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[Mavkiel]

Vhyle wrote...

Chris posted that the PC got patched twice.. So I guess he considers the Texture pack a patch? The only patch I see is 1.01. Twice, eh? I know I'm not blind, and I don't see a 1.02 anywhere.  Funny.

Or he was counting the beta 1.01 patch. Which far as I could tell was the same thing as the beta, just the name changed.

[Cybermortis]

addu2urmanapool wrote...

Cybermortis wrote...

addu2urmanapool wrote...

Farlington wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...
It's all about appeasing the lowest common denominators.

No its about appeasing the shareholders with the highest common denominator profits and that means you ship games onto the most profitable platforms.

I remember when the Amiga games section in shops got smaller and smaller until it vanished entirely (Partly due to piracy, partly due to the uncertain future of the platform). No technology stays on top indefinitely, but before you hold a wake for the PC, the shelf space wasn't taken up by PC games, it was console games. Then they started to have to make way for PC games.

It's all swings and roundabouts. Sooner or later the console marketplace will be less profitable than the PC marketplace and the whole she-bang will start all over again with the PC on top. Afterall, when the consoles took the lead in profitsss, the internet was still a fad for most families. Nowadays there are a lot more technicaly savvy people owning PC's, but the main focus for game developers is still the same as it was back then.

Once developers figure out what this massive untapped marketplace wants (Note: It isn't shoot-em-ups and FPS's), that will be what direction games take. The baby steps that companies like Bioware are taking regarding creating (normaly) well written and compelling stories will be far more sought after than they are in the current climate.

Hopefully they'll still be around...

Sadly, I don't think it plays out that way, at least as things are currently headed. The reason there used to be a market for PC games is that "home computers" used to be able to play the newest games. Nowadays, you need a specialized computer with a dedicated graphics card to be able to play games. So "gaming pcs" are like a separate system from "home pcs"; and are HARDER to get and MORE expensive than consoles.

Only if you insist on getting the very latest graphics card, processer ect - and these are usually overpowered for games anyway.

If you just want a decent PC that will happily run anything you are likely to want to play for two or so years, can be upgraded and can also be used for more than just gaming you can get a decent PC for around the same price as a console - and if you buy a lot of games it works out a lot cheaper as PC games cost less.

The catch is knowing where to go. If you buy from highstreet shops then yes, it costs more for what it does. If,however, you find places that build custom PC's (and have good staff who listen and are willing to give honest advice) you can get a very good PC for less than the cost of many consoles. My current PC came from such a place, and the graphics card was provided at cost (I've bought so much stuff from them, and pointed so many people in their direction they were happy to just charge me for the card alone). Just as importantly I didn't have to hand over a large wad of cash for the OS, since I had one from my old machine - which was a second hand one from the same place and cost me less than two Xbox games.

Of course most people seem to be scared of computers or just lazy. So they buy overpriced, underpowered computers from large stores. Last time I went into one place they were charging more for an out of date motherboard than I paid for this PC.

That's simply not true. The cost to *build* a computer that would run Dragon Age 2 (WITHOUT a monitor) is about ~600-700 on NewEgg/Tigerdirect/Microcenter. Those are the reasonably cheapest places to get parts for most people, and you cannot assume parts will be cheaper than that. (You can't assume people will already have a power supply, case, etc lying around). An XBOX 360 for me was <200.

Again, it depends on where you shop. If you go to the main outlets - even on the Net - most of what you end up paying is to cover their costs. If, however, you go to smaller outlets you can often get far better deals if you either know what you are looking for or the staff there are good and honest.

I currently have three working PC's, the oldest I put together myself (cost, roughly £$175, excluding having to replace the DVD twice).
The next PC was second hand and cost me $100, plus another $50 for a better graphics card. The OS was preloaded, but they gave me the disk anyway. This was/is capable of playing every game I have apart from DA2 and Fallout New Vegas.
My current PC is brand spanking new and included everything but the OS - I could use the one from my old PC since it will never be used on the net again. Not only will this play everything I have, it will also play anything that will be released in the next 18 months without trouble - plus I can upgrade to keep pace easily myself (apart from the graphics card, since a more powerful card will require an overhaul of the power system and I'm not willing to try that myself).

In terms of monitor I've had four in some 15 years, one of which was second hand and cost $40 (and is still going last time I checked), another was free from a friend. When the last one died - as in blew up in my face - it cost me $120 for a widescreen replacement which is what I'm using now. Keyboard, mouse ect I already had - in fact I've had the same speakers for 10 years.

The cheapest out-of-the-box PC's I've seen in my area, or for that matter even on the net, cost the same as my PC for far lower specs and included monitor, keyboard and mouse I just don't need. I have enough problems with having four PC's lying around (I have yet another older PC, but it was partly taken apart for parts for the next one) without adding another monitor to the growing pile. Much of what you end up paying for are things you should already have if you already had a PC. Things such as the OS will need updating overtime, but this falls under the heading of 'maintinance' and isn't required right now. It also will not require me to replace my entire PC for a newer version anytime soon.

[JamesMoriarty123]

Chris Priestly wrote...

The PC version has been patched twice already. We are still working on more patches for all platforms and, when we have more information about what will be fixed and when it will be available, we will let everyoen know.

Twice you say? Where's the second one? Unless you're calling the High-Res Pack a patch, which is bad really, real bad, being as it is that it should have been included for PC anyway.

[Skwervin]

Avalla'ch wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

I also am hoping for free DLC. Not necessarily new stuff. But maybe if Bioware spent time of making each environment unique they could release it as a free DLC, a big redeemer for that problem.

A free DLC ? Free additional content with no strings attached?

The sun will rise from the west more likely.

No mate - pigs will fly first...

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