think he is quite young. The Little Girl comment isn't evidence enough for me. Mind you, I'm thinking of the Anders I met in Awakenings. He was too immature to be in his 30s.).

Heh. My friendship group consists entirely of folks in their 30s (where did the time go?!) and I couldn’t claim that we’re all more mature than Awakenings Anders.  But then, none of us have been through what he has, so the comparison is probably not fair!

Still, for what it’s worth, in Act I of my game (and assuming we’re talking about the ages being comparible to 21st century equivalents and not medieval ages):

Bethany/Carver: 18. They are still kids.
Merrill: 21 or elf equivalent.  Old enough to have proven herself and had real responsibilities, but still idealistic and stubborn and convinced she knows it all.
Hawke: 24. Leandra treats her quite differently to the twins and clearly places a lot of responsibility on her shoulders.  She needs to be quite a bit older to justify that different treatment.  I also love the thought that Leandra and Malcolm were so romantic and idealistic that they (whether by choice or not) started a family as soon as they eloped.  Reality hit hard and they waited several years before trying that again.
Sebastian: About 27 in the opening Act.  He’s been through his wild boy phase, is now into his devotedly religious phase, and then moves into his ‘what will I do with the rest of my life’ quarter life crisis. The hairline also indicates that he is not a young man.
Isabella: 27.  I figure she married very young – I agree with the 13 or 14 suggested earlier.  Being sold so lyoung, and her consequent early loss of innocence, explains her very flamboyant attitude to sexual relationships and her disregard for long term commitment.  She got the kind of confidence one doesn’t usually get until their late 20s.  She could be a lot older than 27, I suppose, but I doubt she'd ever admit to anyone
Fenris: 28 - 30.  He’s been througte 20s or early 30s. h a lot and it’s hard to place him.    I could really put Fenris as anything up to about 35, but he’s still filled with a lot of anger and impulsiveness, so late 20s seems feasible. He probably doesn’t know anyway.
Aveline: 29.  She’s clearly quite a bit older than Hawke.  She’s given the captain position within a year of arriving in Kirkwall, and I doubt they would hand that kind of title over to someone in their early 20s.  She pulls the role off well, so she would have to have had quite a bit of experience and gravitas behind her.  By Act 2 she’s interested in settling down again, and by Act 3 her and Donnic are clearly talking about children and having dinner parties, and mid 30s would seem about the right age for those things to become important to a career woman of her standing. 
Anders: 30.  Anders is drawn with lines around his eyes, which most of the other characters aren’t, so I don’t think he’s meant to be a spring chicken (although it’s plausible that a life on the run and the charming slum air has just been hard on his skin).  He was quite immature in Awakenings, but that seems quite typical of circle-raised mages – it’s not like they get many opportunities to make the kind of big decisions that force one to grow up.  By the end of Act 3, he seems very tired, and over it, without the will to fight you'd find in someone still in their 20s.  Anders reminds me a bit of some of my more political friends who were idealists in their early 20s, got a shock when they hit the real world in the their mid-20s, and have settled into a hardened cynicism now they’re in their 30s.
Varric: 32.  He's confident, cunning, and he's had enough time to build up contacts and make plans.  He's also experienced enough that he can recognise talent when he sees it (Hello, Hawke).  He's quite responsible - surprisingly so - when it comes to his friends and family, and he's got his eye on the future.  He occasionally even seems a bit paternal, especially with my femHawke and with Merril and Anders. Flamboyent clothing aside, I really can't see him as any younger than his early 30s.

Modifié par IncendiarySheep, 09 avril 2011 - 08:03 .

[luuney]

Teramore wrote...

This seems quite off-topic but How old do you guys think Leliana is by the end of the game? She's been around for quite a long time you know. Should she be close to late 30s

According to the DA Toolset, if you open Leliana's character tab, she's 26 at the time during DA:O.

[Ambeth]

Autodoll wrote...

*snip*


Sebastian - We know that he is at least 28 by Act III, making him at least 21 for Act I. However, I'd give him at least seven years from the bow conversation to the Chantry - he was a young man, impulsive and rash, when he entered the Chantry. I'd say that by Act III, he was at least 33-34 (I see him as younger than Anders), and therefore near 26/7 in Act I.
*snip*
Gamlen - Younger than Leandra, but old enough to have formed an opinion on her romantic choices. I'd say he's around 5-7 years younger than Leandra; around 41-43 according to my personal playthrough, 16-18 when Leandra ran away and 22-24 when his parents die, young enough to be resentful of his wasted time caring for them and to blow away all their money on bad habits.
*snip*

From what Elthina and Sebastian himself says, he really can't be less than 26 in Act 1.  Elthina mentions he's been in the Chantry 'nearly 10 years now' and Sebastian mentions being in the Chantry for 15 years in Act 3.  He also talks about drinking and a long string of lovers before joining the Chantry (to Isabela, but this is also talked about in his short story on his character page).  I seriously doubt all THAT happened before he was at least 16 and probably took at least a year, you know?  So I would put him at 28 or more in Act 1.

As for Gamlen, I am pretty sure he mentions being only a year younger than his sister, but that she already had their parents wrapped around her fingers.

[Astranagant]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

I was always under the impression that Malcolm and Leandra eloped because she was pregnant with Hawke.

Why? She eloped because she wanted to live her life with him, not because she got knocked up. To imply that is to imply that she didn't want to marry him but was forced to even though for a noble it would be much easier to dump the baby on a servant, relatives, an orphanage or even just abandon or kill it to save face.

[Blackout62]

koshiee wrote...

 Hawke is in his 20s?   
in the preset models they made he looks a lot older but i guess living on the run ages you a lot. And carver looks pretty rough as well. 

Rubyfair wrote...

Its weird how Carver seems so much older than Bethany to me, yet they're twins.

I'd gather that the Hawke men do not age well. And by that I mean solely the Hawke men, Gamlen actually looks pretty young for a 40/50 something degenerate.

Now in act 1...
Hawke: 21 to 24, the whole Leandra eloping 25 years ago point everyone else made. Specifically I imagine the Hawkes I made to be 22. Old enough to act like to start acting like an adult but still having fragements of teen spirit. Wisened college graduate is the idea here.
Siblings: 19, explicitly stated
Aveline: late 20s in act 1. Married Wesley at a young age, etc.
Merrill: 20-21 clearly older than the siblings but younger than the majority of the party.
Sebastian: Same age as Hawke? That face is way to smooth for me to believe he's in his late 20s as of act 1. Also I imagine he went through his debauchery phase for only 3-4, long enough to learn that life but not long enough to get street savvy or enjoy it to the Isabela level.
Iabela: Clearly one of the older party members just by her own comments. I'd posit not much older than Aveline but younger than Varric. Late 20s to Early 30s.
Fenris: Ooh I like the idea of Fenris in his mid-20s. Makes it so he's not entirely brooding and there's actually some experience there.
Anders: Mid-20s, same idea as Fenris.
Varric: late 20s to late 30s. The character is certainly ageless.

Modifié par Blackout62, 09 avril 2011 - 07:52 .

[DoNotIngest]

It's stated that Merrill was taken from her family at the age of 4, at one of the meetings of all Dalish clans that occur every decade. She says she hasn't seen her family for 10 years when you meet her; Obviously she isn't 14, so she must be 24 when you meet her. Which fits for me. You don't have to be young to retain innocence; She's inexperienced, but very intelligent.

[Mr.House]

Hawke: 20 to 25
Carver/Beth: 18
Isabela: late twenties/early thirties
Aveline: middle thirties
Anders: middle twenties
Fenris: early twenties
Varric: 30
Seb: late twenties