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[AkiKishi]

Wivvix wrote...

This review was 100% spot on. I really couldn't have said it better myself.

I've identified the reason DA2 was so bad. The lead designer, Mike Laidlaw, professed this opinion in response to criticisms about DA2.

Mike Laidlaw: Dragon Age II was designed by just the senior, core team. Honestly I don't feel it's a game that's been designed to appeal far and wide and so on. If it were, there were choices we could have made that would have taken it much, much further. We would have probably simplified down to a single character, maybe with companions; probably looked at doing some even deeper changes to inventory management, making sure that... You wouldn't want to confuse people with enchanting or anything complex like that.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-10-biowares-mike-laidlaw-a-defence-of-dragon-age-ii-interview

You know if you had not posted a link I would have thought you made that up. That guy really has a low opinion gamers....

Enchantment...?

Modifié par BobSmith101, 24 mars 2011 - 04:35 .

[Tekman9]

Sigh... I was typing a bunch of this out then my mouse fell and closed my web browser lol... here we go again

I was really enjoying this game in act1. I was playing on nightmare (until tranquility, I had to drop the difficulty down permanently because of the party I was using). I spent a TON of time in act 1 because i was dying so much. I had I believe 37+ hours before i made it to act 2.

Since act 2 started I really lost my desire to play. Im kinda just disenchanted with the environment I think. I read all the complaints about the duplicated locations and I thought it was a minor annoyance in act 1. What I didnt know was that you go back to the EXACT same places in act 2 (and presumably the rest of the game). I was at least expecting different wilderness stuff... Plus all these people talk to me for quests and what not, and I have no idea who them are. Oh youre some guys son I helped? Well I dont remember that in the slightest. You must have been fetch quest 5. Nitpicking there... Maybe its that I cant play on nightmare anymore? Maybe its the ridic difficulty fluctuations?

Also, this time fast forward thing.... Um bioware said it was to take out all the boring parts or whatever. At least from act 1 -> 2 it just seems like a quick way to justify reusing all the same environments. There is really really really no reason at all for the time jump after the deep roads. Plus the characters keep hammering home that theres been 3 years that passed like every time they talk, cmon.

So anyway. I still dont think this is a professional review. Its pretty clear hes just another forum ranter especially with the 'press a button do something awesome quote'. Come on thats straight from every hater on the forums. And the dumbed down for console audience. That is such a tired argument. Im not ****ing stupid because I dont have a new gaming rig so I can play 3 decent PC games a year for more than the price of a console. Go cry on your blog.

And on a related note. I just started playing Deadly Premonition last night, which got a like a 2/10 from ign. Game is bad in a good way haha. Reminds me of like PS1/saturn times when controls and cameras were ****ty and everything was japped out and made no sense

[AkiKishi]

Tekman9 wrote...

Sigh... I was typing a bunch of this out then my mouse fell and closed my web browser lol... here we go again

I was really enjoying this game in act1. I was playing on nightmare (until tranquility, I had to drop the difficulty down permanently because of the party I was using). I spent a TON of time in act 1 because i was dying so much. I had I believe 37+ hours before i made it to act 2.

Since act 2 started I really lost my desire to play. Im kinda just disenchanted with the environment I think. I read all the complaints about the duplicated locations and I thought it was a minor annoyance in act 1. What I didnt know was that you go back to the EXACT same places in act 2 (and presumably the rest of the game). I was at least expecting different wilderness stuff... Plus all these people talk to me for quests and what not, and I have no idea who them are. Oh youre some guys son I helped? Well I dont remember that in the slightest. You must have been fetch quest 5. Nitpicking there... Maybe its that I cant play on nightmare anymore? Maybe its the ridic difficulty fluctuations?

Also, this time fast forward thing.... Um bioware said it was to take out all the boring parts or whatever. At least from act 1 -> 2 it just seems like a quick way to justify reusing all the same environments. There is really really really no reason at all for the time jump after the deep roads. Plus the characters keep hammering home that theres been 3 years that passed like every time they talk, cmon.

So anyway. I still dont think this is a professional review. Its pretty clear hes just another forum ranter especially with the 'press a button do something awesome quote'. Come on thats straight from every hater on the forums. And the dumbed down for console audience. That is such a tired argument. Im not ****ing stupid because I dont have a new gaming rig so I can play 3 decent PC games a year for more than the price of a console. Go cry on your blog.

And on a related note. I just started playing Deadly Premonition last night, which got a like a 2/10 from ign. Game is bad in a good way haha. Reminds me of like PS1/saturn times when controls and cameras were ****ty and everything was japped out and made no sense

Blame MrSilveman for that one , he works for Bioware.

It's not something that people made up in response to DA2 , it's the principle around which they designed DA2.

[Obadiah]

A score of 2.5? The guy is trolling.

To the Mike Laidlow interview: wow, they have REALLY changed their focus at Bioware. I'm kinda cringing on what TOR will look like now.

[Reinveil]

Wivvix wrote...

This review was 100% spot on. I really couldn't have said it better myself.

I've identified the reason DA2 was so bad. The lead designer, Mike Laidlaw, professed this opinion in response to criticisms about DA2.

Mike Laidlaw: Dragon Age II was designed by just the senior, core team. Honestly I don't feel it's a game that's been designed to appeal far and wide and so on. If it were, there were choices we could have made that would have taken it much, much further. We would have probably simplified down to a single character, maybe with companions; probably looked at doing some even deeper changes to inventory management, making sure that... You wouldn't want to confuse people with enchanting or anything complex like that.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-10-biowares-mike-laidlaw-a-defence-of-dragon-age-ii-interview

Dear Bioware,

Stop letting Mike Laidlaw talk.  Thanks.

Your friend,

Reinveil

[bill4747bill]

Humanity is doomed. People are either full of garbage or stupid. It's official.

[Tekman9]

"The console experience doesn't fight itself as much as it did in Origins. The targeting is smoother than Origins was by miles." - Laidlaw

Ok im reading this interview and its whatever normal PR spin but the above. Id like to know what game hes playing? I routinely have problems on console targeting. im going to probably guess that this is mostly due to the fact that you have to mash x constantly and its easy to attack someone else and theres not really an indicator that youre locked on to someone like the obvious one in origins...

[Cyberstrike nTo]

I've enjoy the game quite a bit and while it has flaws I still think it's a great  and more importantly a fun game.

[Vicious]

Wow, direct quote from Mike?

Yikes!

[Johnny20]

Reinveil wrote...

Wivvix wrote...

This review was 100% spot on. I really couldn't have said it better myself.

I've identified the reason DA2 was so bad. The lead designer, Mike Laidlaw, professed this opinion in response to criticisms about DA2.

Mike Laidlaw: Dragon Age II was designed by just the senior, core team. Honestly I don't feel it's a game that's been designed to appeal far and wide and so on. If it were, there were choices we could have made that would have taken it much, much further. We would have probably simplified down to a single character, maybe with companions; probably looked at doing some even deeper changes to inventory management, making sure that... You wouldn't want to confuse people with enchanting or anything complex like that.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-10-biowares-mike-laidlaw-a-defence-of-dragon-age-ii-interview

Dear Bioware,

Stop letting Mike Laidlaw talk.  Thanks.

Your friend,

Reinveil

This.

This this this.

[GrandHarrier]

"There's no reason I should spend more time looking at loading screens than playing."
"Approximately 22 hours of play were devoted to the single-player mode, and the game was completed."

Amazing. He beat the game in around 11 hours with 11+ spent in loading screens.

[ZombiePowered]

This moron wouldn't know a good game if it hit him in the jaw with a pneumatic jackhammer. He gave Mass Effect 2 a 7.5. And a 2.5 for DA2? Was he doing cocaine? If you want fair, reasonable and truthful reviews go read PCGamer. And if you want comments that are actually spot on and actually cite moments and feature of the game, go watch Zero Punctuation. This guy is just talking out of his ass because he knows extremely negative reviews will get him attention, but he doesn't actually support his claims with any real evidence to in any way justify this review.

[Tekman9]

dude you just mentioned a review that was a perfect and a review that was 94%. Is that any different? Its juts the other end of the spectrum. I dont agree with this 2.5 review at all (the score at least, he brings up common complaints but he writes like a highschool kid), but I dont think that this game deserves a 90+ let a lone a perfect either.

Modifié par Tekman9, 24 mars 2011 - 05:05 .

[Ahicz]

GrandHarrier wrote...

"There's no reason I should spend more time looking at loading screens than playing."
"Approximately 22 hours of play were devoted to the single-player mode, and the game was completed."

Amazing. He beat the game in around 11 hours with 11+ spent in loading screens.

I guess you have never heard of a thing called hyperbole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

Always happy to help.

 He gave Mass Effect 2 a 7.5

which is exactly what it deserved, it was a good game thus he gave it a good rating. I know that for bioware fanboys, anything but 10/10 is bad review but please

[retsmot]

after reading the review, i could not help but to agree with all the points he made. however, its not a 2.5, its easily a 5. bogged down simply by the vast amount of glitches the game comes with.

[GrandHarrier]

Ahicz wrote...

GrandHarrier wrote...

"There's no reason I should spend more time looking at loading screens than playing."
"Approximately 22 hours of play were devoted to the single-player mode, and the game was completed."

Amazing. He beat the game in around 11 hours with 11+ spent in loading screens.

I guess you have never heard of a thing called hyperbole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

Always happy to help.

 He gave Mass Effect 2 a 7.5

which is exactly what it deserved, it was a good game thus he gave it a good rating. I know that for bioware fanboys, anything but 10/10 is bad review but please

Actually, I have heard of it, and I was pointing out that he basically invalidates his own review by making himself untrustworthy. What else in his review is also an exaggeration? I want real facts from reviews.

[Nogthwai]

Well, I enjoyed the Game so far (45 hours in) and don't really care what score the reviewer gave it anyway; I read his review and I was not very impressed.

He states that the writing is generally bad, that the story is lacking and the companions are lame; well I guess he's just stating his opinion in this case; you simply can't make this an universal because some people (inlcuding me) like the story and the way the characters are portrayed. The only valid point he makes is the recycling of levels, which is quite frustrating and immersion-breaking indeed.

Also the fact that it took him 22 hours to complete means that he played the game on easy or normal and skipped some of the dialogue. On such a difficulty level he should not touch words like startegy and tactics with a ten foot pole since you need none to survive at this level. (And you didnt' need any strategy or tactics in Origins either on normal, just right click one enemy at a time).  

Modifié par Nogthwai, 24 mars 2011 - 05:21 .

[Merced652]

GrandHarrier wrote...

Ahicz wrote...

GrandHarrier wrote...

"There's no reason I should spend more time looking at loading screens than playing."
"Approximately 22 hours of play were devoted to the single-player mode, and the game was completed."

Amazing. He beat the game in around 11 hours with 11+ spent in loading screens.

I guess you have never heard of a thing called hyperbole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

Always happy to help.

 He gave Mass Effect 2 a 7.5

which is exactly what it deserved, it was a good game thus he gave it a good rating. I know that for bioware fanboys, anything but 10/10 is bad review but please

Actually, I have heard of it, and I was pointing out that he basically invalidates his own review by making himself untrustworthy. What else in his review is also an exaggeration? I want real facts from reviews.

Actually i think this would lend more validity to his reviews as it seems his interests have aligned with joe gamer. People don't play ME for the rpg mechanics, they never have. They play it for cinematic story, based on that, its a good game, it deserves a 7.5 and only that low because of terminator.

People don't play DA for bad rpg mechanics and systems, thus its low score. Theres no way people could've played origins and expected some kind of cinematic story bull**** out of da2.  

[Merchant2006]

I don't care about the score but the reviewer got many things spot on and pointed out a lot of DA2 flaws. Gotta praise him on that.

[Ahicz]

GrandHarrier wrote...

 I want real facts from reviews.

Okay, let's start then.

Every single dungeon in the game, no matter where it lies or what is it supposed to be (bandit hideout, cave in the wilderness etc.) is the same damn map, reused over and over and over and over again.

Enemies spawn in waves and literally out of thin air.

Thos are simply facts. You can not argue with them. Do I really need to go on?

[addu2urmanapool]

I hope Bioware reads this!

[AloraKast]

Wow.

Brad Gallaway's article is spot on. Thank you SO much for posting the link. Really appreciate it.

While I do feel somewhat satisfied in seeing my own views reflected in an official game review, overall I am experiencing a sense of great sadness with the direction the Dragon Age franchise has taken. I can only hope that the powers that be don't shut their ears and eyes tight and pretend that DA2 is a phenomenal success... especially compared to DA:O - but rather learn from their mistakes. Let's do without the half-assed, sub-par, sloppy and above all RUSHED products, especially from a company that is known for and obviously is quite capable of SO MUCH BETTER!

http://social.biowar...5400/12#6743058

Just... WOW!

Modifié par AloraKast, 24 mars 2011 - 05:40 .

[ZombiePowered]

Tekman9 wrote...

dude you just mentioned a review that was a perfect and a review that was 94%. Is that any different? Its juts the other end of the spectrum. I dont agree with this 2.5 review at all (the score at least, he brings up common complaints but he writes like a highschool kid), but I dont think that this game deserves a 90+ let a lone a perfect either.

Yes,  but there is another end of the spectrum isn't there? People should be aware of this, and not just cite absurbly negative reviews because they wanted Dragon Age: Origins 2.

And the 2.5 review isn't so much an extreme end of the spectrum as it is a radical outlier without any justification for its rating. Seriously, Low: Everything? Really? I'm more than open to discuss honest and insightful criticisms of the game, but this guy is just jumping on the hate bandwagon and fanning the flames without any evidence to suggest the game was bad.

[Giubba]

Ahicz wrote...

GrandHarrier wrote...

 I want real facts from reviews.

Okay, let's start then.

Every single dungeon in the game, no matter where it lies or what is it supposed to be (bandit hideout, cave in the wilderness etc.) is the same damn map, reused over and over and over and over again.

Enemies spawn in waves and literally out of thin air.

Thos are simply facts. You can not argue with them. Do I really need to go on?

Yes please, and i'm already launghing waiting on what you will made up because you have already used the only two problems that are vastly recognized as facts

Modifié par Giubba1985, 24 mars 2011 - 05:52 .

[ZombiePowered]

Ahicz wrote...

GrandHarrier wrote...

 I want real facts from reviews.

Okay, let's start then.

Every single dungeon in the game, no matter where it lies or what is it supposed to be (bandit hideout, cave in the wilderness etc.) is the same damn map, reused over and over and over and over again.

Enemies spawn in waves and literally out of thin air.

Thos are simply facts. You can not argue with them. Do I really need to go on?

Yes you do. Those are faults, yes, but they don't significantly impact your roleplaying experience. Maybe they make you scoff during combat, or while you're exploring caves and killing bandits, but they don't make the story less intriguiing or the characters less interesting and hilarious (or posssed by demons, damn you Anders).