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[Shamajotsi]

I love how the OP puts "Gamecritics: 2.5..." in the very beginning of the title of this thread and later goes 5 pages explaining how, you see, the score isn't important. It's as if he created a thread called "Brad Somebody from Gamecritics proves that Obama is Stalin reborn!" and later rants how we didn't read the article, which was actually about demotivational posters with Putin.

[Firky]

Paeyne wrote...

5/10 to me is average... when did 4/10 become scathing?

I am sorry but there is plenty of crap on the market that deserved much lower than the critics gave it.

When complete crap is receiving 5s, average games are receiving 7s and above average games are receiving 8s and 9s the scale has been shot to hell.

As I said.. I don't think DA2 deserved a 2.5 but it does balance out the rest of the industry reviews, many of which are artifically inflated.

Does depend on the outlet's criteria, of course. And, if readers were more aware of criteria, there would be less score confusion.

One of the mags I've reviewed for clearly states, and I quote, "5 is a decidedly average game - the ultimate in mediocrity. Below this you'll start to find the games our reviewers suffered an aneurysm getting through." That's pretty scathing, but it's just one example, and designed to be humorous.

That's very general, and reviewers very often clarify how they scored more explicitly, but scores have to be taken in the context of criteria and, surely, with a bit of a laugh rather than genuine "I can't believe they gave this a 10" or whatever. Scores are a complex beast, which I'm sure most reviewers take very seriously, presumably even 2.5 guy thought it through carefully.

As to why most games score above 5? I don't really know, but I'd guess that outlets, in general, genuinely like games and gaming. I mean, gaming is supposed to be fun. Reviewers do the job because they are passionate about gaming and enjoy games. Better games are more likely to get time/attention/a page in a magazine? I dunno.

[CRISIS1717]

Very generous of them, this game deserves a 1.

[RohanD]

Shamajotsi wrote...

I love how the OP puts "Gamecritics: 2.5..." in the very beginning of the title of this thread and later goes 5 pages explaining how, you see, the score isn't important. It's as if he created a thread called "Brad Somebody from Gamecritics proves that Obama is Stalin reborn!" and later rants how we didn't read the article, which was actually about demotivational posters with Putin.

Excuse me, but can you please quote where I go "on and on" for 5 pages about the score not being important? I never said that.

I think the score is important. I agree with it. 

[Gyre]

Shamajotsi wrote...

I love how the OP puts "Gamecritics: 2.5..." in the very beginning of the title of this thread and later goes 5 pages explaining how, you see, the score isn't important. It's as if he created a thread called "Brad Somebody from Gamecritics proves that Obama is Stalin reborn!" and later rants how we didn't read the article, which was actually about demotivational posters with Putin.

That title catches attention, and look at the results. Can't really blame him..

[jbblue05]

At worse DA2 deserves a 7.

To give this game a 2.5 screams "I'm pissed that I'm not playing as the warden",

[DrGulag]

The review is spot on but that score is too low.

This game deserves atleast a 4 or a 5 out of 10. That's what I gave it.

[RohanD]

neppakyo wrote...

RohanD wrote...

no no...you see.../sarcasm...

I forgot my sarcasm and humour html tag

I'm not sure if my fanboy translation device is working correctly but I'm pretty sure that also makes you a troll...

I don't know how...but I think it has something to do with you not mentioning your overflowing love and admiration for DA2 in your post...

Yep...that's it. Anyone who says anything other than DA2 is great is a troll. ANYTHING. 

Here's an example

normal guy: Hi

fanboy: troll

normal guy: wha....

fanboy: troll

normal guy: but...

fanboy: why hasn't anyone perma banned this troll yet?

normal guy: wait perma ban...what? why would you..

fanboy: troll

normal guy: you know I'm getting pretty tired of..

fanboy: lol troll harder troll

normal guy: okay, that's it, I'm leaving

fanboy: cool story troll. 

Modifié par RohanD, 24 mars 2011 - 02:48 .

[Zanderat]

RohanD wrote...

 http://www.gamecriti...n-age-ii-review
Many are praising Brad's honesty and integrity. I agree with them. 

Discuss.

EDIT: READ THE WHOLE REVIEW before posting. Don't just look at the score and fanboy flame it. 

Spot on.

[neppakyo]

RohanD wrote...

neppakyo wrote...

RohanD wrote...

no no...you see.../sarcasm...

I forgot my sarcasm and humour html tag

I'm not sure if my fanboy translation device is working correctly but I'm pretty sure that also makes you a troll...

I don't know how...but I think it has something to do with you not mentioning your overflowing love and admiration for DA2 in your post...

Yep...that's it. Anyone who says anything other than DA2 is great is a troll. ANYTHING. 

Here's an example

normal guy: Hi

fanboy: troll

normal guy: wha....

fanboy: troll

normal guy: but...

fanboy: why hasn't anyone perma banned this troll yet?

normal guy: wait perma ban...what? why would you..

fanboy: troll

normal guy: you know I'm getting pretty tired of..

fanboy: lol troll harder troll

normal guy: okay, that's it, I'm leaving

fanboy: cool story troll. 

that made me laugh. XD Flip back a page or two and see my post about agreeing with the review

[Osena109]

Cody211282 wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

 untill now i have never herd of this 3rd rate critic    and this will be last review ill read on there site its so full  of bile and hate   that is why i trust IGN and gamespot when it comes to reviws

I don't trust IGN because they hand out good scorse to just about everything. And I don't trust Gamespot because if an advertiser wants they can buy a reveiw(or get the reveiw fired).

the critic that did this review was down right zelot and on top of that he was baseing his review of gameplay on xbox for pc and PS3  my verric new moonwalked    my mobs never spawned form thin air they  ran in if you wanted to do   review he should have played on all platforms   if any thing  PC is smooth and i never hade any of the bugs this review  is pissin and maoning about that is all i am saying

I'm playing on the PC and ran into all sorta of bugs, and if you haver had mobs pop out of nowhere then you are not playing this game.

i am so playing this game and i have never hade this issue maby  its you  PC and you got ruber band lag issue i am runing a quad core and i have GTX  460 super clocked and about 8 gigs of ram  like i said my game is smooth and i have never hade mobs come form thin air or any of these ground brakeing bugs you all claim to have

[RohanD]

Gyre wrote...

Shamajotsi wrote...

I love how the OP puts "Gamecritics: 2.5..." in the very beginning of the title of this thread and later goes 5 pages explaining how, you see, the score isn't important. It's as if he created a thread called "Brad Somebody from Gamecritics proves that Obama is Stalin reborn!" and later rants how we didn't read the article, which was actually about demotivational posters with Putin.

That title catches attention, and look at the results. Can't really blame him..

Is someone confusing me with someone else? You know just because I am the mystery man, it doesn't mean I am ALL mystery men...ALL the time....or am I?

[Distilled]

The score is very appropriate in the context the reviewer was taking it to; in that he was comparing it pretty much strictly to Origins. In general when compared to all games the game should be between 5-7 as it's not bad... just mediocre and disappointing.

All the points in there are pretty dead on.

[Serpieri Nei]

DA2 rates a 4.5 as a stand alone game
DA2 rates a 2 as a sequel to DA:O

[Shamajotsi]

Oops, sorry, RohanD, seems that I've taken Pyrate_d to be also you, my bad.

Either way, you've said that most of the people there agree on that score, but most of the people here don't. Most of the people who post on <insert random non-game related forum> don't give a damn. So, yeah, I don't know what sort of point were you trying to make with this "disapproval by democracy", but it certainly isn't valid anymore...

[RohanD]

Wow, so many registered game owners approving of this review. Who'd have thought? Bioware? You there?

[Cody211282]

Osena109 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

 untill now i have never herd of this 3rd rate critic    and this will be last review ill read on there site its so full  of bile and hate   that is why i trust IGN and gamespot when it comes to reviws

I don't trust IGN because they hand out good scorse to just about everything. And I don't trust Gamespot because if an advertiser wants they can buy a reveiw(or get the reveiw fired).

the critic that did this review was down right zelot and on top of that he was baseing his review of gameplay on xbox for pc and PS3  my verric new moonwalked    my mobs never spawned form thin air they  ran in if you wanted to do   review he should have played on all platforms   if any thing  PC is smooth and i never hade any of the bugs this review  is pissin and maoning about that is all i am saying

I'm playing on the PC and ran into all sorta of bugs, and if you haver had mobs pop out of nowhere then you are not playing this game.

i am so playing this game and i have never hade this issue maby  its you  PC and you got ruber band lag issue i am runing a quad core and i have GTX  460 super clocked and about 8 gigs of ram  like i said my game is smooth and i have never hade mobs come form thin air or any of these ground brakeing bugs you all claim to have

I'm going to assume english isn't your first language.

Ask anyone if mobs pop out of nowere, it's not a bug it's part of the damn game, thats why you have wave after wave of mercs trying to kill you all the time(and what the hell is up with Bioware and merc recently).

The Isabella/Sebetian friendship bugs are also ones that happen to everyone(or at least people who use them alot).
The Mareil plot glitch, The rescue quest glitch, all of these are happening to a large amount of the player base.

Also let me say this one more time THE MOBS POP OUT OF THE MOTHER F***ING AIR(sorry but that is my biggest gripe with this game, well that and them only making 1 of every location).

[Cody211282]

RohanD wrote...

Wow, so many registered game owners approving of this review. Who'd have thought? Bioware? You there?

So far I have only seen them show up in the threads that say how much people liked the game, or in the constructive criticism thread.

[Abispa]

I don't mind people saying they're unhappy with Dragon Age 2, because how can I argue with them? "No, you really DID enjoy it, you bastard!" I'm just disappointed when someone puts up a critic's score or posts a link to a review and dares others to challenge the critic being quoted instead of arguing his own points. It's like my old roommate who used to argue that I should stop watching my type of movies and instead go see his little watched "good" movies the critics seem to love so much. Whenever I asked him why he liked them, he'd start quoting Roger Ebert.

From what I gather, most game reviewers have a different gaming experience than I do. I can't afford to try out every game that comes out for my Xbox, so I tend to stick to what I know and creators I trust. I can enjoy a game on it's own merits without a limited attention span because I can't pick up and play the other two dozen new releases at a moment's notice. I don't have access to developers' betas to butter me up, nor do I have the ability to try out most games until they hit the bargain rack. I usually love Bioware games, so DA2 was a rare early purchase for me. I enjoyed it, but I probably would have been just as happy with it if it was a surprise I bought at the bargain special edition bin with all the DLCs included on the disc.

Most people I know (and their opinions are the only ones who influence mine) agree with me that the game is enjoyable and had some improvements over DA:O, particularly the conversation wheel, characters, and player combat controls. But it severely disappointed in areas that didn't need fixing, like map design. The sad part is that map design and random combat generation in the first game was very good and much better than DA2. The city of Kirkwall and nearby caves looked pretty for the moment, but the multitude of "blocked" cave entrances and cemented-over doorways screamed lazy Neverwinter Nights player-made module.

[ashwind]

It is clear while we generally agree to the flaws in DA2 pointed out repeatedly everywhere, our differences is just how emotionally we would rate it.

The reviewer's expectation of Bioware is so high that in his review he only sees all the flaws and disregard the smallest of improvement made in DA2 - too emotional a review thus far from a creditable one.

For many who feel that Origins was one of the greatest if not the greatest western RPG and wanted more of Origins, they will slam DA2 emotionally. For those who are not that impressed by Origins - not so much.

Modifié par ashwind, 24 mars 2011 - 03:02 .

[Mongerty2]

RohanD wrote...

Wow, so many registered game owners approving of this review. Who'd have thought? Bioware? You there?

You may not be a troll but you sure are an ass.

[RohanD]

Shamajotsi wrote...

Oops, sorry, RohanD, seems that I've taken Pyrate_d to be also you, my bad.

Either way, you've said that most of the people there agree on that score, but most of the people here don't. Most of the people who post on <insert random non-game related forum> don't give a damn. So, yeah, I don't know what sort of point were you trying to make with this "disapproval by democracy", but it certainly isn't valid anymore...

Your blindness knows no bounds obviously. Many people in this thread are supporting and agreeing with that review. They have all purchased the game.

Many people on the review site, in the comments, agree with the review. 

[RohanD]

Mongerty2 wrote...

RohanD wrote...

Wow, so many registered game owners approving of this review. Who'd have thought? Bioware? You there?

You may not be a troll but you sure are an ass.

So I complain about a game which I paid for and which sucks, like so many others are doing, and that makes me an ass?

Wow you are the customer from heaven!

Modifié par RohanD, 24 mars 2011 - 03:03 .

[Shamajotsi]

"Gamecritics score: 2.5, and MOST comments agree with it " -> the name of the thread.

Now, should we count how many people here have said anything ranging from "I agree with what he says, but 2.5/10 is way too harsh" to "I can't believe he just gave DA2, which is otherwise ok/good/so perfect, 2.5/10"?

Modifié par Shamajotsi, 24 mars 2011 - 03:04 .

[Distilled]

RohanD wrote...

Mongerty2 wrote...

RohanD wrote...

Wow, so many registered game owners approving of this review. Who'd have thought? Bioware? You there?

You may not be a troll but you sure are an ass.

So I complain about a game which sucks, like so many others are doing, and that makes me an ass?

Gee you are the customer from heaven!

It's largely the obnoxious and ass-like tone, not that you're complaining about the game...