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This whole "reaper cuttlefish/squid-mix armour shell" thing would be a lot easier to swallow if it wasn't for the previous picture of the random sea creature reaper, and also in the full-front view of Harbinger, the second most prominent Reaper looks like some kind of giant mite (really, like a tick with claws), and is deffinately not squid/cuttlefish-like at all.



So, from Sovereign, Harbinger and the ME3 trailer Reapers, squid seem to turn out as the most intelligent and capable species more often than not Posted Image

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It was strongly hinted that the baby Reaper was more like a fetus and the Collector Base was the womb. It was slowly growing from the thousands of people being turned into enfamil.

If it wsa given a few more months/years to grow it would have been a full sized Reaper and would probably look alot differen't than when it was first growing. An infant in its first month or so of development looks like a fish and then latter like a cat or dog then it grows to look like a person. Most likely it was taking on the characteristics of the DNA being used and was looking mostly human but after more development time it would have probably gotten alot of the classic Reaper tenticles and such.

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100k wrote...

R3MUS wrote...

I think i am the only one who liked the terminator reaper. I think it was cool and kinda "haunting". It was really freaky when they melted down the humans into some kind of DNA goo and pumped into the Human Reaper.

The only problem i have is why it had three eyes and not two or four eyes..


So do human husks. Not that big of a deal.



Do they? I dont remember they have three eyes. Just two like us, humans.

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R3MUS wrote...

100k wrote...

R3MUS wrote...

I think i am the only one who liked the terminator reaper. I think it was cool and kinda "haunting". It was really freaky when they melted down the humans into some kind of DNA goo and pumped into the Human Reaper.

The only problem i have is why it had three eyes and not two or four eyes..


So do human husks. Not that big of a deal.



Do they? I dont remember they have three eyes. Just two like us, humans.



They do, a smaller eye below the eye on the right.

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The batarian (possibly crossed with a krogan) husk from ME3 seems to have 5 eyes instead of 4 as well. One in the centre of his forehead

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Perhaps there is a reason for it.

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 05 juin 2011 - 09:32 .


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Casey Hudson commented on this. The "squid"shell is just armor. The actual reaper is inside it and is probably much smaller. The human reaper was much smaller than Sovereign for instance. So I think the "reaper" itself is unique and each is made of one harvested species.

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Oh my god.

I just had a thought. We know that the true Reaper resides within the Reaper shell, separate from the massive squid-like craft they travel in, right? At the Battle of the Citadel, Sovereign was destroyed, right? But what if one of the Cerberus teams digging through tons of metals found a Reaper core, either dead or semi alive after its shell was destroyed by the Normandy SR1?

A possible explanation for why Cerberus is after Shepard?

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I'm assuming that Sovereign did not survive said explosion.

The reason is that because his power cores overloaded and exploded, there wouldn't be a heck of a lot of him left, considering how close he was in proximity to the power cores.

As the Human Reaper shows, the power core is in the chest of the Reaper.
Which isn't very far from it's brain (I'm assuming this is stored inside it's skull).

And then we have the larger power core that runs the actual Reaper body, which also detonated.

I'm assuming the power core is a backup "brain" for lack of a better term for the Reaper.
And if it goes boom.......

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There is another possibility

Before the destruction of Sovereign, Reapers used to have this massive self-confidence and they have never thought "failure" was an option.

Maybe Human Reaper was intended to be a small ship. Think about it, to produce 2 km long dreadnaught class starship would take huge amounts of humans, possibly billions. How could they get that amount with only collector ships (they can't stand coordinated attack of Alliance Fleet if they attack Earth).

Make the biggest starship with all you can safely get, wait for a reasonable amount of time, make a plan like Sovereign made, use the Human Reaper and all the collector ships you have.

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Tilarta wrote...

Ask and ye shall recieve.

I located my Derelict Reaper savegame and used the Flycam to "explore" as much around the Core as I could.

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I couldn't see anything that looked like ribs.

But the core itself did bear a vague resemblance to a Reaper, with the tentacles hanging down and the Cuttlefish "tail" extending behind it.

I'm assuming that if the Reaper has ribs, the metal plates are "hiding" them so nobody realizes what they assume is a spaceship is actually a living creature.


I think some people are misunderstanding Walters' use of the word "core"; I doubt he was literally talking about the Mass Effect Core - I think he just meant "core" in a very loose sense to mean that the Reaper is housed within the outer shell. 

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The Reaper larva in that concept art reminds me of The Thorian. When I see it, I envision that the battle would have played out like that one did.

Mulitple engagements around the hub to take out specific nodes, only with the central mass turning to fire on my position or whip its spine/tail at the platforms while an army of Collectors and Husks flanked me others..

But if it looked like that I'd be thinking more Thorian and less Reaper.

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Since this thread was first posted, we now know that Reapers come in all sizes.

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100k wrote...

Oh my god.

I just had a thought. We know that the true Reaper resides within the Reaper shell, separate from the massive squid-like craft they travel in, right? At the Battle of the Citadel, Sovereign was destroyed, right? But what if one of the Cerberus teams digging through tons of metals found a Reaper core, either dead or semi alive after its shell was destroyed by the Normandy SR1?

A possible explanation for why Cerberus is after Shepard?


acutally i think it just makes more sence in the they found the remains of the baby reaper from the collector base. i mean a dead reaper was still capable or indoctrinating people so why couldnt the the bady reaper do the same.

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@OP
finally, someone with sense!

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100k wrote...

Oh my god.

I just had a thought. We know that the true Reaper resides within the Reaper shell, separate from the massive squid-like craft they travel in, right? At the Battle of the Citadel, Sovereign was destroyed, right? But what if one of the Cerberus teams digging through tons of metals found a Reaper core, either dead or semi alive after its shell was destroyed by the Normandy SR1?

A possible explanation for why Cerberus is after Shepard?



This is a very valid theory.  Didn't EDI say that she was created by Cerberus from tech found in the wreckage of Sovereign?  Wouldn't that basically make EDI a rerpurposed Reaper core?  Onboard a ship with guns reverse engineered from a Reaper...I wonder what upgrades the Normandy will go through in ME3.  

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@up If Normandy SR2 is a Reaper then it would be funny!

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A Reaper Core was not used to create EDI.

Cerberus salvaged some of Sovereign's databases and used those to create EDI.
It's unspecified what that data was, but given how much EDI talks about hacking and Reaper computer viruses (plus her ability to nullify aforementioned viruses), I'm assuming the data used was Reaper viruses which they reverse engineered so that EDI could counter Reapers in a "virtual hacking war".

But technically, it is a correct statement that the Normandy SR2 is a Reaper.
They have an AI who has taken over the Normandy as her "body", she's created in part from Reaper software (for lack of a better term) and there's a Reaper gun in the ship.
Fortunately, EDI has no desire to conquer "organics", so I'm not really concerned about the fact she is becoming a Reaper in essence.

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Tilarta wrote...

A Reaper Core was not used to create EDI.

Cerberus salvaged some of Sovereign's databases and used those to create EDI.
It's unspecified what that data was, but given how much EDI talks about hacking and Reaper computer viruses (plus her ability to nullify aforementioned viruses), I'm assuming the data used was Reaper viruses which they reverse engineered so that EDI could counter Reapers in a "virtual hacking war".

But technically, it is a correct statement that the Normandy SR2 is a Reaper.
They have an AI who has taken over the Normandy as her "body", she's created in part from Reaper software (for lack of a better term) and there's a Reaper gun in the ship.
Fortunately, EDI has no desire to conquer "organics", so I'm not really concerned about the fact she is becoming a Reaper in essence.


I think that Shepard is a human reaper(no joking or trolling). That liqufied human goo (a yellow collor) pumped into that human reaper at the collector base is looks the same as Shepards scars (The same yellow color) at the begining of ME2. Could shepard have been brought back to life for plot reasons?  

I think the reapers and cerberus were making a human reaper and cerberus made a better one then the reapers themselves. For cerberus to get there attention they blow up theres. This may be why the reapers have employed cerberus in ME3.

If this is true then the reapers are trying to become human reapers and shepard is the key. This maybe why they are interested in humans and shepard.

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Here's a tidbit from an interview between GameInformer and Mac Walters. Should explain things. 

GI: Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?
Walters: The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect 2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.


EDIT: Also, the video in my signature is a video of Legion explaining why they made the human Reaper.

Modifié par Dr. Jacko, 20 février 2012 - 04:37 .


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Dr. Jacko wrote...

Here's a tidbit from an interview between GameInformer and Mac Walters. Should explain things. 

GI: Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?
Walters: The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect 2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.


EDIT: Also, the video in my signature is a video of Legion explaining why they made the human Reaper.


There are still alot of unanswered questions to the story to close the subject.
Such as...
Where did they come from?
Who built them?
Why is cerberus with them?
If cerberus is with the reapers then why did they try to stop the reapers in ME2? 
Why does shepard appear to have the same human genetic goo in his scars as the human reaper in ME2?
What is the reapers fasination with dark energy? Why do they feel the need to control it? and do they fear it?
What is the reapers end goals for doing what they are doing?
The BIGGEST question is why are they trying to control evolution? My guess is that they are looking for something specific, other wise there is no reason to control it.
If they are looking for something specific then what could it be?

There is far more going on here then we know about. The key rests with cerberus!  We are going to find out about cerberus in ME3 and it will no doubt involve the reapers, somthing that we have yet to learn.

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KevShep wrote...

Dr. Jacko wrote...

Here's a tidbit from an interview between GameInformer and Mac Walters. Should explain things. 

GI: Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?
Walters: The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect 2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.


EDIT: Also, the video in my signature is a video of Legion explaining why they made the human Reaper.


There are still alot of unanswered questions to the story to close the subject.
Such as...
Where did they come from?
Who built them?
Why is cerberus with them?
If cerberus is with the reapers then why did they try to stop the reapers in ME2? 
Why does shepard appear to have the same human genetic goo in his scars as the human reaper in ME2?
What is the reapers fasination with dark energy? Why do they feel the need to control it? and do they fear it?
What is the reapers end goals for doing what they are doing?
The BIGGEST question is why are they trying to control evolution? My guess is that they are looking for something specific, other wise there is no reason to control it.
If they are looking for something specific then what could it be?

There is far more going on here then we know about. The key rests with cerberus!  We are going to find out about cerberus in ME3 and it will no doubt involve the reapers, somthing that we have yet to learn.


Well... Yeah. Mass Effect told us who the Reapers are, Mass Effect 2 told us what they are, it's safe to assume that Mass Effect 3 will supply the answers to those questions by giving us the why. I just noticed that a lot of people didn't get that dialogue with Legion and so had no clue what was going on. BioWare really should have made it easier to find.