458 réponses à ce sujet

[neppakyo]

Cody211282 wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

i am so playing this game and i have never hade this issue maby  its you  PC and you got ruber band lag issue i am runing a quad core and i have GTX  460 super clocked and about 8 gigs of ram  like i said my game is smooth and i have never hade mobs come form thin air or any of these ground brakeing bugs you all claim to have

I'm going to assume english isn't your first language.

Ask anyone if mobs pop out of nowere, it's not a bug it's part of the damn game, thats why you have wave after wave of mercs trying to kill you all the time(and what the hell is up with Bioware and merc recently).

The Isabella/Sebetian friendship bugs are also ones that happen to everyone(or at least people who use them alot).
The Mareil plot glitch, The rescue quest glitch, all of these are happening to a large amount of the player base.

Also let me say this one more time THE MOBS POP OUT OF THE MOTHER F***ING AIR(sorry but that is my biggest gripe with this game, well that and them only making 1 of every location).

Cool PC system spec time! Mine, AMD Phenom II X4 quad, cooking at 3.8ghz. eVGA Geforce GTX 460 cooking at 825mhz core, 4100mhz memory. And playing DA2 on the PC ofcourse.

And I have had the Isabella bug, and the mobs popping out of thin air, and also BESIDE/ON hawke or another companion. And The Merril bug as well. Mind you, loading screens were less than 20 seconds for me for the longest loads.

God damn I abhor the mob wave fights. mash keys, blink look around pay slightly more attention to the mini-bosses and bosses, continue key mashing.

Modifié par neppakyo, 24 mars 2011 - 03:05 .

[Merced652]

Mongerty2 wrote...

RohanD wrote...

Wow, so many registered game owners approving of this review. Who'd have thought? Bioware? You there?

You may not be a troll but you sure are an ass.

For pointing this out? lolwhy?

[Gyre]

Can't we limit our posts to our personal opinion on the topic instead of lashing out at others?

[RohanD]

Merced652 wrote...

Mongerty2 wrote...

RohanD wrote...

Wow, so many registered game owners approving of this review. Who'd have thought? Bioware? You there?

You may not be a troll but you sure are an ass.

For pointing this out? lolwhy?

I have only one thing to say to Mongerty2:

r00fles!

[Distilled]

Gyre wrote...

Can't we limit our posts to our personal opinion on the topic instead of lashing out at others?

Blasphemy!

[skyrend]

I'm not sure why people are saying the review is accurate but the score isn't.  Is it because game journalists don't go below a 5-6 unless it's almost unplayable?  The reviewer doesn't list ONE positive thing about the game.  I'd say his 2.5/10 is accurate to the review.

If this game was judged like a movie, as in x/5 stars, I would easily give it 1-2/5 stars.

[Erode_The_Soul]

Like I said in the other thread about this review, I don't see how anyone could honestly rate this game this low based soley on the game itself. It might be that you don't like DA2 for any number of completely valid reasons, but this kind of score is reserved for the lowest of the low. This kind of score is reserved for games that are quite literally unplayable or games of such substandard quality as Superman 64 or any number of movie-to-game games. I wholeheartedly believe that there is no way someone can honestly give this game a 2.5 based on the game on it's own and it has to be influenced by his resentment that DA2 wasn't as fantastic as DAO.

Just to be clear, my disbelief at the low score does not mean I don't understand the negative criticisms. There are several legitimate, glaring, ubelievable flaws in this game and there is nothing wrong with constantly and repeatedly pointing these flaws out. My issue comes with the numerical rating, as such a low score tends to mean a
game is unplayable which is just absolutely not the case here.

Such a ridiculously low score coupled with some snide comments about those who might enjoy the game for it's  merits reeks of unprofessionalism and makes me wary to trust this reviewers opinion in the future.

Modifié par Erode_The_Soul, 24 mars 2011 - 03:08 .

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Meh.

He made some good points, but he magnified how bad the shortcomings of DA2 are by tenfold (which is a common problem everywhere). Writing is still good, as are the characters, so I don't see where everyone is getting this idea of DA2 being a made for SyFy movie. Also, it's not my damn fault the reviewer has trouble connecting to the characters, which somehow makes them "shallow". No problem with that on my end. The plot IS a bit unfocused, BUT it is not thrown all over the place either. Could it be better? Yes. It's far from terrible however.

Combat is a bit more fun than in Origins imo. I prefer auto-attack myself, but the button mashing was never as tedious as everyone claims it to be. The skyfalling enemies are actually jumping off the roofs or other elevated platforms. Not a big fan of them, but hey, they don't destroy my enjoyment of the game either. He's right about the repetition of the dungeons. I was disappointed with that but got over it. The positives of the game outweight the negatives.

DA2 is also much more polished than DA:O on the release bugwise (on PS3 at least). The only noteworthy bugs I encountered were Merrill's chronological bug, one unfinishable sidequest in Act 3, and the unrecognized romance flags. Other than that, the game ran like a champ. In my opinion DA2 deserves an 8.5 at the very least.

On a sidenote: This acting like every single employee of Bioware dropkicked your baby sister in succession needs to ****ing stop. You don't like the game, we GET IT.

Modifié par DrunkDeadman, 24 mars 2011 - 03:07 .

[toggled]

The score is accurate & fair, and also inline with what other non-paid review sites (such as metacritic and Amazon user reviews) are reporting.

[Osena109]

Cody211282 wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

 untill now i have never herd of this 3rd rate critic    and this will be last review ill read on there site its so full  of bile and hate   that is why i trust IGN and gamespot when it comes to reviws

I don't trust IGN because they hand out good scorse to just about everything. And I don't trust Gamespot because if an advertiser wants they can buy a reveiw(or get the reveiw fired).

the critic that did this review was down right zelot and on top of that he was baseing his review of gameplay on xbox for pc and PS3  my verric new moonwalked    my mobs never spawned form thin air they  ran in if you wanted to do   review he should have played on all platforms   if any thing  PC is smooth and i never hade any of the bugs this review  is pissin and maoning about that is all i am saying

I'm playing on the PC and ran into all sorta of bugs, and if you haver had mobs pop out of nowhere then you are not playing this game.

i am so playing this game and i have never hade this issue maby  its you  PC and you got ruber band lag issue i am runing a quad core and i have GTX  460 super clocked and about 8 gigs of ram  like i said my game is smooth and i have never hade mobs come form thin air or any of these ground brakeing bugs you all claim to have

I'm going to assume english isn't your first language.

Ask anyone if mobs pop out of nowere, it's not a bug it's part of the damn game, thats why you have wave after wave of mercs trying to kill you all the time(and what the hell is up with Bioware and merc recently).

The Isabella/Sebetian friendship bugs are also ones that happen to everyone(or at least people who use them alot).
The Mareil plot glitch, The rescue quest glitch, all of these are happening to a large amount of the player base.

Also let me say this one more time THE MOBS POP OUT OF THE MOTHER F***ING AIR(sorry but that is my biggest gripe with this game, well that and them only making 1 of every location).

fair enof the only glitch i have noticed was merrill  diolog bug  as if  i hade killed him tribe when i spared them other then that  its  great game don't see why people dislike it and english is not my frist its more like my 6th but for sake of the fourms i try my best to typ in it and i think am not bad as most

[Mongerty2]

RohanD wrote...

Mongerty2 wrote...

RohanD wrote...

Wow, so many registered game owners approving of this review. Who'd have thought? Bioware? You there?

You may not be a troll but you sure are an ass.

So I complain about a game which I paid for and which sucks, like so many others are doing, and that makes me an ass?

Wow you are the customer from heaven!

You have every right to complain, but the way you attack anyone who has issue with the review is sad. You pretty much sit here and insinuate that anybody who doesn't agree with you is some sort of mindless drone. (I need not point out the irony, I hope)

The reason I responded to that is because you are "talking" to Bioware...... You came off as an ass. I am sorry, but that is just how it is.

[Pirate JeraldxD]

2.5 seems really low, but it's a really good review, no bs. All the criticisms are all spot on the right place.

[shaneho78]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Meh.

He made some good points, but he magnified how bad the shortcomings of DA2 are by tenfold (which is a common problem everywhere). Writing is still good, as are the characters, so I don't see where everyone is getting this idea of DA2 being a made for SyFy movie. Also, it's not my damn fault the reviewer has trouble connecting to the characters, which somehow makes them "shallow". No problem with that on my end. The plot IS a bit unfocused, BUT it is not thrown all over the place either. Could it be better? Yes. It's far from terrible however.

Combat is a bit more fun than in Origins imo. I prefer auto-attack myself, but the button mashing was never as tedious as everyone claims it to be. The skyfalling enemies are actually jumping off the roofs or other elevated platforms. Not a big fan of them, but hey, they don't destroy my enjoyment of the game either. He's right about the repetition of the dungeons. I was disappointed with that but got over it. The positives of the game outweight the negatives.

DA2 is also much more polished than DA:O on the release bugwise (on PS3 at least). The only noteworthy bugs I encountered were Merrill's chronological bug, one unfinishable sidequest in Act 3, and the unrecognized romance flags. Other than that, the game ran like a champ. In my opinion DA2 deserves an 8.5 at the very least.

On a sidenote: This acting like every single employee of Bioware dropkicked your baby sister in succession needs to ****ing stop. You don't like the game, we GET IT.

This. Every single part. The OP agrees with the score? What if it's 2.4 or 2.3 etc....? I'm guessing the closer the zero, the more he agrees with it. 

[Uhh.. Jonah]

He is WAY too hard on the game. He was probably a die-hard fan just like us. The game really isn't that terrible to deserve such a score as that.

[Osena109]

neppakyo wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

Osena109 wrote...

i am so playing this game and i have never hade this issue maby  its you  PC and you got ruber band lag issue i am runing a quad core and i have GTX  460 super clocked and about 8 gigs of ram  like i said my game is smooth and i have never hade mobs come form thin air or any of these ground brakeing bugs you all claim to have

I'm going to assume english isn't your first language.

Ask anyone if mobs pop out of nowere, it's not a bug it's part of the damn game, thats why you have wave after wave of mercs trying to kill you all the time(and what the hell is up with Bioware and merc recently).

The Isabella/Sebetian friendship bugs are also ones that happen to everyone(or at least people who use them alot).
The Mareil plot glitch, The rescue quest glitch, all of these are happening to a large amount of the player base.

Also let me say this one more time THE MOBS POP OUT OF THE MOTHER F***ING AIR(sorry but that is my biggest gripe with this game, well that and them only making 1 of every location).

Cool PC system spec time! Mine, AMD Phenom II X4 quad, cooking at 3.8ghz. eVGA Geforce GTX 460 cooking at 825mhz core, 4100mhz memory. And playing DA2 on the PC ofcourse.

And I have had the Isabella bug, and the mobs popping out of thin air, and also BESIDE/ON hawke or another companion. And The Merril bug as well. Mind you, loading screens were less than 20 seconds for me for the longest loads.

God damn I abhor the mob wave fights. mash keys, blink look around pay slightly more attention to the mini-bosses and bosses, continue key mashing.

i have the same systeam just my quad is a intel Q6600 superclocked 

[RohanD]

Shamajotsi wrote...

"Gamecritics score: 2.5, and MOST comments agree with it " -> the name of the thread.

Now, should we count how many people here have said anything ranging from "I agree with what he says, but 2.5/10 is way too harsh" to "I can't believe he just gave DA2, which is otherwise ok/good/so perfect, 2.5/10"?

The comments. On the review page. Read them.  

You are missing the point entirely. Don't dance around the truth talking about "ranges". If you disagree with the score but agree with the points, then far out that still makes DA2 a rubbish game by ANYone's standard. You can't argue against that. The remarks he makes that people are AGREEING with are very harsh, and point to horrible things in the game. 

Well, people are agreeing with those. So you can put your fingers in your ear, and yell LA LA LA LA all you want. It won't change the reality.

DA2 is widely regarded as a lacklustre game. A terrible sequel to a fantastic start to a franchise, and one of if not the worst Bioware games to date.

Modifié par RohanD, 24 mars 2011 - 03:19 .

[packardbell]

Yes.. he brings up valid critercisms for the game. But noway does it deserve a 2.5.. I mean that's Two Worlds territory and that game is just abysmal in every shape and form. Also by using those critericsms Oblivion should also get a 2.5, i.e

copy n paste environments
shallow combat
main storyline is not very engaging

yet that game has got universal acclaim across the board - despite sharing the same flaws as DA2, it  boggles the mind truly.<_<

I can go on and on - but that score is flamebait.. doesn't matter what justification you come up with.

Modifié par packardbell, 24 mars 2011 - 03:24 .

[RohanD]

Mongerty2 wrote...

RohanD wrote...

Mongerty2 wrote...

RohanD wrote...

Wow, so many registered game owners approving of this review. Who'd have thought? Bioware? You there?

You may not be a troll but you sure are an ass.

So I complain about a game which I paid for and which sucks, like so many others are doing, and that makes me an ass?

Wow you are the customer from heaven!

You have every right to complain, but the way you attack anyone who has issue with the review is sad. You pretty much sit here and insinuate that anybody who doesn't agree with you is some sort of mindless drone. (I need not point out the irony, I hope)

The reason I responded to that is because you are "talking" to Bioware...... You came off as an ass. I am sorry, but that is just how it is.

I'm not calling anyone a mindless drone. I simply find it hilarious that there are people who will pay money for a product which is sub par and then go and defend it because of some misplaced brand loyalty. 

I didn't attack "anyone" who disagreed with the review. In fact, I only replied to people who actually chose to attack me first. It's another indication of who the real trolls on here are. 

So as I said, a customer who is not happy with a product and goes to complain about it is an ass in your books? I will say it again: "You are the customer from heaven!"

[Mongerty2]

RohanD wrote...


I'm not calling anyone a mindless drone. I simply find it hilarious that there are people who will pay money for a product which is sub par and then go and defend it because of some misplaced brand loyalty. 

I didn't attack "anyone" who disagreed with the review. In fact, I only replied to people who actually chose to attack me first. It's another indication of who the real trolls on here are. 

So as I said, a customer who is not happy with a product and goes to complain about it is an ass in your books? I will say it again: "You are the customer from heaven!"

You know what, you are right. I went back to see the comment that was there and it was not. I must have just been reading in-between the lines (or read the comment of another and mistook it as yours) I may not agree with you, but you are completely correct in calling me out for being such a tool. 

I am sorry for calling you an ass. It was I who spoke out of turn, and thus, was the ass.

[Shamajotsi]

RohanD wrote...

Shamajotsi wrote...

"Gamecritics score: 2.5, and MOST comments agree with it " -> the name of the thread.

Now, should we count how many people here have said anything ranging from "I agree with what he says, but 2.5/10 is way too harsh" to "I can't believe he just gave DA2, which is otherwise ok/good/so perfect, 2.5/10"?

The comments. On the review page. Read them.  

You are missing the point entirely. Don't dance around the truth talking about "ranges". If you disagree with the score but agree with the points, then far out that still makes DA2 a rubbish game by ANYone's standard. You can't argue against that. The remarks he makes that people are AGREEING with are very harsh, and point to horrible things in the game. 

Well, people are agreeing with those. So you can put your fingers in your ear, and yell LA LA LA LA all you want. It won't change the reality.

DA2 is widely regarded as a lacklustre game. A terrible sequel to a fantastic start to a franchise, and one of if not the worst Bioware game to date.

*Sigh* We have come to the point when we explain to each other how each of us understands perfectly the other's point, but the other doesn't. So... yes, I did see what you are trying to tell us: "Brad Somebody says DA2 is rubbish. People say he is right. He must be right." Now, see, however, how people here aren't that convinced. Basicaly, what I am trying to say is:

• Truth is not "democratically elected", although it might seem a good idea sometimes. Why is it not? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_State_Opera#Public_response
• Even if we were to decide DA2's merits by voting, I don't see the "DA2 is a complete piece of rubbish" clearly winning on this front.

[RohanD]

Mongerty2 wrote...

RohanD wrote...


I'm not calling anyone a mindless drone. I simply find it hilarious that there are people who will pay money for a product which is sub par and then go and defend it because of some misplaced brand loyalty. 

I didn't attack "anyone" who disagreed with the review. In fact, I only replied to people who actually chose to attack me first. It's another indication of who the real trolls on here are. 

So as I said, a customer who is not happy with a product and goes to complain about it is an ass in your books? I will say it again: "You are the customer from heaven!"

You know what, you are right. I went back to see the comment that was there and it was not. I must have just been reading in-between the lines (or read the comment of another and mistook it as yours) I may not agree with you, but you are completely correct in calling me out for being such a tool. 

I am sorry for calling you an ass. It was I who spoke out of turn, and thus, was the ass.

no worries

[Ronin2006]

I'm just going to post here so that the thread gets bigger and hopefully someone from Bioware notices this thread and goes on to read the review.

Modifié par Ronin2006, 24 mars 2011 - 03:36 .

[Vali]

I found that almost every single flaw he pointed out in his review is true, but that does not make his review "good" or "honest".

It is really easy to hate DA2 and it's lower level of craftsmanship, but Gamecritic's review simply ignored all the good aspects of the game, few as they were, and purely fixiated on the bad things. This is not something which should not be acceptable in a legitimate review.

To me, it seemed the author was more busy venting out his frustration at the game than giving it a fair and accurate review. It hardly matters that he pointed out almost every flaw in the game; there is a difference between a review and a "list of things I hate". A good review is suppose to give everyone, particular those who know absolutely nothing about the game, a fair assesment of the game's strengths and weaknesses. This particular review does absolutely none of that. A good criticism which accurately details the flaws, but definitely not a good review.

[Bryy_Miller]

Ronin2006 wrote...

I'm just going to post here so that the thread gets bigger and hopefully someone from Bioware notices this thread and goes on to read the review.

I somehow doubt that companies need their official forums to tell them about reviews of their product.

[Merced652]

 we've missed you bryy:D