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[ianhealy]

Ok, first off, I've only started on the Mass Effect novels in the past 2 weeks. I finished Ascension last night, and Retribution should be arriving this week. Also, the 4th book mentions Gillian Grayson learning to understand and control her powers, and it's released before Mass Effect 3.

I'm still a little hazy on the timeline, but could Gillian Grayson be our Jack in Mass Effect 3? She's young, with the potential to be an amazingly powerful biotic. I'd love to see a true crossover with the novels.

However, as I said, the timeline is a bit hazy to me, but I'm sure a lot of you guys know more than I do.

From what I understand, Gillian is age 12/13 around the events of Sovereign attacking the Citadel. But, Gillian will be "busy" for 4 or 5 years (No spoilers!). Mass Effect 2 takes place 2 years after Sovereign's attack (right?). Could there possibly be a 2/3 year gap between Mass Effect 2 and 3? I'd say it's highly unlikely, considering the Reapers were already on their way at the end of Mass Effect 2. Maybe they're just really, really, really, really, really far away

With the 4th novel coming out before Mass Effect 3, it's really not going to deal with a time after the Reapers have been taken care of. So, surely the timelines must tie in. Maybe Gillian comes back early? Maybe Shepard hunts her down for a squadmate? 

Or, maybe she'll have nothing to do with Mass Effect 3. I just found it strange that the next novel is coming out a month or two before the game, seems like a prequel to meeeee

[Darth Death]

I hope not. I'm over the "building your squad" mentality. Reapers please.

[Rivercurse]

Where have you seen a blurb about Deception?

I thought all we had was an author and a release date..

[aimlessgun]

I can see it. Has potential to be a solid character.

Darth Death wrote...

I hope not. I'm over the "building your squad" mentality. Reapers please.

<_< You know as well as the rest of us that there will be new squadmates.

[ianhealy]

Rivercurse wrote...

Where have you seen a blurb about Deception?

I thought all we had was an author and a release date..

Gorge on this, my friend

http://www.bookdepos...-Deception-v.-4

This novel continues the all-new, completely original story begun in the
first three MASS EFFECT stories. The heroine, Gillian, was once the
subject of horrifying scientific experiments, but now, after her rescue,
she is beginning to master her amazing powers. But when she falls under
the sway of a radical group who believes their powers make them
superior to ordinary humans, she finds herself faced with a choice
between her destiny ...and her humanity.

[Rivercurse]

Interesting..

[The Shadow Broker]

new squadmate, the brit sniper dude camped inside big ben tower from the trailer, maybe another one in trouble that helps shepard as reward for coming rescue his loved ones..etc

dont think we have to cross the whole galaxy searching for some badass dude to join team, that was too ME2

[ianhealy]

The Shadow Broker wrote...

new squadmate, the brit sniper dude camped inside big ben tower from the trailer, maybe another one in trouble that helps shepard as reward for coming rescue his loved ones..etc

dont think we have to cross the whole galaxy searching for some badass dude to join team, that was too ME2

I'd have to disagree.

With the results of the suicide mission transferring over, you could be left with a full squad, or nobody. I don't think that Bioware will be keeping the exact same squad from ME2, and they probably won't be doing a campaign's length of dialogue recording for all the old squadmates and the new ones.

I'd say it'll go like this: If your whole team survives, some will leave at the beginning of the campaign any way. If they died in the final mission, same outcome. Some of the squad will have a little bit of dialogue, and then disappear from the game.

I don't know what to think about the sniper guy. He could be a squadmate, he could be a replacement Shepard if he died during the suicide mission, or he could have nothing to do with the plot.

However, if we have new squadmates, I'd say traversing the galaxy to find the best people is more important now than ever. The Collectors? Pffft. These are REAPURRRRRZ 

[Fiery Phoenix]

ianhealy wrote...

Gorge on this, my friend

http://www.bookdepos...-Deception-v.-4

This novel continues the all-new, completely original story begun in the
first three MASS EFFECT stories. The heroine, Gillian, was once the
subject of horrifying scientific experiments, but now, after her rescue,
she is beginning to master her amazing powers. But when she falls under
the sway of a radical group who believes their powers make them
superior to ordinary humans, she finds herself faced with a choice
between her destiny ...and her humanity.

Wow, that's very interesting! Thanks for posting!

[Babli]

ianhealy wrote...

This novel continues the all-new, completely original story begun in the
first three MASS EFFECT stories. The heroine, Gillian, was once the
subject of horrifying scientific experiments, but now, after her rescue,
she is beginning to master her amazing powers. But when she falls under
the sway of a radical group who believes their powers make them
superior to ordinary humans, she finds herself faced with a choice
between her destiny ...and her humanity.

But..but...(Ascension Spoiler) wasnt she with the Quarians after Ascension? On space ship that is searching for a new homeworld and has provision for 5 years? Why would she left? Or how could someone take her? I hope this will have proper explanation...

[Silmane]

I honestly feel like the game shouldn't add very many new squadmates. On a more personal note, I'm fairly confident my two remaining characters will be in my team at the beginning of ME3(obviously assuming right now).

Shepard, Garrus and Legion against the Reapers, baby. That's all I need.

[Rivercurse]

ianhealy wrote...

 he could be a replacement Shepard if he died during the suicide mission,

If Shepard dies in ME2 you can't inport that save.

[Silmane]

Um...the guy in the clocktower thing being Shepard? Are you serious? Shepard is shown at the end of the trailer. lol TWO SHEPARDS

[FDrage]

as much as I would like to see some characters from the book in the game, for me it would also be nice to have some characters not in the game making them more unique, letting them keep a bit of a distance to use shaping the story and the universe, some kind of constant.

On the other side, the "quarian deep space exploration vessel that was in search of the technology that allowed Saren to control Geth" is something that could very well have an impact on the story of ME3. Form that point of view it would make sense,

[ianhealy]

Rivercurse wrote...

ianhealy wrote...

 he could be a replacement Shepard if he died during the suicide mission,

If Shepard dies in ME2 you can't inport that save.

I think you can import it, to reflect your final mission, but obviously then you need a new protagonist. (Or MOAR Cerberus resurrection)

Babli wrote...

But..but...(Ascension
Spoiler) wasnt she with the Quarians after Ascension? On space ship
that is searching for a new homeworld and has provision for 5 years? Why
would she left? Or how could someone take her? I hope this will have
proper explanation...

Yeah, that's my timeline problem. At first I thought there was no way they could cross paths, but this book comes out before the game, so obviously it can't deal with anything after ME3 (Reapers defeated/all organic life exterminated )

She must get off the ship early, or the Reapers don't actually arrive for another 2 years.... just how far away is dark space? 

Silmane wrote...

Um...the guy in the clocktower thing
being Shepard? Are you serious? Shepard is shown at the end of the
trailer. lol TWO SHEPARDS

Yeah, I know. But, if Shepard died, someone else needs to take over. It's unlikely to be some randomer. It'll probably be someone who is basically a sidekick if Shepard survives, or takes over if Shepard died. THIS IS ALL VERY CONFUSING

Modifié par ianhealy, 23 mars 2011 - 01:00 .

[Silmane]

ianhealy wrote...

Rivercurse wrote...

ianhealy wrote...

 he could be a replacement Shepard if he died during the suicide mission,

If Shepard dies in ME2 you can't inport that save.

I think you can import it, to reflect your final mission, but obviously then you need a new protagonist. (Or MOAR Cerberus resurrection)

Babli wrote...

But..but...(Ascension
Spoiler) wasnt she with the Quarians after Ascension? On space ship
that is searching for a new homeworld and has provision for 5 years? Why
would she left? Or how could someone take her? I hope this will have
proper explanation...

Yeah, that's my timeline problem. At first I thought there was no way they could cross paths, but this book comes out before the game, so obviously it can't deal with anything after ME3 (Reapers defeated/all organic life exterminated )

She must get off the ship early, or the Reapers don't actually arrive for another 2 years.... just how far away is dark space? 

Silmane wrote...

Um...the guy in the clocktower thing
being Shepard? Are you serious? Shepard is shown at the end of the
trailer. lol TWO SHEPARDS

Yeah, I know. But, if Shepard died, someone else needs to take over. It's unlikely to be some randomer. It'll probably be someone who is basically a sidekick if Shepard survives, or takes over if Shepard died. THIS IS ALL VERY CONFUSING

No, dude, it's been confirmed that you can't import if Shepard dies in ME2. That save is done. Gone. You would restart canon Sheploo or Jane Shep fresh. 

[Rivercurse]

Nope, no importing of saves where Shepard died, period.

[ianhealy]

Silmane wrote...

No, dude, it's been confirmed that you can't import if Shepard dies in ME2. That save is done. Gone. You would restart canon Sheploo or Jane Shep fresh. 

SERIOUSLY? WOW. That's really, really lame.

"Dead is dead. Mass Effect 3, as with the rest of the trilogy, is
Shepard’s story. If you have a dead Shepard at the end of Mass Effect 2,
that saved game won’t import into Mass Effect 3. You can play Mass
Effect 3 if you died in Mass Effect 2 of course, but you’ll have to
create a new Shepard. Harsh? Yes. But we wouldn’t be serious about the
concept of a suicide mission if you couldn’t die and your death didn’t
have serious consequences."

Dead is dead. NO RESPAWNING.

I didn't know this. I'm actually pretty disappointed. I thought that, if Shepard died, he actually died, and we needed a new protagonist or he needed to be resurrected again somehow.

[Silmane]

ianhealy wrote...

Silmane wrote...

No, dude, it's been confirmed that you can't import if Shepard dies in ME2. That save is done. Gone. You would restart canon Sheploo or Jane Shep fresh. 

SERIOUSLY? WOW. That's really, really lame.

"Dead is dead. Mass Effect 3, as with the rest of the trilogy, is
Shepard’s story. If you have a dead Shepard at the end of Mass Effect 2,
that saved game won’t import into Mass Effect 3. You can play Mass
Effect 3 if you died in Mass Effect 2 of course, but you’ll have to
create a new Shepard. Harsh? Yes. But we wouldn’t be serious about the
concept of a suicide mission if you couldn’t die and your death didn’t
have serious consequences."

Dead is dead. NO RESPAWNING.

I didn't know this. I'm actually pretty disappointed. I thought that, if Shepard died, he actually died, and we needed a new protagonist or he needed to be resurrected again somehow.

I'm not trying to insult you or anything like that, but you're smokin' a lot of something I want if you thought Shepard was gonna be replaced in the conclusion of the trilogy this team's been working on since 2005. 

That ending in ME2 was just there for people who really really really screwed up. It's not hard to get it, but you pretty much have to do the bare bones missions and pick all the wrong choices in the suicide mission. There's no way they'd let that run into ME3. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

It's not lame at all. This is Shepard's story. If she dies at the end of ME2, the story simply ceases to continue. She's the pivotal figure of the plot. Without her, there is no Mass Effect -- at least as far as the trilogy goes.

[Halfdan The Menace]

I prefer a female German soldier

~psst..,Bundeswehr is part of the Alliance Navy right?

[rabidsmurf]

Maybe Gillian Grayson is our new Shep in the next series of Mass Effect. Ha ha ha. Now the argument will be Man-Grayson doesn't exist. lol

[ianhealy]

Silmane wrote...

I'm not trying to insult you or anything like that, but you're smokin' a lot of something I want if you thought Shepard was gonna be replaced in the conclusion of the trilogy this team's been working on since 2005. 

That ending in ME2 was just there for people who really really really screwed up. It's not hard to get it, but you pretty much have to do the bare bones missions and pick all the wrong choices in the suicide mission. There's no way they'd let that run into ME3. 

Well, I thought that would have been the proper repercussion. It would have been a true continuation. Now, it's just like "LOL SHEPARD DIDN'T REALLY DIE. HE'S JUST VANILLA AGAIN"

Epic troll, Bioware.

Obviously Casey Hudson disagrees, but for me, Mass Effect isn't just about Shepard's story, it's about the whole game universe

[Fiery Phoenix]

ianhealy wrote...

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Obviously Casey Hudson disagrees, but for me, Mass Effect isn't just about Shepard's story, it's about the whole game universe

Mass Effect as a whole isn't Shepard's story; the original trilogy, that is, ME1, ME2, and ME3, IS Shepard's story. Simple as that.

[Silmane]

ianhealy wrote...

Silmane wrote...

I'm not trying to insult you or anything like that, but you're smokin' a lot of something I want if you thought Shepard was gonna be replaced in the conclusion of the trilogy this team's been working on since 2005. 

That ending in ME2 was just there for people who really really really screwed up. It's not hard to get it, but you pretty much have to do the bare bones missions and pick all the wrong choices in the suicide mission. There's no way they'd let that run into ME3. 

Well, I thought that would have been the proper repercussion. It would have been a true continuation. Now, it's just like "LOL SHEPARD DIDN'T REALLY DIE. HE'S JUST VANILLA AGAIN"

Epic troll, Bioware.

Obviously Casey Hudson disagrees, but for me, Mass Effect isn't just about Shepard's story, it's about the whole game universe

Well, you have to have single character that's constant through all three games. I'm not sure if removing Shepard would kill ME3, but I would not play it. Not only that, most of the people who played ME2 don't even know that you can get Shepard killed. I posted a video on youtube just recently(Year after ME2 came out) and a lot of the people I've shown it too didn't even know. 


So ya, there's no way they would record voices, animations, etc for a new character. Just isn't happening. lol