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[addu2urmanapool]

What is the rationale here? There are bugs that INTERFERE WITH THE STORY, and it has been well over 2 weeks now.

[DungeonLord]

Perhaps they ran out of funds or decided to lay off the team?

[Legbiter]

Q & A with all the different configurations possible and all the different platforms takes time?

[Laughing_Man]

Indeed, most of the other complaints on DA:2 Are subject to personal taste and\\or debateble in one way or the other.

But as for the bugs, It's almost as if the game wasn't played by the testers before release.
(numerous follower-related-bugs, and others.)
Very strange and disapointing Indeed.

Edit: if i'm not wrong, most of those arn't platform specific.(Merril infamos bug, and so on.)

Modifié par TheRedVipress, 24 mars 2011 - 06:22 .

[MyKingdomCold]

to be honest, I think people are getting a little impatient and spoiled. they want things NOW! What? 17 days and still no patch?!

[sanadawarrior]

MyKingdomCold wrote...

to be honest, I think people are getting a little impatient and spoiled. they want things NOW! What? 17 days and still no patch?!

Well they need to step it up, there are quite a few bugs and squashing at least a few of them in a patch would be nice.

[wintermonk]

"Patience. For the Jedi it is time to eat as well." Yoda

I only noticed one bug my first time through (the bandit standing there doing nothing on a minor side quest).  I was pleased with how smoothly the game ran, with short load times, compared to DAO.  I think Bioware did a great job.

Modifié par wintermonk, 24 mars 2011 - 06:44 .

[Crabhand]

Patches take a lot of time to test and authorize internally, as well as authorizing by the console manufacturer. Then there is the fact that on consoles developers are limited in the number and size of patches, so they have to try and catch as much as possible in each patch.

[RaenImrahl]

Let's look at DA:Origins, shall we:

Game released-- Nov. 3, 2009 (North America)

3 days after launch -- first minor technical patch 1.01. It had it's own flaws, and was fixed and released as 1.01b about 14 days after launch.

34 days after launch -- patch 1.02, which contained the first substantial plot corrections. It too was bugged and had to be re-released as patch 1.02a about 48 days after launch.

Patch 1.03 didn't come until March, 2010, and 1.04 didn't hit until July.

And since, I think most (especially those who've played Awakening) would agree that *another* patch is still needed.... well... I encourage Bioware/EA to take its time and do it right, and completely, with DA2.

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 24 mars 2011 - 06:51 .

[Laughing_Man]

The real question is why so many bugs in the first place, the concept of testing exist for a reason, no?

[RaenImrahl]

TheRedVipress wrote...

The real question is why so many bugs in the first place, the concept of testing exist for a reason, no?

As an overall concept it makes since, but given the evidence we've had about the quick turn-around between DAO and DA2...  I am frankly surprised there aren't *more* bugs... at least from a plot standpoint. 

Playing through 56 hours of the game on PC, I encountered only one major quest bug and one major companion-oriented bug.  It didn't crash once.  No DLC unauthorized crap either.  Frankly, I was stunned.  Gobsmacked.

Yes, ideally all games should be flawless, or nearly so, upon launch.  But I've never seen one.

[OmegaJudgement]

Even the BioWare testing team could not stomach playing through the disappointing Dragon Age 2, otherwise they would have found the issues and corrected them, instead they decided to go straight to work on DLC that they can sell you or make you jump through hoops for.

[Nerdage]

wintermonk wrote...

"Patience. For the Jedi it is time to eat as well." Yoda

I only noticed one bug my first time through (the bandit standing there doing nothing on a minor side quest).  I was pleased with how smoothly the game ran, with short load times, compared to DAO.  I think Bioware did a great job.

That's what I thought after my first play-though, but then I came on these forums and found a few things happened that shouldn't have and a few things that should've happened; didn't. Anticipating the next patch so I can make another character, but with Arrival so close I'm in no immediate hurry.

[WJC3688]

MyKingdomCold wrote...

to be honest, I think people are getting a little impatient and spoiled. they want things NOW! What? 17 days and still no patch?!

It's more like people are angry that the game shipped with this many bugs in the first place.  That's how I feel about it, at least.  Patches taking a while to come out just adds insult to injury.  If the game had been released at a reasonable level of quality, with bugs being few in number and relatively minor in their frequency/consequences, I wouldn't mind waiting a while for a patch.  But, that's not the case here.

I only noticed one bug my first time through (the bandit standing there
doing nothing on a minor side quest).  I was pleased with how
smoothly the game ran, with short load times, compared to DAO.  I think
Bioware did a great job.

Just because you didn't encounter these bugs personally doesn't mean that they aren't cause for concern.  I only encountered one bug myself and it wasn't too significant (Merrill dialogue bug, I didn't even realize it was bugged until after I beat the game), but after coming on the forums and seeing how many people have lost playthroughs to the Isabela/Sebastian bug, among the plethora of other things that don't work right, I'm still not happy about the condition DA2 was released in.  Any one of those people who can't play their chars because of that friendship bug could've just as easily been me.

[kaiki01]

TheRedVipress wrote...

The real question is why so many bugs in the first place, the concept of testing exist for a reason, no?

If DA:O is any indication, the QA team for the Dragon Age projects are either under-funded/under-staffed or not that good at QA.

[eno detah]

They've shared two things in a thread on the PS3 forum today

- The patch they are working on will contain MANY fixes (i.e., bigger than the first PC patch)
- The patch will not be released this week

It's not much, but it's more than we've been getting, so at least some progress (at least from a relative standpoint) on the communication front.

[bluewolv1970]

MyKingdomCold wrote...

to be honest, I think people are getting a little impatient and spoiled. they want things NOW! What? 17 days and still no patch?!

Yes people are getting "spoiled" because they paid 60.00 for a game that doesn't work right (particularly in terms of the storytelling)  and they want it fixed...the AUDACITY...you and I have different definitions of  "spoiled"...

[RaenImrahl]

eno detah wrote...

They've shared two things in a thread on the PS3 forum today

- The patch they are working on will contain MANY fixes (i.e., bigger than the first PC patch)
- The patch will not be released this week

It's not much, but it's more than we've been getting, so at least some progress (at least from a relative standpoint) on the communication front.

Excellent news.  Thanks for sharing!  It is tempting to assume that they're addressing not just glitches but also issues of balance and performance.  And of course, since a comprehenisive patch will have to include multiple platforms, a little more of a wait seems reasonable to me.

[ColGali]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

MyKingdomCold wrote...

to be honest, I think people are getting a little impatient and spoiled. they want things NOW! What? 17 days and still no patch?!

Yes people are getting "spoiled" because they paid 60.00 for a game that doesn't work right (particularly in terms of the storytelling)  and they want it fixed...the AUDACITY...you and I have different definitions of  "spoiled"...

Couldn't agree more. And it's funny that how strict deadlines were given to download the patch to get bonus items, to pre-order SE and so on... Now we don't even have an ETA for the patch...

[OSUfan12121]

I havent encountered any bugs in 2 playthroughs. Guess im just lucky.

[Merced652]

OSUfan12121 wrote...

I havent encountered any bugs in 2 playthroughs. Guess im just lucky.

Oh so you just ignore that blatantly broken quest in a3? Or merrill for that matter?

[Talladarr]

I'm just happy I got it for the PS3, it seems t ohave less issues than any other version of the game. The only problems I've faced to date, after multiple playthoughs, is some minor freezing(Meaning about 3-5 times a playthough) nad some issues getting unlockable items that I've gotten and show up on the site, but not in-game.
[[EDIT]]
I havn't noticed any bugs in companion quests at all, however, I never finished all the companion quests. I eneded up running Isibela off before hers really came up, never got the opertunity to do the last part of Fenris', but other than that I  THINK I did them all with no problems. PS3 FTW?

Modifié par Talladarr, 24 mars 2011 - 07:38 .

[bluewolv1970]

OSUfan12121 wrote...

I havent encountered any bugs in 2 playthroughs. Guess im just lucky.

well then at the very least you did not do the Merril romance and quests and you did not do the who needs rescuing quest" and you haven't had both Sebastion and Isabella in your party...

[Dubya75]

No patch. Bloody shameful that's what it is!