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[mousestalker]

but couldn't was Hespith. If ever there was a mercy killing in the game, that's the one.

[Sheryl Chee]

The Angry One wrote...

She does it either way, the fact that she does it if you're a sneak too is mere coincidence, she's a rat through and through.

No, she doesn't. She betrays you if you rat her out to Cauthrien, if you don't bother talking to her at Arl Eamon's estate, and if you say you're going to kill her dad. All good reasons to betray you, in my opinion.

[Mary Kirby]

[quote]The Angry One wrote...


No, she doesn't. She betrays you if you rat her out to Cauthrien, if you don't bother talking to her at Arl Eamon's estate, and if you say you're going to kill her dad. All good reasons to betray you, in my opinion. [/quote]

I'm not sure how not talking to her is reasonable justification outside the realm of paranoid wearers of tin-foil hats..

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She tells you quite clearly that she wants to stay Queen.  She knows that Eamon wants to put Alistair on the throne instead.  If you don't come talk to her about the Landsmeet, of course she assumes you're sticking with Eamon's plan to put The Boy Who Would Rather Be Thinking About Cheese on the throne.  Tinfoil hat is optional.

[Sheryl Chee]

The Angry One wrote...
I'm not sure how not talking to her is reasonable justification outside the realm of paranoid wearers of tin-foil hats..

She's like "Hi, Grey Warden. Please come talk to me, we need to discuss my dad's complete ass-hattery." She needs to know she can trust you. If she doesn't know she can trust you with Ferelden, she's not going to be on your side.

[Sheryl Chee]

The Angry One wrote...

Which in the end means she'll do anything to grasp onto her power, including messing with me.
I suppose that maybe justifiable to her.. but I still get to hate her for it =P

Anora wants what's best for Ferelden, which is honestly, Anora. Anora was raised to be a queen, she understands her people, she understands politics. She is not power-hungry. She is afraid that Alistair will run Ferelden into the ground, which honestly, he might. He' s a nice guy, sure, but is that kingly material? I don't think so. Mary is right. Alistair is the Boy Who'd Rather Be Thinking About Cheese. And playing with all those carved statues that you give him as gifts (they're like action figures to him). Really? Alistair? King?

[Sheryl Chee]

The Angry One wrote...

Everybody's so mean to Alistair, even the developers. My ears droop with pity.

It's only because we love him. It's like when I call my cats Poopybutts. I do it because I love them.

Modifié par Sheryl Chee, 18 novembre 2009 - 12:25 .

[Mary Kirby]

Mezzidriel wrote...



You have the Arl, and depending on the choices you make you have the Dwarves, the Dalish Elves (or the Werewolves), and the Mages.  I think that counts as half of Ferelden at least, don't you?

They're not your personal armies.  They agreed to follow you against the Blight, nothing else.

If you died fighting Loghain in the Landsmeet, the dwarves would be thrilled.  They'd far rather keep their troops at home to defend against the constant darkspawn attacks they've always got.  The Dalish aren't risking their necks for some stupid human political squabble, and if the Circle got involved, the Chantry would send Templars after them faster than you could blink.

[Mary Kirby]

The Angry One wrote...


And you don't think they'd be the least bit miffed that the person who helped them from certain death (mages/elves) or to the throne (dwarves) gets arrested and neutralized leaving them to get overrun by the Blight thanks to some jumped up human?

I'm sure Bhelen or Harrowmont would shed a single tear for you.  Then go back to trying not to get shived by any other nobles on the way to lunch.

[David Gaider]

Maria Caliban wrote...
You know TAO, you're ignoring what the writers have said in this very thread, you're ignoring what's said in the game, and you're ignoring common sense.

So okay, you're right. Despite all evidence to the contrary, your character is Alexander the Great leading his armies and Queen Anora is a fool to oppose your obvious military might. In fact, because of the Sacred Ashes quest, a high-dragon or Andreste herself has decided to become your slave and will tear Denerim stone from stone unless Anora capitulates to your will.

With that might behind you, it’s amazing that she doesn’t see the light of day. I wonder why you can’t just order your army to storm the city, take Loghian and Anora hostage, and demand the banns serve at your whim.

Total FUBAR on the writers’ part.

I know right? We are just too rigid, us writers. Clearly we missed the angle where everyone would form up into a conquering army out of sheer gratitude. Better patch that in, stat!

[David Gaider]

The Angry One wrote...
If not out of sheer gratitude, then why do the werewolves join?
Complimentary flea combs?

Yes, they are indeed indebted to you.

And it is also in their best interest to deal with the Blight that is on their doorstep.

But, no, I'm sure that's just an excuse for us to drag you along on "our" plot, right?

[David Gaider]

The Angry One wrote...
I'm not sure where I said the plot was dragging me along anywhere, since my point in all this is Anora is messing with things she doesn't understand because she's a power hungry wench and should swing from the highest yardarm in the Denerim docks.
Point is they're not going to deal with the Blight without you now, are they? Anora's petty betrayals threaten all of them, and that in the end is why they could *potentially* oppose her.

Yes, clearly Anora should not have opposed you. Clearly you have the best interests of Ferelden at heart. She should have known that, the ungrateful wench. My apologies.

[Sheryl Chee]

Zenocrate wrote...

Then at the landsmeet she comes out in favor of Loghain.  I bent over backwards to help her keep her throne and she STILL backstabbed me.

So either you guys don't know what you're talking about, or you've got some QAing to do.

Sigh. I think this has been said several times, but if you tell her that you're going to kill her father, she's going to betray you. Because she loves her father. OH NOEZ, how unreasonable.