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What are the differences between DAO elves & DA 2 elves?


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Galad22 wrote...

Someone should post different Zevrans here. That is worst offender to me.


Totally agree, he lost all he's suave and swagger. He looked like a generic npc in DA2.

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Never noticed before, when did Merril get a boob job?

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DA:O elves are LOTR like.
DA2 elves are gay apart from Fenris and Merill who are bi.

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GreyPouponWarden wrote...

They have Bajoran-looking nose bridges. No wonder the Tevinter enslaved them!

Joking aside, I think one of the reasons they wanted to differentiate them from humans more was to make them look otherworldly. People fear that which looks different and strange to them, perhaps this could be construed as giving more credence to their Tevinter-enslaved backstory.


In Baldur's gate they elves where just like humans in height but tine bone. what they did the look more like some anime fairy[/i]

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I like Bethany as elf more

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DA2 elves belong in Santa's workshop.

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The Brigand wrote...

In Origins, elves looked like humans with pointy ears.

From the look of those pictures, in DA2 they look like deformed humans with pointy ears.

I'm not really seeing the "alien beauty" bit, really. Maybe if they had multicolored scales, reverse elbows, backwards hands, three eyelids, and no noses...


And what do you think elves are suppose to look like. they are Humanoid  beings not some fairy creatures. the only thing which should separate them from the humans is the ears and they thin bone. what we got i DA2 was disgraceful 

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I can't remember being disturbed by their accents in DAO but in Merill's clan there were northern Irish Belfast accents alongside southern Irish brogues and of course Merill herself was from the valleys of Wales! WTF

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Alikain wrote...

And what do you think elves are suppose to look like.


Honestly? Elves are an entirely fictitious race. They look however their authors want them to look.

How do I prefer elves? Humans with pointy ears. Exceptionally beautiful humans with pointy ears, even when they're male, but humans with pointy ears nonetheless. But that's not my call to make unless it's my own elves I'm writing about.

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The Brigand wrote...

Honestly? Elves are an entirely fictitious race. They look however their authors want them to look.

How do I prefer elves? Humans with pointy ears. Exceptionally beautiful humans with pointy ears, even when they're male, but humans with pointy ears nonetheless. But that's not my call to make unless it's my own elves I'm writing about.


I agree. I want beatiful tolkien elves, not these weird avatar space elves.

What is wrong with tolkien elves exactly anyway? They are classic for a reason.

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Choose your poison- I prefer DAO versions hands down.


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WOW!!! Now that you put them side by side I would have to agree. DAO versions look much more realistic where as the DA2 looks very cartoony.


. . . realistic? Can you show me what real elves look like?

The DA:O elves looked like humans. Boring. This isn't Star Trek. The DA2 elves, while I find their brontosaurus necks to be frightening, look inhuman. They look alien and otherwordly. They take you aback.

Have you seen "Lord of the Rings"? All the elves looked human. Lol...

Second, I agree with Ozzlok. "Dragon Age: Origin's" version of elves look texturally more realistic. It is almost as if the character design had degraded in "Dragon Age II". Its more cartoony.

"Dragon Age II's" elves look like the orcs from "Lord of the Rings",

Modifié par Deadmac, 24 mars 2011 - 09:43 .


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The Brigand wrote...

Alikain wrote...

And what do you think elves are suppose to look like.


Honestly? Elves are an entirely fictitious race. They look however their authors want them to look.

How do I prefer elves? Humans with pointy ears. Exceptionally beautiful humans with pointy ears, even when they're male, but humans with pointy ears nonetheless. But that's not my call to make unless it's my own elves I'm writing about.


In that case i agree with you, but the point is they ruin the elves in DA2 even if they wanted them to be different then the humans. evening the space elfs of warhammer 40k looks like humans.

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Elves are a race a part. They maybe humanoid, but they're not human.
Elven genes in DA are recessive, Elves in times past were immortal and magical, Elves have the closest empathy with magic and nature than any other race. The elves of DAO, even the Dalish, reminded me more of tiny native americans or celts stuck in old England than an actual race with a history. Elves in DA2 have a more fey and otherworldly look, something that elves always have. Even the pretty human-elves of LOTR had an aura of otherworldliness. Elves by nature are aliens.

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Jademoon121 wrote...

Elves are a race a part. They maybe humanoid, but they're not human.
Elven genes in DA are recessive, Elves in times past were immortal and magical, Elves have the closest empathy with magic and nature than any other race. The elves of DAO, even the Dalish, reminded me more of tiny native americans or celts stuck in old England than an actual race with a history. Elves in DA2 have a more fey and otherworldly look, something that elves always have. Even the pretty human-elves of LOTR had an aura of otherworldliness. Elves by nature are aliens.

Correct me if I am wrong, but were not the elves in "DAO" breeding with humans?

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I like the elves more in DA2 they look more distinct.

In DAO they were skinny humans with slightly longer ears.

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jbblue05 wrote...

I like the elves more in DA2 they look more distinct.

In DAO they were skinny humans with slightly longer ears.

I kind of thought they looked like sexy Vulcans.

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Deadmac wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Elves are a race a part. They maybe humanoid, but they're not human.
Elven genes in DA are recessive, Elves in times past were immortal and magical, Elves have the closest empathy with magic and nature than any other race. The elves of DAO, even the Dalish, reminded me more of tiny native americans or celts stuck in old England than an actual race with a history. Elves in DA2 have a more fey and otherworldly look, something that elves always have. Even the pretty human-elves of LOTR had an aura of otherworldliness. Elves by nature are aliens.

Correct me if I am wrong, but were not the elves in "DAO" breeding with humans?


Yes, but the children are entirely human in terms of biological race. They may inherit eye color and stuff of their elven parent, just not the elven part. 

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Jademoon121 wrote...

Deadmac wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Elves are a race a part. They maybe humanoid, but they're not human.
Elven genes in DA are recessive, Elves in times past were immortal and magical, Elves have the closest empathy with magic and nature than any other race. The elves of DAO, even the Dalish, reminded me more of tiny native americans or celts stuck in old England than an actual race with a history. Elves in DA2 have a more fey and otherworldly look, something that elves always have. Even the pretty human-elves of LOTR had an aura of otherworldliness. Elves by nature are aliens.

Correct me if I am wrong, but were not the elves in "DAO" breeding with humans?


Yes, but the children are entirely human in terms of biological race. They may inherit eye color and stuff of their elven parent, just not the elven part.

I don't think that is entirely true. If you understand how our species inherits physical traits, the more dominate genes determine our physical characteristics. What if an elf had stronger genes than a human? They should get those sexy pointy ears.

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Deadmac wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Deadmac wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Elves are a race a part. They maybe humanoid, but they're not human.
Elven genes in DA are recessive, Elves in times past were immortal and magical, Elves have the closest empathy with magic and nature than any other race. The elves of DAO, even the Dalish, reminded me more of tiny native americans or celts stuck in old England than an actual race with a history. Elves in DA2 have a more fey and otherworldly look, something that elves always have. Even the pretty human-elves of LOTR had an aura of otherworldliness. Elves by nature are aliens.

Correct me if I am wrong, but were not the elves in "DAO" breeding with humans?


Yes, but the children are entirely human in terms of biological race. They may inherit eye color and stuff of their elven parent, just not the elven part.

I don't think that is entirely true. If you understand how our species inherits out characteristics, the more dominate genes determine out physical makeup. What if an elf had stronger genes than a human? They should get those sexy pointy ears.


There isn't much lore and information on what half elves actually look like, there've only been two in the entire series. Point is though, is that they're not elven. Elven genes, at least the racial ones, are reccessive, so elf-blooded humans, which I think is the official term, are just humans with an elven parent.

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DOUBLE POST:wizard:

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Deadmac wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Deadmac wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Elves are a race a part. They maybe humanoid, but they're not human.
Elven genes in DA are recessive, Elves in times past were immortal and magical, Elves have the closest empathy with magic and nature than any other race. The elves of DAO, even the Dalish, reminded me more of tiny native americans or celts stuck in old England than an actual race with a history. Elves in DA2 have a more fey and otherworldly look, something that elves always have. Even the pretty human-elves of LOTR had an aura of otherworldliness. Elves by nature are aliens.

Correct me if I am wrong, but were not the elves in "DAO" breeding with humans?


Yes, but the children are entirely human in terms of biological race. They may inherit eye color and stuff of their elven parent, just not the elven part.

I don't think that is entirely true. If you understand how our species inherits physical traits, the more dominate genes determine our physical characteristics. What if an elf had stronger genes than a human? They should get those sexy pointy ears.

Think this have been brought up before and from what i took think that they should take the stronger genes, but from came out of they lore in this game no matter what if the and elf and human have children their characteristic alway stay human with no elvens traits.

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Deadmac wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

I like the elves more in DA2 they look more distinct.

In DAO they were skinny humans with slightly longer ears.

I kind of thought they looked like sexy Vulcans.


But Vulcans are superior to humans  in Star Trek.  While elves in DA are pwned by humans.

Plus Star Trek's aliens mainly looked like humans

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The heart of the debate is: Some of us like traditional Tolkien elves. Tolkien invented elves. His elves were practically human, except for being a little more svelte, beautiful, and of course pointy-eared. The movie got it right. And we prefer "normal". Normal combat, normal elves, etc. Before you ask the commonplace question, (in a silly voice) "what's normal, this is a fantasy game": Normal (or realistic or authentic or plausible or reasonable) means approaching as much as possible and practical, happenings of the real world. Of course, there's no magic in the real world, but there are swords, and warriors, and gravity, and inertia. And even if we park our brains for a moment and accept magic, elves, ogres etc. we want them to have as much of a plausible explanation as possible. You know perfectly well what someone who asks for "realism" or "authenticity" means, but you pretend you don't in order to be able to troll.  

Others, the crowd who grew up suckling anime and Chinese movies, prefer anime-ish combat and anime-ish elves. Also, they prefer everything weird and abnormal, and fast. They like the new combat, because it isn't in any way normal. It is totally fantastic, and fast. They prefer the new elves, precisely because they look alien and nonhuman.

I'm quite sure there's a generational thing here. No doubt with some exceptions, the players of the first group are older than those of the second. I see it in my own home: My son likes DA2, prefers the new elves, and loves the new combat. We have discussions very similar to those going on here at the forum.

Now before you disregard us old geezers, we're the young players of yesteryear. And we're not that old. And we're probably more than half the fanbase of Dragon Age. And we have more money, so we can potentially buy more games. And we're more likely, as a group, to actually buy a game instead of downloading it somewhere...

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Caralampio wrote...

Tolkien invented elves.


Uhh...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf

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Mox Ruuga wrote...

They look like slight humans with pointy ears in DA:O.

They look like retarded, anorexic gremlins in DA2.



Saw a user review today that started out:

"The Good: The name
The Bad: The game
The Ugly: The elves."


Sums it up rather well.

Modifié par Otterwarden, 24 mars 2011 - 11:04 .