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[ziloe]

What the hell? I just did the Templar path and nothing changed, except the route you take. Even the epilogue with Varric adds basically one single sentence of your becoming Viscount. Ooh, big deal! 

Gawd Bioware, you should be ashamed of yourself! 

[Lithuasil]

Since between the death of the Archdemon, the death of the archdemon and the death of the archdemon, there were plenty of alternate endings in Origins. :|

[The Angry One]

The whole finale is a sequel hook. Of course they didn't bother with alternates, it's only purpose is to set up the next game.
What? Satisfying conclusion? Self-contained story? Who needs that!

[Vanaer]

Lithuasil wrote...

Since between the death of the Archdemon, the death of the archdemon and the death of the archdemon, there were plenty of alternate endings in Origins. :|

Yea, but you could choose to die (sic!)! That was major!

/continues rant about DA II .

[Sylvianus]

You had exactly the same reaction as me when I finished the game.

[The Angry One]

Lithuasil wrote...

Since between the death of the Archdemon, the death of the archdemon and the death of the archdemon, there were plenty of alternate endings in Origins. :|

King Alistair?
King Alistair + Warden?
King Alistair + Anora?
Anora?
Anora + Warden?
Dead Warden?
Dead Alistair?
Dead Loghain?

That's the final decision alone, and I bet I've missed a couple.

[sgreco1970]

Lithuasil wrote...

Since between the death of the Archdemon, the death of the archdemon and the death of the archdemon, there were plenty of alternate endings in Origins. :|

I hope you're joking. between the death of alistair or alistair living, or alistair sacrificing himself for you, or loghain living and becoming a warden, or loghain being killed by you, alistair becomes the king, anora becomes the queen, alistair and anora become monarchs, you marry alistair and become his queen, morrigan storms off angry or morrigan sleeps with alistair....there were tons of ways that game could work out.

[Lithuasil]

The Angry One wrote...

Lithuasil wrote...

Since between the death of the Archdemon, the death of the archdemon and the death of the archdemon, there were plenty of alternate endings in Origins. :|

King Alistair?
King Alistair + Warden?
King Alistair + Anora?
Anora?
Anora + Warden?
Dead Warden?
Dead Alistair?
Dead Loghain?

That's the final decision alone, and I bet I've missed a couple.

Should I start counting all the possible variables of killing or not killing anders, killing or not killing fenris, killing or not killing your sibling, running away or becoming viscount or running away on isabellas ship?
End of Origins: Archdemon dies, and who's dead and who's alive depends on you.
End of DA2: War breaks out, and who's dead and who's alive depends on you.

The difference being?

[The Angry One]

Well the main difference is

Origins: "The Archdemon is slain! The leader of Ferelden is decided. The story that began here, ended here."
DA2: "The great big war has begun! Both main characters are mysteriously absent! Find out the exciting conclusion in DA3!"

Modifié par The Angry One, 23 mars 2011 - 10:01 .

[kyles3]

The Angry One wrote...

Well the main difference is

Origins: "The Archdemon is slain! The leader of Ferelden is decided. The story that began here, ended here."
DA2: "The great big war has begun! Both main characters are mysteriously absent! Find out the exciting conclusion in DA3!"

Worked for Star Wars.

[The Angry One]

I'm just not fond of trilogy syndrome myself, I always hate the middle story existing solely to be the hook for the finale.

[NvVanity]

The Angry One wrote...

I'm just not fond of trilogy syndrome myself, I always hate the middle story existing solely to be the hook for the finale.

I blame Hollywood for that.

[TheBlackBaron]

The Angry One wrote...

Well the main difference is

Origins: "The Archdemon is slain! The leader of Ferelden is decided. The story that began here, ended here."
DA2: "The great big war has begun! Both main characters are mysteriously absent! Find out the exciting conclusion in DA3!"

This is every trilogy ever. 

[ziloe]

Lithuasil wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Lithuasil wrote...

Since between the death of the Archdemon, the death of the archdemon and the death of the archdemon, there were plenty of alternate endings in Origins. :|

King Alistair?
King Alistair + Warden?
King Alistair + Anora?
Anora?
Anora + Warden?
Dead Warden?
Dead Alistair?
Dead Loghain?

That's the final decision alone, and I bet I've missed a couple.

Should I start counting all the possible variables of killing or not killing anders, killing or not killing fenris, killing or not killing your sibling, running away or becoming viscount or running away on isabellas ship?
End of Origins: Archdemon dies, and who's dead and who's alive depends on you.
End of DA2: War breaks out, and who's dead and who's alive depends on you.

The difference being?

None of that actually matters though. You get one little scene, in comparison to the epilogue that takes the same route no matter what and adds or takes away a few words.

[Maconbar]

The Angry One wrote...

I'm just not fond of trilogy syndrome myself, I always hate the middle story existing solely to be the hook for the finale.

That's why The Empire Strikes Back is the worst of the bunch.

[Talvrae]

The Angry One wrote...

Well the main difference is

Origins: "The Archdemon is slain! The leader of Ferelden is decided. The story that began here, ended here."
DA2: "The great big war has begun! Both main characters are mysteriously absent! Find out the exciting conclusion in DA3!"

The difference is that Dragon Age: Origin Bioware wanst sure of the success of the franchise. Dragon age 2 is part of a bigger franchise and they have a continuity planned now

Modifié par Talvrae, 23 mars 2011 - 10:10 .

[ziloe]

Talvrae wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Well the main difference is

Origins: "The Archdemon is slain! The leader of Ferelden is decided. The story that began here, ended here."
DA2: "The great big war has begun! Both main characters are mysteriously absent! Find out the exciting conclusion in DA3!"

The difference is that Dragon Agw: Origin Bioware wanst sure of the success of the franchise. Dragon age 2 is part of a bigger franchise and they have a continuity planned now

Or, alternatively, EA just rushed the hell out of them, wanting to make more money on the success of its predecessor and didn't really care for the final details. Even having Anders in your group is forced, despite his death in Awakening if you don't fortify your keep well enough and leave him there.

[Lithuasil]

ziloe wrote...

None of that actually matters though. You get one little scene, in comparison to the epilogue that takes the same route no matter what and adds or takes away a few words.

Actually, since route and encounters change in DA2 based on your decision... it kind of matters more. Actually changing a level based on your decisions is more non-linearity then Origins had at any point. 

[Tamahome560]

Since when was Dragon Age meant to be a trilogy? Did I miss something ?

[Merced652]

Maconbar wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

I'm just not fond of trilogy syndrome myself, I always hate the middle story existing solely to be the hook for the finale.

That's why The Empire Strikes Back is the worst of the bunch.

Empire was the best, there is no question. It story had every element you need to make a great movie, furthermore every element was masterfully done. 

That said, i don't know how the hell that has anything to do with DA2. Is zombie mom supposed to be Han frozen in carbonite?

Modifié par Merced652, 23 mars 2011 - 10:15 .

[Talvrae]

Tamahome560 wrote...

Since when was Dragon Age meant to be a trilogy? Did I miss something ?

Never... but now it's a franchise, it can become a trilogye... or have 12 sequels... who knows

[thenemesis77]

DA3, Return of the HEROS, find out who turns to the DARK SIDE!! You won't belive your eyes!! A damn eye opener, shouts the -N.Y. Times. I was on the edge of my chair,- screams L.A. Times. The Warden and Hawke melted me, -The Washinton Post.

[Tamahome560]

Also anyone who expected multiple endings didn't listen to what the devs and trailers have been saying all the time since the game was announced. The outcome of the story was already set: Chantry has fallen to pieces and the world is at the brink of war. Your role in the game was to decide what kind of person was the Champion and what was the reasoning behind the choices he made which lead to the events at present.

[The Angry One]

I make it a principle not to watch BioWare trailers until they stop using repulsive poster boys in them.

And come on everyone, is it not obvious that this is meant to be a trilogy? DA2 has "middle story" written all over it.
Granted they may extend it further, but trilogies are usually the best bet for money making purposes.

Modifié par The Angry One, 23 mars 2011 - 10:54 .

[Lithuasil]

The Angry One wrote...

I make it a principle not to watch BioWare trailers until they stop using repulsive poster boys in them.

And come on everyone, is it not obvious that this is meant to be a trilogy? DA2 has "middle story" written all over it.
Granted they may extend it further, but trilogies are usually the best bet for money making purposes.

While likely - not necessarily, and I don't say that only because I want more then 3 DA istallments. A story merely following the life of a single character contributing to larger events, without necessarily resolving said events, speaking as an author I fail to see what's wrong with that. In fact, personally I'd rather have this then "person has boring life for 21 years, family get's killed by orcs, person saves world, lives happy ever after". But that's just me of course.