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#151
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M-G-D wrote...

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Thanks to the similarity to English, you can make out the national and socialist part of it, so nothing to clarify here.


No, I coujld make out the words German and National, neither of which was clear as to what was meant. So, yes, clarification was needed.

Perfect example of why Bioware feels the need to dumb down make their games more accessible.


HAHAHHAAHAHHAHHHAAHAA, lol.

And BW fanboys are the real fanatics. 

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Well now I took my time to read the review properly and while he does have some good points I do not feel he quite manages to reach the level of score that the game really deserves.

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Merkwürdigliebe wrote...

Well now I took my time to read the review properly and while he does have some good points I do not feel he quite manages to reach the level of score that the game really deserves.


It is his opinion, the game deserves whatever it gets.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

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That's because DAO was an amazing game, not many other games have that kind of depth anymore and that high level of interaction. 

Bioware is obviously declaring war on us, to arms my brothers!


Origins was not an objectively amazing game. I thought it was amazing, but lots of people didn't. I think DAII is amazing, but lots of people don't. The issue is that on these boards, almost every tirade leveled against DAII is about how it's different from Origins.

The bottom line is that >80% of the negative opinions on BSN are not because "DAII is bad," but because "DAII is not what I expected."

[EDIT] I have to add that doesn't mean that the complaints are unfounded. I'm not dismissing negative opinions. I'm only saying that the way in which they're framed negates their value as constructive criticism.


The reviewer wrote " forced myself to play the game to completion despite wanting to quit out of disgust and boredom at least a dozen times before credits rolled, but I shouldn't have bothered."

And you keep saying he was wrong. How is that even possible? 

DA2 is very bad, no, extremely bad console kiddy splatter with sex and romance cookies to appeal "mature" audience more in addition to freaking out console kiddys as they can chose dialogues from conversation wheel and watch "hawt" pirate or virginic and innocent elf speaking to them.


Edit: Someone really don't have a clue here about that if something is s*t it is very hard to play it and low rating is deserved. It seems they take all those graphics and voice acting like they would be something to rise the score when they are just basic elements or optional elements the game has been built on. Without them there is no game or game has been made differently.

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moilami wrote...

The reviewer wrote " forced myself to play the game to completion despite wanting to quit out of disgust and boredom at least a dozen times before credits rolled, but I shouldn't have bothered."

And you keep saying he was wrong. How is that even possible? 

DA2 is very bad, no, extremely bad console kiddy splatter with sex and romance cookies to appeal "mature" audience more in addition to freaking out console kiddys as they can chose dialogues from conversation wheel and watch "hawt" pirate or virginic and innocent elf speaking to them.


I never said that reviewer was bad. In fact, after having read only the quotes in the OP, I thought it was likely a very thoughtful review. I'm sure that it's exactly how he feels. But I feel differently. My point is that I'm not wrong, just as he isn't wrong. There are many actual flaws with the game, but its similarity to Origins is not an appropriate criterion fro judgment.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

moilami wrote...

The reviewer wrote " forced myself to play the game to completion despite wanting to quit out of disgust and boredom at least a dozen times before credits rolled, but I shouldn't have bothered."

And you keep saying he was wrong. How is that even possible? 

DA2 is very bad, no, extremely bad console kiddy splatter with sex and romance cookies to appeal "mature" audience more in addition to freaking out console kiddys as they can chose dialogues from conversation wheel and watch "hawt" pirate or virginic and innocent elf speaking to them.


I never said that reviewer was bad. In fact, after having read only the quotes in the OP, I thought it was likely a very thoughtful review. I'm sure that it's exactly how he feels. But I feel differently. My point is that I'm not wrong, just as he isn't wrong. There are many actual flaws with the game, but its similarity to Origins is not an appropriate criterion fro judgment.


It is not fair to hold FO:NV up to the standards established by DAO. DA2 on the other hand is a sequel to DAO which means it benefits from the success of DAO and is held to those established standards.

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Ohh this forum sure is an endless supply of lols.

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I hope they dont ban the reviewer for having a bad opinion about the Game.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

moilami wrote...

The reviewer wrote " forced myself to play the game to completion despite wanting to quit out of disgust and boredom at least a dozen times before credits rolled, but I shouldn't have bothered."

And you keep saying he was wrong. How is that even possible? 

DA2 is very bad, no, extremely bad console kiddy splatter with sex and romance cookies to appeal "mature" audience more in addition to freaking out console kiddys as they can chose dialogues from conversation wheel and watch "hawt" pirate or virginic and innocent elf speaking to them.


I never said that reviewer was bad. In fact, after having read only the quotes in the OP, I thought it was likely a very thoughtful review. I'm sure that it's exactly how he feels. But I feel differently. My point is that I'm not wrong, just as he isn't wrong. There are many actual flaws with the game, but its similarity to Origins is not an appropriate criterion fro judgment.


Well in that case you ARE wrong. It is a SEQUEL.

I'll repeat again the SEQUEL to Dragon Age: Orgins.

Alot of people (esp preorders) bought the game based on their experience with Dragon Age: Orgins,

While I personally didn't judge the game that way for those who purchased Dragon Age 2.0 based on their experience with Dragon Age 1.0 it is a completely valid criteron to not like the game based on all the changes they made from the critically claimed orginal (90+ metacritic).

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Brad Gallaway is one of the few reviewers on the entire internet whom I respect; he isn't influenced by big publishers, developers, of fanboys - a lot of which litter these forums - and so gives a consistent and honest *critique* on games.

I hope BioWare read this review, and now see what proper critics worth their salt think. Might be nice to see cretins from IGN, Gamespot and the like loving the game out of some misplaced "loyalty", but it's these real reviews that are the ones that count. Think on.

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re: gamecritic review
Quite harsh, but I do agree w/ the general thrust of the review and many of the points made.
I, personally, wouldn't give DA2, at its current state, anything higher than a 7/10 (the 2.5/10 given by the reviewer seems a bit too harsh, IMHO).
As I keep saying, I did enjoy DA2, but was also quite disappointed.

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Sorry to say the bad reviews come from the fact that this game was rushed. Some of the features that were add are indeed great. The problem is none of it was polished. I personally like DA2 because we knew from Origins something was going to happen between those two factions that did happen by the end of the game.
But like I said the problem is the features werent polished and you can clearly see it was a rushed game, even on the first playthrough. I doubt it will be the worst game of the year but it can easily hit that mark, since this game was release so early in the year.

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I don't see what you people are complaining over, for despite it's flaws it's still possibly the best Bioware game to date.

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I have to admit when I first started the game and saw the terrible graphics and the reappearance of Flemeth "I was like oh my God they nuked the fridge"

But after I lowered my expecations (from the epicness I come to expect from bioware) and settled for the mediocrity of the game. I had an Ok experience.

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Come, now, don't insult my intelligence.

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4channers don't sound half as sophisticated as that.

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DarthSliver wrote...

But like I said the problem is the features werent polished and you can clearly see it was a rushed game, even on the first playthrough. I doubt it will be the worst game of the year but it can easily hit that mark, since this game was release so early in the year.


I'm sure there will be more than enough really bad titles on the market this year.

But its always in the eyes of the beholder.

Like the review said, I for one couldn't even bring myself to finish the demo. Fighting, fighting and more fighting with ludicrous animations. I wouldn't have liked that kind of approach in any game, but having the franchise in mind, I simply couldn't bear it.

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Balls. I am so disappointed with this thead. Seeing the BioWare logo made me think someone was going to address the issues of the review.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

CRISIS1717 wrote...

That's because DAO was an amazing game, not many other games have that kind of depth anymore and that high level of interaction. 

Bioware is obviously declaring war on us, to arms my brothers!


Origins was not an objectively amazing game. I thought it was amazing, but lots of people didn't. I think DAII is amazing, but lots of people don't. The issue is that on these boards, almost every tirade leveled against DAII is about how it's different from Origins.

The bottom line is that >80% of the negative opinions on BSN are not because "DAII is bad," but because "DAII is not what I expected."

[EDIT] I have to add that doesn't mean that the complaints are unfounded. I'm not dismissing negative opinions. I'm only saying that the way in which they're framed negates their value as constructive criticism.


Missy think again. Critics don't teach writers to write or directors to make movies. It is not critic's job.

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Gotta love Bioware Bum Boys!Someones made a negative review it must be made up! Yet you never see them complain about The Escapist that gave a perfect score, or the official console magazines which will over score multi platform games to boost sales!

IMO this review is much more truthful than most of the other reviews! It also means the metacritic score went from the 90s in DAO to the 70s!

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Score is to low but it offsets the silly 100 this game got from the escapist. At least he played the whole game, unlike escapists reviewers who are only allowed roughly 4-5 hours per game.

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Heh, I don't mind people giving scores as low as this; since its in their right, and I don't see any wrongs in the review; but its for me at least too low.

Charming anyway; and worth reading.

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orbit991 wrote...

Score is to low but it offsets the silly 100 this game got from the escapist. At least he played the whole game, unlike escapists reviewers who are only allowed roughly 4-5 hours per game.


The escapist review is sham, and I kind of liked the escapist, or at least parts of it, and well I still do.

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What the people think of this review:

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And that picture IS on topic, its taken from the review.

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Andhaira wrote...

http://www.gamecriti...n-age-ii-review

Imagine being stuck in one level with precious little exploration and most areas made up of simple hallways for twenty or thirty hours, and the unpleasantness becomes clear. Adding insult to injury, the player will see the exact same areas being recycled over and over and over and over again, further destroying any potential for Dragon Age's world to be a place of adventure and wonder. Thedas now feels boring, it feels cheap, and the developers should be ashamed of how small and sparse the environments are. The tiny number of unique areas is so absurd, it's got to be someone's idea of a joke.


Worse, every fight basically plays out the same, with players constantly mobbed by pop-in enemies. It makes even rudimentary tactical play impossible (which was the first game's problem, if you'll recall) and utterly destroys player buy-in at the same time. For example, when fighting a non-magical group of knights at a seaside, new reinforcement troops literally dropped out of the sky onto my party. I could hardly believe my eyes. From any perspective, this out-of-nowhere ambush method is a pile of steaming garbage. I don't know who approved this absurd system, but the battles are distasteful, tedious chores that wear away at a sane person's patience.


Are 4Channers hacking game sites now and publishing fake reviews? Or was it RPGCodex? Or perhaps the Trolls Liberation Force issuing yet another terrorist attack? Bush?!


I'm not sure if your post was meant as ironic, or serious.

Those quotes are actually perfectly fair points about the game.