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[SolidSnake7]

Varric is a good party member but everyone seems to get all giddy and saying hes a must in every party you have.  In Orgins I ran Alistair/Morrigan/Wyrnn and myself as a mage.  This go around I was going to do the same and do Avaline/Merill/Anders and myself as a mage but my biggest question is Varric that big of a role in your party?

I'm playing on normal so I know it isn't that big of a deal but I guess after i get thur this playthrough and I wanted to try hard/nightmare.

[Atmosfear3]

Only on my rogue playthrough. There really isn't any point to having more than 1 rogue per party. On the other hand, 2 warriors in a party is not bad at all, especially if you are a Primal/Force mage.

[DrFumb1ezX]

 How the hell is Varric gonna tell your story if he's never in it? 

[Trapslick]

varric makes things easier... high auto attack dps (when attack speed is taken into account), you can get him to 40 cun so he can unlock things / disable traps and rouges help with aggro.

he's an amazing ally, but there is not a single companion that is necisary to win.

but don't go without a rouge, traps, chests, the added aggro management are just too good.

[ToJKa1]

He's a fixture with my mage, though my rogue doesn't need a second archer in the party and my warrior rather associates with Sebastian.

[x-president]

I just finished on hard and I never used him, only on his companion missions. 


My next game I do plan on trying him out.  I hear only good things about him. 

[Whitestrake]

I've actually done three playthroughs now, & only used Varric once.
My first, as I rogue I didn't really need him for.
When I played a warrior he was alright for crowd control.
And as a mage, I just went with Isabela. She gets things done.

Varric's one of my favorite characters, but he isn't very useful. He can pick up the slack for CC, & AoE, but he'll pale in comparison to a mage. If you don't like Isabela though, & you're not a rogue it doesn't hurt to have a guy who opens stuff.

Really, if he didn't have some of the best dialog in the game, I wouldn't even bother with him.

[DA Trap Star]

I dont use him because I find Sebastian more useful.
The only reason I've been use Varric is because of the Sebastian friendship bug, so I switch between the two, but I find Sebastian more useful.

[Ceranil]

soccerchick wrote...

 How the hell is Varric gonna tell your story if he's never in it? 

He watched the movie.

[SolidSnake7]

Yeah I might just try things out I guess. I might do what others did and just not use Anders and since I'm a mage I could get Heal or have Merril have heal and just go with that. I agree having a rogue to open things and disable traps have saved me. I have only encountered Sebastian once and he seems weird and Isabela...well...why yes

I will just have to play with it. Thanks for the input

[Sokane]

I'm not using him currently... I'm running Hawke(dw rogue), Aveline, Anders, Merrill... Though I considered sitting Ave out for anything that doesn't involve a boss and bring Varric instead

[termokanden]

If you're not playing a rogue, Varric is just the ideal lockpicker. He has an awesome personal tree and isn't somewhat easier to deal with than the other NPC rogues.

It's just a good combination. He fits into every party and provided very good ranged damage so he doesn't get in the way either.

[Apathy1989]

Varric is good for lockpicking and damage, but I do get sick of him being mauled by hostiles. Towards the end of the game I usually stop bringing varric as I don't need any more gold.

I just wish he had a bard buff like leliana did, so at least I would always want him around.

[Nooneyouknow13]

Apathy1989 wrote...

Varric is good for lockpicking and damage, but I do get sick of him being mauled by hostiles. Towards the end of the game I usually stop bringing varric as I don't need any more gold.

I just wish he had a bard buff like leliana did, so at least I would always want him around.

Varric shouldn't be getting mauled, as he basically has no use for dexterity.  Cunning to 40 asap to handle all locks and traps, and then almost all in to consitutions, with a bit here and there into willpower until you feel he can least, and then work on his dexterity. He gets an obscene amount of damage just from Bianca and attack speed buffs, and a rather generous amount of crit as well.  Just keep an eye twoards +attack accessories.

[Talladarr]

Personally, I use Varric in most of my games, mostly just because I get him early on so you can customize him most since you can only use Maker's Sighs on Hawke. But if nothing else, he's GREAT for party banter, especially with Isibela and Merrill.

[Running_Blind]

I've been using Isabella, but I'm regretting it, the amount of micro-management she requires on nightmare is absurd, Varric requires less baby-sitting, mostly because he's ranged so you have a lot more breathing room to drop his threat.

Maybe in lower difficulties she's a good off tank, but in nightmare having one melee enemy after her is too much, you have to constantly manually control her to dodge melee attacks, with enemies dealing a lot of damage in nightmare any hit will either stagger her or knock her onto her arse.

Considering a large part of Rogues is their DPS, you're wasting a lot of her potential because you're moving rather than attacking.

So let's say you work at keeping her threat level under control and use her for single target DPS (which is what I'm doing), well Varric's personal tree also focus' on SDPS.

I can't really think of a gameplay reason to use her over Varric and I'm really trying to, I've had her in my party most of the game and I'm determined to finish it with my current line up.

I also think Varric has far more interesting dialogue, "You have sanctioned frolicking areas?" was genuinely funny.

[Running_Blind]

Talladarr wrote...

Personally, I use Varric in most of my games, mostly just because I get him early on so you can customize him most since you can only use Maker's Sighs on Hawke. But if nothing else, he's GREAT for party banter, especially with Isibela and Merrill.

You can use the sighs on party members.

[Jazharah]

Strategy-wise, on normal, it barely matters who you take along, not even on boss fights.

Story-wise however, I like having Varric along simply for his banter and ability to talk you out of situations. I'd recommend to play at least one play through with him in your party at practically all times simply because he's fun to have around. Other than that there's no need for him particularly, like every companion.

[MetallicaRulez0]

I use him as my token Rogue on my Mage and Warrior playthroughs. I didn't use him at all on my 2 Rogue playthroughs, as others have said there isn't any point to having 2 Rogues in the party.

[Heather Cline]

No I rarely used Varric in any of my play throughs. Only time I had him in my party was when Isabela wasn't available or when I had to do his personal quests.

[Hepzi3]

I only use him on quests where I am required to. Although on my most recent run im trying to experiment and see what is what. As a base,I bring Merril along because of her armor thing,and then depending on my class (first was warrior) Fenris or Aveline (most often Fenris) and then Carver/Bethany if its before they leave. I actually this run made Carver to be my most buffed up party member and was sad when he went to the Templars. Yeah I barely ever use Varric,but he is pretty awesome if you are like me and didnt realize you could recruit Fenris the first time.

[Running_Blind]

MetallicaRulez0 wrote...

I use him as my token Rogue on my Mage and Warrior playthroughs. I didn't use him at all on my 2 Rogue playthroughs, as others have said there isn't any point to having 2 Rogues in the party.

Well you could have one focusing on DPS and another focusing on the utility talents. Fenris to tank and use AoE to kill the hordes of weaker enemies, a DPS specialising Varric or DW Hawk Rogue to concentrate on Assassins/Mages/Commanders, a healer plus CC mage and a rogue for threat management, CC and some more SDPS to take down boss' even quicker.

[kyles3]

Varric = The Mario

[nicodeemus327]

Running_Blind wrote...

I've been using Isabella, but I'm regretting it, the amount of micro-management she requires on nightmare is absurd, Varric requires less baby-sitting, mostly because he's ranged so you have a lot more breathing room to drop his threat.

Maybe in lower difficulties she's a good off tank, but in nightmare having one melee enemy after her is too much, you have to constantly manually control her to dodge melee attacks, with enemies dealing a lot of damage in nightmare any hit will either stagger her or knock her onto her arse.

Considering a large part of Rogues is their DPS, you're wasting a lot of her potential because you're moving rather than attacking.

So let's say you work at keeping her threat level under control and use her for single target DPS (which is what I'm doing), well Varric's personal tree also focus' on SDPS.

I can't really think of a gameplay reason to use her over Varric and I'm really trying to, I've had her in my party most of the game and I'm determined to finish it with my current line up.

I also think Varric has far more interesting dialogue, "You have sanctioned frolicking areas?" was genuinely funny.

This was my experience as well. I just used her to run in, use explosive shot on a staggered target, then run out.

[naughty99]

You're forced to bring him to the Deep Roads in Act 1.

Other than that I have never used him since I'm playing a Rogue Hawke and it's more helpful to have 2 mages with me to set up BRITTLE ccc combos and I use Fenris as my tank.