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[ianhealy]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

ianhealy wrote...

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Obviously Casey Hudson disagrees, but for me, Mass Effect isn't just about Shepard's story, it's about the whole game universe

Mass Effect as a whole isn't Shepard's story; the original trilogy, that is, ME1, ME2, and ME3, IS Shepard's story. Simple as that.

The only reason I did a playthrough to get everyone killed was to see just how Bioware could handle it in Mass Effect 3, if the main protagonist had died.

Mass Effect 3 will have 1,000 variables, based on decision from the past 3 games, but they'll simply ignore the fact that you got the main character killed. I assumed that they had the guts to follow through on their warning about the suicide mission. Starting a new Shepard doesn't seem like that much of a punishment.

Then again, they'd have to write 2 separate campaigns if this was to happen. Shepard defeating the Reapers, Shepard losing, *new protagonist* defeating the Reapers, *new protagonist* losing. I guess I was just really hoping that there'd be true repercussions for getting Shepard killed

Anyway, this thread had gone waaaay off-topic, basically it's just you guys giving me shocking revelations

Would anyone be opposed to me requesting that this gets locked, and I start a new thread, with valid information this time? <3

[Fiery Phoenix]

I'm actually quite surprised you weren't aware; Casey Hudson declared that a dead Shepard won't be importable to ME3 long before ME2 even came out. It was pretty much common knowledge by the time ME2 was released.

[Tennessee88]

All Graysons shall get a tour of the airlock.

[FDrage]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I'm actually quite surprised you weren't aware; Casey Hudson declared that a dead Shepard won't be importable to ME3 long before ME2 even came out. It was pretty much common knowledge by the time ME2 was released.

the imperssion I got from way back there is, while you can't import sheppard you can import the decisions and while you won't be able to play as your Shepard in that case you will be playing as a Shepard.

[Fiery Phoenix]

FDrage wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I'm actually quite surprised you weren't aware; Casey Hudson declared that a dead Shepard won't be importable to ME3 long before ME2 even came out. It was pretty much common knowledge by the time ME2 was released.

the imperssion I got from way back there is, while you can't import sheppard you can import the decisions and while you won't be able to play as your Shepard in that case you will be playing as a Shepard.

That's what everyone thought originally, but Casey did explicitly say that a dead Shepard means the story is over at some point, which was sometime before ME2's release during one of his numerous interviews back then.

[ianhealy]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I'm actually quite surprised you weren't aware; Casey Hudson declared that a dead Shepard won't be importable to ME3 long before ME2 even came out. It was pretty much common knowledge by the time ME2 was released.

That would explain it. I only truly fell in love with Mass Effect when I played the 2nd game. (Now, I have "The Art Of Mass Effect" on it's way from America Thanks, eBay! <3)

I know everyone here is saying "I wouldn't play it if Shepard was gone". In my idyllic world, I imagined 2 separate campaigns. One with Shepard, and one if Shepard died. Anyway, enough arguing

Thanks for the facts!

So, will I get this locked/deleted, and start a thread about GILLIAN? 

[Kaiser Shepard]

Good to see the 4th novel has Gillian in an importal role again; I sort of missed her during Retribution. And yeah, she does seem to have been intended as a future squaddie from the very beginning.

[UKStory135]

She's probably a little young, at most she will be 16 years old. I'd rather have Kai Leng as a squad mate.

[Zulu_DFA]

Wasn't Gillian supposed to be autistic?

I mean, she might be a biotic prodigy, but also likely blow herself up with a grenade if you give her one?

[heretica]

UKStory135 wrote...

She's probably a little young, at most she will be 16 years old. I'd rather have Kai Leng as a squad mate.

Kai Leng for LI.


jk.


edit: crap, i quoted the wrong person.

Modifié par Catt128, 23 mars 2011 - 02:25 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Wasn't Gillian supposed to be autistic?

I mean, she might be a biotic prodigy, but also likely blow herself up with a grenade if you give her one?

I'm more curious about led her to split from Hendel. She was supposed to be under his constant supervision and as far away in the galaxy as possible.

[aimlessgun]

ianhealy wrote...

Mass Effect 3 will have 1,000 variables, based on decision from the past 3 games, but they'll simply ignore the fact that you got the main character killed.

The point is, if Shep dies, there is no import. His story is over. Finished. If you choose to play ME3, you will not be playing in that universe. You will be playing in an alternate universe where Shepard survived the suicide mission, either from an import that actually survived, or piggybacking off the 'canon' story

[Seraphithan]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Wasn't Gillian supposed to be autistic?

I mean, she might be a biotic prodigy, but also likely blow herself up with a grenade if you give her one?

Well it is not clear how severe her autism is without Cerberuses tempering. Add in some type of miracle cure for lighter cases of autism and she wouldn't be more likely to blow your squad up than any other civilian. Probably less likely since using biotics deliberatly requires a high degree of discipline.

[Lunatic LK47]

Seraphithan wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Wasn't Gillian supposed to be autistic?

I mean, she might be a biotic prodigy, but also likely blow herself up with a grenade if you give her one?

Well it is not clear how severe her autism is without Cerberuses tempering. Add in some type of miracle cure for lighter cases of autism and she wouldn't be more likely to blow your squad up than any other civilian. Probably less likely since using biotics deliberatly requires a high degree of discipline.

Might as well create a thread for wanting a brain-damaged Lou Ferrigno while we're at it (yeah, a certain Reb Brown movie I'm referring to)

[Darth Wraith]

I really hope we're past the recruitment stage by the time ME3 rolls by. We spent 3/4 of ME2 putting the team together; been there, done that.

[aimlessgun]

Darth Wraith wrote...

I really hope we're past the recruitment stage by the time ME3 rolls by. We spent 3/4 of ME2 putting the team together; been there, done that.

Like I said on page 1...people don't seriously think there won't be new squadmates, right?

[Raizo]

Darth Death wrote...

I hope not. I'm over the "building your squad" mentality. Reapers please.

Same Here.

I also have an aversion to children protaganists in video games. No matter how you try to package it I'm not going to be able to get behind the idea of Shepard alowing an Autistic child/teenager to run around a battle field and get shot at.

[Inquisitor Recon]

No, I already got more competent people to do the task of tossing biotic blobs while the people with guns do the real work.

[ianhealy]

Sgt. Drifter wrote...

I'd rather doubt it would happen. The only reason preventing this, in my opinion, is because having children, in games that can die is just bad for business (that is assuming that you and your team can die in Mass Effect 3). Why is that you may ask? It is simply because society, in general, rejects it as a cruel, inhumane idea. Just look at the response the Dead Island trailer got from some people. Even if everyone that plays it is okay with having it in there; if people outside think it is bad, it would make the developers look bad. An example would be what happened to the one college professor in one class. Yes, it was a completely different topic, but the same general thing could happen (Note to moderators: This is an example, I am not trying to bring up subjects against the Code of Conduct). All in all it would be better for BioWare to play it safe and not include Gillian in the game.

She'd be a teenager/young adult in Mass Effect 3

Modifié par ianhealy, 23 mars 2011 - 11:49 .

[DaVanguard]

^13 in acsension, 15 by retribution then possibly 2-3? years older by deception?

[Darth Death]

aimlessgun wrote...

Darth Wraith wrote...

I really hope we're past the recruitment stage by the time ME3 rolls by. We spent 3/4 of ME2 putting the team together; been there, done that.

Like I said on page 1...people don't seriously think there won't be new squadmates, right?

Unfortunately yes, there probably will be new squad mates, but the only thing I'm hoping for is that BioWare does not overemphasis on recruitment solely. Lets focus more on the reaper's identity and origin instead of, "Hey, lets keep on recruiting till the reapers destroys us all." 

Modifié par Darth Death, 23 mars 2011 - 11:22 .

[merrick97]

ianhealy wrote...

Silmane wrote...

No, dude, it's been confirmed that you can't import if Shepard dies in ME2. That save is done. Gone. You would restart canon Sheploo or Jane Shep fresh. 

SERIOUSLY? WOW. That's really, really lame.

"Dead is dead. Mass Effect 3, as with the rest of the trilogy, is
Shepard’s story. If you have a dead Shepard at the end of Mass Effect 2,
that saved game won’t import into Mass Effect 3. You can play Mass
Effect 3 if you died in Mass Effect 2 of course, but you’ll have to
create a new Shepard. Harsh? Yes. But we wouldn’t be serious about the
concept of a suicide mission if you couldn’t die and your death didn’t
have serious consequences."

Dead is dead. NO RESPAWNING.

I didn't know this. I'm actually pretty disappointed. I thought that, if Shepard died, he actually died, and we needed a new protagonist or he needed to be resurrected again somehow.

Yes, its only been repeated 1000 times on these forums and news sites everywhere.

If Shepard didnt survive you cannot import the save.  No ifs ands or buts.  

Why anyone would want to continue a game in which shepard died is beyond me anyway.

[Soahfreako]

Guys. Don't hold your breath for Deception. Honestly. I just finished reading Dietz's latest book "Heaven's Devils" and was not impressed. The book was good, but that's what I'd expect from someone writing a book about one of my favorite games. But Drew, MAN was he good. Dietz on the other hand.... not so much. I'm fully expecting to be disappointed by Deception but am buying it anyway because it's Mass Effect.

[aimlessgun]

If Dietz is bad compared to workmanlike and serviceable Drew, that's no good :/

Darth Death wrote...

aimlessgun wrote...

Darth Wraith wrote...

I really hope we're past the recruitment stage by the time ME3 rolls by. We spent 3/4 of ME2 putting the team together; been there, done that.

Like I said on page 1...people don't seriously think there won't be new squadmates, right?

Unfortunately yes, there probably will be new squad mates, but the only thing I'm hoping for is that BioWare does not overemphasis on recruitment solely. Lets focus more on the reaper's identity and origin instead of, "Hey, lets keep on recruiting till the reapers destroys us all." 

I think you can have a good amount of new squaddies without emphasing recruitment at all. None of the ME1 squadmates felt like I had to go much out of my way to 'recruit'.

Modifié par aimlessgun, 24 mars 2011 - 01:41 .