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[aksoileau]

You can agree with the review if you want, but 2.5/10 is off. Its not accurate. But hey it's just my opinion.

[neppakyo]

skyrend wrote...

Most accurate DA2 review I've seen.

Amen. Agree as well.

Although I don't agree with the score, and i see the point of such a low score to get attention and his point across, imho, as a bioware/dragon age game, maybe a 5/10 would of been more appropriate. If it wasn't a sequel (they advertised DA2 as a sequel to DAO) I would agree to a score of around 6 or 7 /10. Its an average game.

Its not a terrible game, its decent and as some good to it, its the failures outweigh everything.

And so far I'm finding the DA2 defenders to be worse than the DA2 haters. *shrug*

[Muff Juice]

The game is advertised as an rpg. It's also advertised as the sequel to the "spiritual successor" of one of the greatest, if not the greatest rpg's of all time. It fails so badly on these counts and in fact fails miserably to shine in any genre you'd care to place it in. The authors points are valid, the score is generous.

[Mage One]

It reads less like he expected more from DA2 and more like he expected different and is upset enough over the fact that he takes it out on the whole game. I don't agree with his score, and I don't agree with his reason for giving it. His wholesale indictment of every part of the game seemed disingenuous, and in several cases factually inaccurate. There is a definition in the dictionary for the word "sparse." By no stretch of it could you apply this definition to the graphics in every single area in the game. I wouldn't call this a review with integrity even if I agreed with him. A review with integrity would acknowledge the good and weigh it against the bad, not lambaste the game's entirety with hyperbole. In a sentence detailing the game's various glitches, he ends complaining about there being so many load screens. Even if it DA2 had significantly more load screens than every other Bioware game (it does not) coupled with significantly worse graphics (Again not the case. The quality of the art direction may be subjective, the quality of the graphics really is not), putting the quantity of load screens in with the glitches is not good journalism.

As a whole, I don't know why I bothered reading the whole thing or commenting on it. He did his readers a disservice.

[ginzaen]

Pyrate_d wrote...

It's scary that Bioware can offer crap when people are expecting something good, and still have people choking down the crap, convincing themselves that they like it. I wanted to like it too at first, because it's a lot more fun to enjoy a game than to hate it. 

I'm not choking down the crap or convincing myself anything? just because you dislike it- doesn't mean everyone else does- I like dragon age origins, awakening and dragon age 2 and while i'm enjoying the franchise i'l keep playing it.

[Gyre]

aksoileau wrote...

You can agree with the review if you want, but 2.5/10 is off. Its not accurate. But hey it's just my opinion.

This. Maybe his score does reflect an "angry butthurt fanboy" as several people have already mentioned, but that doesn't make many of his points any less valid.

[Raycer X]

This guy has valid points and the descriptions of the problems are accurate... Wow.

[RohanD]

The graphics in the game are just not up to par with games of this generation. Bioware do not have good graphics in their games. If you compare then to almost any other AAA studio, it's a joke. The only thing they had going for them previously was nice art direction and bigger, more open worlds.

DA2 threw both those out the window, so what are we left with? The change in art direction made the game a lot more boring to look at than Origins. I am playing NWN2 now, and this game proves how much of a huge difference good art direction makes. The graphics are from 2007, but the world is immediately more immersive than DA2's pseudo Saturday morning cartoon mixed with b grade zombie flick style.

The review score is very low, but the points he raised are completely valid.

[DarkSpiral]

Cody211282 wrote...

How is it unprofessional at all?

Allow me to suggest you watch or read Adam Sessler's review of the game.  He touches on both good and bad points, rates the game as mid-quality rather than stellar (which he, and most everyone else, expected it to be) but doesn't end his review with some reactionary, completely ridiculous score that undermines his credibility by demonstrating his need to express his outrage that the game isn't what he wanted it to be.  The review is heavily biased.  Which is not the same thing as being wrong on all the points he brought up.  But people that are being paid to review games should be held to a higher standard than we keep for the avergae blog.  And that's what this review felt like; a blog post.  It's a perfectly valid opinion!  As a game review, it fails miserably to do anything but convey the blogger's contempt.

[Lord_Valandil]

Gotta love the fanboys.
Surely Bioware can fill a box with garbage and you'll still call it an awesome box full of more awesomeness, and anyone who tries to defy that "logic" is either a troll or a "butthurt whiner".
I agree with the review. Harsh, but true.
My 7/10 is really generous.

[ResoluteOne]

All I wonder is why in the world Bioware would spend so much time changing the mechanics and graphics. It is not even if the changes are good or bad, it is just what for?  What a waste of time.  There is nothing technically wrong with Origins or Awakening.  They should have been building Orlais, Kal Sharok, Antiva and The Anderfels in the old engine so we could could make an epic journey to them all.   Even if the game is somewhat fun by general standards of video games, that is why it is a  failure.

[Osena109]

 untill now i have never herd of this 3rd rate critic    and this will be last review ill read on there site its so full  of bile and hate   that is why i trust IGN and gamespot when it comes to reviws

[Greig91]

Pyrate_d wrote...

It's like someone who thinks that Armageddon is a better movie than Taxi Driver. It's a perfectly valid opinion, but they're still wrong. And there's really no point in arguing with a person who inhabits such a lower plane of existence.

Alright so so far people who disagree with the review "have no taste", "don't matter" and are a "person who inhabits such a lower plane of existence" (than yourself, presumably). You're just bitter and arrogant. That's why you completely agree with the review. Because the person who wrote it is equally as bitter. Although to his credit, he didn't insult people who like the game. So in terms of arrogance you've got him beat.

I also had to laugh at your comment about the people "defending" DA2 doing damage. I guess you're meaning damage to DA3? You're not exactly helping yourself. Do you honestly think anyone cares what a person like you thinks? Someone with your attitude? I can tell you for a fact that no matter what you say from this point onwards, no one that isn't as bitter as you are will care in the slightest about what you think. All you've done with your insults is prove that all you're really after is a game that is tailored to suit you, and you alone. And maybe that game would turn out great, I don't know. But to be honest I'd much prefer to leave the whole thing in the professional game designers' hands, than have it influenced by some bitter nut-job like yourself. And I reckon Bioware will share that preference.


The complaints that the reviewer makes are all true to a point. But he blows them out of proportion on a ridiculous scale. The only part of the review where I feel he even comes close to being fair is the part where he talks about the recycled areas. The level of recycling that goes on in this game is disgraceful, I'll definitely give him that. But everything else in this review has been blown up due to his incredible, and quite frankly disturbing, bitterness. That's the reason he gave the game a 2.5/10. He didn't give it that score to exaggerate a point. He wasn't even trying to make a point with the score, let alone exaggerate one. He gave it that score because he genuinely believes that that's the score it desveres. Read the review, he hated the game on an insane level and he let it get in the way of him doing his job in a professional manner. If it wasn't for the fact that the points he raised were actually relevant, the review would be about on par with one of those ridiculous YouTube reviews that consist of twenty minutes of some screaming man-child throwing the rattle out of the pram.

[Bryy_Miller]

Pyrate_d wrote...
I can't believe people are so fixated on the number, when his review is so perfect.

You really can stop repeating yourself now.

[Cody211282]

DarkSpiral wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

How is it unprofessional at all?

Allow me to suggest you watch or read Adam Sessler's review of the game.  He touches on both good and bad points, rates the game as mid-quality rather than stellar (which he, and most everyone else, expected it to be) but doesn't end his review with some reactionary, completely ridiculous score that undermines his credibility by demonstrating his need to express his outrage that the game isn't what he wanted it to be.  The review is heavily biased.  Which is not the same thing as being wrong on all the points he brought up.  But people that are being paid to review games should be held to a higher standard than we keep for the avergae blog.  And that's what this review felt like; a blog post.  It's a perfectly valid opinion!  As a game review, it fails miserably to do anything but convey the blogger's contempt.

I think Sessler's and Game Informers reveiws are the best I have seen for this game, and agree with them on most things(for this game at least). But I also think that since this is a reveiw for entertainment and thus is based off of how much the reveiw enjoyed it I think as long as he can justify his reasons he is doing his job.

Now I don't agree with the score(I think a 7 hit it on the head for me, above average but much lower then a Bioware game should be) but he is alwawed to give it what he wants because he backed them up. As for being Biased, well it's impossible to reveiw a movie/game/book without being a bit biased, because it's based on what you like and not fact.

[srieser]

DA:O wasn't a big open world. It was a series of levels, more so than DA:2 granted, but it's no open world like Oblivion. I don't know what bugs me more the low scores for DA:2 or the impossibly high pedestal DA:O is falsely placed.

[Lord_Valandil]

Greig91 wrote...
Read the review, he hated the game on an insane level and he let it get in the way of him doing his job in a professional manner.

I agree with everything the critic pointed out.
Am I insane? Am I butthurt?
You can think whatever you want. You can love the game, I won't stop you.
But it's really depressing how some people just want to pretend that nothing's wrong and that the game is a perfect masterpiece.

Wake up. It is not.

[Cody211282]

Osena109 wrote...

 untill now i have never herd of this 3rd rate critic    and this will be last review ill read on there site its so full  of bile and hate   that is why i trust IGN and gamespot when it comes to reviws

I don't trust IGN because they hand out good scorse to just about everything. And I don't trust Gamespot because if an advertiser wants they can buy a reveiw(or get the reveiw fired).

[TJPags]

I agree with pretty much everything that guy said.

Don't know who he is, and don't care. But everything he said is pretty much spot on, IMO.

[MarkItZero]

He should have just wrote an article titled "What I don't like about DA2". This is so far from being an objective review, and it undermines the industry/review practice just as much as those who would stamp "10/10!" for kickbacks.

It doesn't matter if he was spot on about the flaws. He said nothing at all about the good aspects. Anyone who says this game is devoid of "good" is just plain mad.

Modifié par MarkItZero, 24 mars 2011 - 01:57 .

[Zubie]

I actually liked DA2 quite a bit but I agree with many things mentioned in the review.

[Mongerty2]

For a "professional" (I use the term lightly since he doesn't seem to actually review many games) he is pretty misguided. I mean, if you read his other reviews he at least finds positive things to talk about. Hate on Dragon Age 2 all you want, but it is a cold day in hell before you can convince me it is better than "Tron Evolution".......

He has some legitimate complaints, but they do not add up to a 2.5 (which I honestly couldn't find actually listed anywhere, just that metacritic has it listed at a 25). As a reviewer, you have to go in with an unbiased point of view. He did not have that. He completely trashed the game without pointing out any redeeming factors (Spoiler, there are some).

This entire review is simply him riding the sentiment that the community has been yelling, and him trying to cash in on the support that all the negative people will give him. That is why you are seeing it now and not 2 weeks ago.

[TJPags]

MarkItZero wrote...

He should have just wrote an article titled "What I don't like about DA2". This is so far from being an objective review, and it undermines the industry/review practice just as much as those who would stamp "10/10!" for kickbacks.

It doesn't matter if he was spot on about the flaws. He said nothing at all about the good aspects. Anyone who says this game is devoid of "good" is just plain mad.

Maybe he simply didn't see any "good" aspects.

I'm not sure I did.  I found a few "okay" aspects . . .but none I'd really call "good".

[Kusy]

Two pages of OP trying to tell everyone the score is off but the writen review is good right... and then people still posting that the score is off.

[Osena109]

Cody211282 wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

 untill now i have never herd of this 3rd rate critic    and this will be last review ill read on there site its so full  of bile and hate   that is why i trust IGN and gamespot when it comes to reviws

I don't trust IGN because they hand out good scorse to just about everything. And I don't trust Gamespot because if an advertiser wants they can buy a reveiw(or get the reveiw fired).

the critic that did this review was down right zelot and on top of that he was baseing his review of gameplay on xbox for pc and PS3  my verric new moonwalked    my mobs never spawned form thin air they  ran in if you wanted to do   review he should have played on all platforms   if any thing  PC is smooth and i never hade any of the bugs this review  is pissin and maoning about that is all i am saying