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[Forumtroll]

MASSIVE SPOILERS INVOLVING THE CALLING AND FLEMETH





We've all debated the possibility that Flemeth could be a dragon who shapeshifts into a human or a human who can shapeshift into dragon.

Let's entertain if she was a High Dragon, how would she prophecy a Bilght was coming to Maric (mentioned in the novels)? If she was an Old God she would be calling to the darkspawn, not indifferent to the Blight. I doubt an abomination would be indifferent to the Blight as well. Desire demons want to experience being human, Pride expresses similar sentiments in the beginning of the Mage Origin. A bitter old human mage could indeed have vision of the future which has been expressed in both the novel and the game.

Not sure how many have read the The Calling, but what if Flemeth is similar to the Architect? For those of you who haven't read the Calling, the Architect was a darkspawn emissary who had a mind unlike the rest of the horde. The Architect was able to sense the the Calling of the Old Gods but could resist it. He had no desire for a fourth Blight. He wanted to stop the war between Thedas and the darkspawn. He also called the Old Gods the "face of perfection" and did not wish to taint them.

Flemeth via Morrigan and her ritual wanted to free the Old Gods. So I ask what if they are similar creatures with similar motivations? It really explains the part of the novels and how Flemeth could predict there would be a Blight and also explains why she would protect the Grey Warden treaties. As the Architect nearly considered a Grey Warden after his Calling kin.

[Taleroth]

My theory:



Flemeth is a Grey Warden. Remember the treaties? Only a Grey Warden could break the seal. Flemeth claims the magic died out, but what if it's a half-truth?



She can detect the coming blight because, as basically the oldest Grey Warden in existence, her ability to detect them is beyond compare.

[EricHVela]

Question: When other creatures shape-shift, do their Survival-skill readouts on the minimap change to their new shape or still state the old shape? (Only shows stats for hostiles.) Flemeth's stats show "Dragon Boss" once she becomes hostile.

I haven't checked, but I can't recall whether I have run into another shape-shifter during one of the cluster$&#* fights where I can't see anything and only recently discovered that benefit of the Survival skill.

[JamesX]

Flemmeth was certainly once human.

Though Morrigan did mention that she cannot take human forms because she is already human. She never said other beings who became shapeshifters cannot take human form.

But Flemmeth is mortal there for she cannot be a Dragon. At least in the conventional sense - since from all records Dragons live thousands of years if not immortal all together. And Flemmeth have had strings of daughters enough that it has ingrained in folk lore.

So the most logical deduction is that Flemmeth is a Human who mastered/was consumed by a spirit/demon from the Fade and became an extremely potent magic user. So potent in fact she mastered the Dragon Shape.

[Forumtroll]

The cluster**** was in one of the hallways in Fort Drakon on the way to fight the Archdemon, just after the Genlock Assassin mini-boss. There may have been another in one of the Deep Roads dungeons.



I also have news for those of you who think the Calling is just a Grey Warden dying. They don't die, though some might go mad (ghouls; like Hespith and Ruck) or die from the transformation. So states the second novel (Dragon Age: The Calling). So she very well may be a mage who was Grey Warden and has undergone the Calling leaving somewhere in the middle of darkspawn and human.

[Dsurian]

One thing that crossed my mind is that there were no dragon scales (to make armor out of, for instance). It would make sense (to me at least) that if you were to harvest scales off of a shape-changed corpse, the scales would magically disintegrate...but with that logic, why did she stay a dragon after death? Meh...i believe it to be highly unlikely that she is a dragon. Remember, she has raised child after child to posses them and extend her own life...so whatever she started out as, she no longer is...though what she is now is hard to say. My point being, its possible that she was a dragon, but to say that she still is would be silly...and i doubt that anyone who was once a dragon could be content with living the rest of their lives as a meer human %99 of the time...

[chiliztri]

Last time I checked, Dragons were about as smart as dolphins.



So, with that in mind it would make your Flemeth is a Dragon theory moot.

[Forumtroll]

Darkspawn Emissaries and Grey Wardens who have undergone the Calling can live for a very long time. And theoretically Flemeth would still be able to mate with a human as a Hurlock, Morrigan hinted to Oghren that she has mated with creatures of the forest while shapeshifted. She also implies "she has heard the call of the wild." As for producing children she could steal them from the barbarians just as well.

[EricHVela]

chiliztri wrote...

Last time I checked, Dragons were about as smart as dolphins.

So, with that in mind it would make your Flemeth is a Dragon theory moot.

I dunno. Like Flipper, I'm always saying "So, what are you trying to tell us?" Flipper was just as cryptic.

[Forumtroll]

The Old Gods do speak to the darkspawn. And High Dragons may possess a similar intelligence to a human. Smaller ones not so much.

[_____o_O___]

Old gods are fade spirit possessed high dragons I believe. Just like the old tree in the woods.

[Forumtroll]

Not true. Dragon Age: The Calling reveals the Dragons are not possessed. The Architect sheds alot of light on the darkspawn. It also states clearly the Old Gods call out to darkspawn through the taint to release them. They desire the Blight.

[Reiella]

ReggarBlane wrote...

chiliztri wrote...

Last time I checked, Dragons were about as smart as dolphins.

So, with that in mind it would make your Flemeth is a Dragon theory moot.

I dunno. Like Flipper, I'm always saying "So, what are you trying to tell us?" Flipper was just as cryptic.

"What's that girl?  Alistair fell down a well?"

[EricHVela]

Reiella wrote...

ReggarBlane wrote...

chiliztri wrote...

Last time I checked, Dragons were about as smart as dolphins.

So, with that in mind it would make your Flemeth is a Dragon theory moot.

I dunno. Like Flipper, I'm always saying "So, what are you trying to tell us?" Flipper was just as cryptic.

"What's that girl?  Alistair fell down a well?"

"They call her Flemeth, Flemeth, Witch of the Wilders. No one you see... can understand she...." (To the tune of the Flipper theme.)

[chiliztri]

Reiella wrote...

"What's that girl?  Alistair fell down a well?"

[Dennis Carpenter]

Taleroth wrote...

My theory:

Flemeth is a Grey Warden. Remember the treaties? Only a Grey Warden could break the seal. Flemeth claims the magic died out, but what if it's a half-truth?

She can detect the coming blight because, as basically the oldest Grey Warden in existence, her ability to detect them is beyond compare.

I tend to agree, I cant remember the exact character or conversation though I do remember it was a female in conversation with alistair or maybe Cailin since my female characters are all low level so it had to happen early on a statement was made that the first Grey Warden to arrive was a female (or maybe it was the first greay warden he ever met) but it gave me the sense that The first grey warden to arrive in Ferelden was a woman........That might have been Flemeth?????????