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[Merced652]

Pyrate_d wrote...

It's like someone who thinks that Armageddon is a better movie than Taxi Driver. It's a perfectly valid opinion, but they're still wrong. And there's really no point in arguing with a person who inhabits such a lower plane of existence.

I could stay awake just to hear you breathing 
Watch you smile while you are sleeping 
While you're far away and dreaming 
I could spend my life in this sweet surrender 
I could stay lost in this moment forever 
Every moment spent with you 
Is a moment I treasure 

Don't wanna close my eyes 
Don't wanna fall asleep 
'Cause I'd miss you, baby 
And I don't wanna miss a thing 
'Cause even when I dream of you 
The sweetest dream would never do 
I'd still miss you, baby 
And I don't wanna miss a thing 

[Gaius Octavian]

I agree with his review about everything EXCEPT the score. While I believe everything was below the standards Bioware has set in the past, and has shown they are capable of producing better. a 2.5 is ridiculous. At the lowest I would give the game a 7, because it was in my opinion still playable.

[Pyrate_d]

It's scary that Bioware can offer crap when people are expecting something good, and still have people choking down the crap, convincing themselves that they like it. I wanted to like it too at first, because it's a lot more fun to enjoy a game than to hate it. 

Modifié par Pyrate_d, 24 mars 2011 - 12:47 .

[RaenImrahl]

Pyrate_d wrote...

RaenImrahl wrote...

A poorly-written review which parrots the points already raised by many long before. And ALL writing that starts with a poorly paraphrased of a line from Hamlet should be ignored. Merely an attempt by the author to justify his rants from earlier:

http://www.gamecriti...y-dragon-age-ii
http://www.gamecriti...n-age-ii-part-2

Very clever how you use some irrelevant crap to deflect the content of the review. 

I understand the impulse to try to find excuses for DA2 and for Bioware, but it's ultimately misguided.

I simply pointed out there's nothing new in this review, and it's presented poorly.  I've done my share of criticism of Bioware's products, both with DA2 and in the DAO PC tech forum...  go look at my old posts and replies if it makes you feel better.  In fact, I'd appreciate it if you go look in the Origins PC tech forum.  I've spent a lot of time helping people there try to enjoy a game that, technologically speaking, is as flawed as they come.

It's a poorly written review.  That doesn't mean I don't agree with some of his conclusions. A few, I do-- level recycling, for example. If he had simply provided a laundry list of things he liked about the game, instead of disliked, I'd still think he's a crappy writer.  Just sayin'.   

[Firky]

Perspective, people. You know what game deserves to be reviewed at 2.5/10?

http://en.wikipedia....ss_(video_game)

It simply put xbox controller buttons onto your PC keypad, which were super unwieldy in context. The story and minigames didn't even string together logically (I had no idea what was going on.) It was clearly a movie spin-off for kids who liked the movie. It was medium priced.

It did still deserve 2.5, because it was about 5 hours long and you could ride a polar bear, but that's it.(Or could you BE a polar bear? I can't remember. I wanted those 5 hours of my life back but maybe a true Golden Compass fan would've enjoyed it.)

[RaenImrahl]

Haxas wrote...

*snip*

Overglorifying Origins is all that is happening here. I laugh at his technical complaints, this game runs 5x better than Origins ever could on 360.

Amen... on PC, too.  An entire playthough an not one single crash, DLC authorization error, or bizzare texture glitch.  I even got use to the camera.

[DTKT]

I like how the score doesnt make any sense.

It even made the metacritic average drop to 79.

Hahaha.

[Haxas]

Merced652 wrote...

Haxas wrote...

"Disclosures: This game was obtained via retail store and reviewed on the Xbox 360. Approximately 22 hours of play were devoted to the single-player mode, and the game was completed. There are no multiplayer modes."

22 Hours?

Did he even do any of the sidequests or read the dialogue?

Sorry, that's bull.

Overglorifying Origins is all that is happening here. I laugh at his technical complaints, this game runs 5x better than Origins ever could on 360.

Read dialogue? Huh? This game is fully voiced sweetheart. The only thing you need to read is a picture. Alos, 22 hours is probably just about average for people who don't frivalously waste time in game. 

There's a subtitle option in the game menu's, I typically listen to the conversations I'm interested in and just read the filler content.

I say 22 hours is a bit of a rush through the game. Based on my friend's and I time (we're avid gamers) we clocked in at 32-33 hours, while our friend who just did the main game did 21 hours. The only reason I point this out is because the reviewer criticized the dialogue and companion quests, while 21 hours is hardly enough time to beat the primary quests only and listen to dialogue.

[Vormaerin]

Merced652 wrote...

Funny, its almost like thats what nearly everyone who disagreed with the reviewer happened to do. Total mindjob right?

No, its not at all like that.  I disagreed with his opinion.  Also, since he is a paid reviewer and not a blogger, I have a reasonable expectation to some sense of professionalism.   Posting a misleading score is the act of an amateur, not a professional.  It is reasonable to point that out.  

A few people attacked the reviewer rather than his review, but it is not "nearly everyone".   There is a big difference between "I think your opinion is wrong" and "you have substandard intelligence".   The individual that poster responded to doesn't seem to quite grasp that, so there is no point in talking to him.

[Gyre]

1varangian wrote...

Then again DA2 a sequel. And a blatant attempt at milking the cash cow after Origin's success. Short development cycle, shorter story, many corners cut in development, aggressive marketing, day 1 DLC etc. And changing the setting and gameplay to attract a new audience at the cost of alienating the established fans...

It just might deserve a 2.5 in that context.

Now there's a sensible realization. (No sarcasm to clarify).

[Demx]

Just curious, how many recent games have ever scored below a 4 out of 10 by paid reviewers?

[Namevah]

Pyrate_d wrote...
If you disagree, you have no taste, and don't matter in the slightest.

So you're one of those "Your opinion isn't the same as mine, so you're wrong" people.

Good.

Modifié par Dry County, 24 mars 2011 - 01:01 .

[Firky]

Siradix wrote...

Just curious, how many recent games have ever scored below a 4 out of 10 by paid reviewers?

A good website or magazine will publish its criteria. Less than 5 is generally pretty scathing. I'd say, from reading lots of reviews that "professional" review scores go lower than 5 less than 25% of the time. (But that's based on what I read. How would you tell?)

PS. It also depends on what the outlet is reviewing; everything, a genre, mostly big titles, niche like Indie, etc. And, whether there is a general trend to review games on their own merits or as sequels or within their genre. Also, how much licence a reviewer has to put in their own enjoyment, or lack of. It's complicated. Sigh. I hate scores.

Modifié par Firky, 24 mars 2011 - 01:06 .

[AcidRelic]

WOW, I actually agree with him on a few points. The characters(some) and their interactions are too standard and you get "spurts' of growth not long term growing and emotional connection. Levels and the reuse of areas was a big concern, and where you see the most influence on the time frame they had.

The combat I didn't have a problem with EXCEPT the "spawn on your HEAD" mobs, make them walk in from an entrance or something come on!!  The overall story I liked, it wasn't for everybody, you had to think and not be spoonfed, I liked the  "real life things don't always go your way" feeling and story.

I would have given this game around a 6 or 7 out of 10, but thats me and I actually played the WHOLE game unlike the reviewer, yes he completed it and put 22 hours in but he could't have done almost ANY of the side, secondary or companion quests in 22 hours. I'm on my 3rd playthrough and I average 15-19 hours in just ACT 1!!  Over all I'm not LOVING this game and the mistakes I see but I can play it and do have fun.

[keginkc]

I see the trolling hasn't calmed down yet.

Maybe next week.

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

RohanD wrote...

 http://www.gamecriti...n-age-ii-review
Many are praising Brad's honesty and integrity. I agree with them. 

Discuss.

EDIT: READ THE WHOLE REVIEW before posting. Don't just look at the score and fanboy flame it. 

This just shows basically that there are a lot of idiots that aren't judging this game by its own merits but instead by how much it manages to clone the ancient sacred RPG mechanics.

2.5 is a score you give to completely broken games. Dragon Age 2 is much better than that.

[Welly321]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Wasn't a very good review. And that score tells me he's not very competant as a professional reviewer. 2.5/5 sure. 2.5/10? The game should barely be able to run.

By completely ignoring the parts that were done right, it made the whole thing just read like another biased rant we could read right here on the forums.

Completely agree with you man. He loses all credibility for rating it 2.5/10. I could see 2.5/5 but cmon. The game works and is ORIGINAL. that alone scores it points. The way the plot was done with the continueing sidequests was very immersive for me. It made me feel like I was actually living in the city through the time I spent playing.

[Zhijn]

Dont really care about his "score" but what the reviewer has to say isnt fare from the truth.

In my opinion DA2 is a "OK" game for what it is (hack first n' second rpg, mass effect style just with swords).  However this title was to be the rpg game being the sequel to DAO (in a matter of speaking). But sadly no, it turned into another mindless gorey action game with little to no care for the story and the overall RPG.  Way to many corners were cut.

it just seems with each sequel bioware putts out they try to appeal to some wider and larger market for unknown reason, and the quality of the game just bombs. Its a shame really.

[XX55XX]

I actually agree with this review.

I liked DA2, but as a game coming from a studio with BioWare's pedigree, it's a mess.

The first act is filled with nothing but fetch quests. The second and third acts are better, but any attempts to link together into something greater and more overarching are feeble at best.

And the companion conversations are so damn short - even shorter than the conversations in ME2.

[RohanD]

Final Fantasy XIV got a 4/10 by gamespot. Was it deserved? Probably. Did the fanboys leap to it's defense, most definitely.

[Sordahon1]

RohanD wrote...

Many people praise psychos?

What planet are you from?

The score is harsh, but the words carry great meaning and depth. Read them, then read the comments. Many people agree with the review.

Alex Klebold who killed high school students in columbine were and still are seen by some people as heroes. I agree with the review though. It was a big disappointment. I myself have never encountered a crash,glitch or messed up save games but it still sucks that there is basically no exploration and the whole area feels small. 

[srieser]

This "reviewer" is fishing for traffic for his site. Controversial/low scores get passed around like a playboy magazine at a boyscout camp. He's feeding the nerd rage.

The game isn't perfect but doesn't deserve anything less than a 7.5

[skyrend]

Most accurate DA2 review I've seen.

[Cody211282]

DarkSpiral wrote...

Pyrate_d wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Wasn't a very good review. And that score tells me he's not very competant as a professional reviewer. 2.5/5 sure. 2.5/10 the game shouldn't barely be able to run on its own.

All I get from this post is "I just looked at the score and decided his review sucked"

STOP READING SO MUCH INTO THE SCORE. LOOK AT THE REVIEW. HE'S RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING.

No he isn't.  The writing is top notch, he just doesn't like it.  The artisitc quality of the areas are top notch, he just doesn't like it.  The rehash of the map is....well that actually that really does suck.  I think pretty much everyone agrees that Bioware very badly dropped the ball on that one.

And, yes the score is exaggerated and unporfessional.  People keep saying don't concentrate on the score, read the review.  So...the score isn't part of the review then?  A blatantly skewed, subjective, unprofessional part?  I don't have agree or disagree with any of the opinions he has, but I certainly can disapprove of the blantant unporfessionalism.

How is it unporfessional at all?