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[shoggoth1890]

I want to develop a pill that software developers will be required to take during production of their software. The effect would be temporary memory loss concerning the existence of the internet. They'd put the kind of care into testing that they used to when the shipped product couldn't be fixed. Then after development, they stop taking the pill and can fix any stuff that still managed to slip past them. The knowledge that something can just be patched later has made companies get lax in this regard.

[flexxdk]

Teclo wrote...
Wow, do you only play Bethesda games or something?

Nope, sorry to disappoint you.

As more and more console games seem to be made by developers who are traditionally PC developers, we're getting all your crap too.

Then you gotta deal with it. Simple as it is.

I'm not saying here that these game-breaking bugs don't bug me. In fact, they do. And I hate to perform workarounds.
Yes, I'd like to see these fixes soon. But I'm patient, because some things simply take time.

Modifié par Whacka, 25 mars 2011 - 06:07 .

[Chris Priestly]

The PC version has been patched twice already. We are still working on more patches for all platforms and, when we have more information about what will be fixed and when it will be available, we will let everyoen know.

[Everwarden]

Chris Priestly wrote...

The PC version has been patched twice already. We are still working on more patches for all platforms and, when we have more information about what will be fixed and when it will be available, we will let everyoen know.

Is there a patch coming to fix that awful ending being placed an act too early? 

[RaenImrahl]

Chris Priestly wrote...

The PC version has been patched twice already. We are still working on more patches for all platforms and, when we have more information about what will be fixed and when it will be available, we will let everyoen know.

I think you folks were very quick in fixing some of the activation-related issues that caused problems for some users.  But that said, none of the patches thus far have addressed the quest or plot related issues evident in the game.  I am personally content to wait a while for that, because I know those initial issues were of the highest priority... and ultimately these other things will be addressed.  However, for a PC player like me... who did not encounter any of the issues addressed in the first patch... I think the distinction is an important one.

[Cybermortis]

Chris Priestly wrote...

The PC version has been patched twice already. We are still working on more patches for all platforms and, when we have more information about what will be fixed and when it will be available, we will let everyoen know.

The board lists one patch and the high texture package for the PC. I can't see how the HTP can be seen as a patch, as it is adding things that really should have been included in the game from the start and is a 1.08 GB file.

I'm not complaining about the progress of patches for the other issues as a whole, since I am well aware how long it takes to do patching on the scale DA2 requires as of writing. I would also like to tip my virtual cap at the poor people who have the job of doing the patching. All this hard work to address issues that really should have been dealt with before the game was released, with (I'm guessing) the idiots who wanted the game released in its current state complaining that they need to finish it, like, tomorrow breathing down their necks.

God help them, they must feel as if they are sitting next to Satan.

[ErichHartmann]

When will a patch fix the very buggy last boss fight? I can't even finish the game.

[Barefoot Warrior]

I'd be happy if the 'Hold Position' button actually worked. I'm on a PC and I finally gave up trying to use 'Hold Position' because..no one would HOLD. I even replaced my mouse to see if that was the problem...nope...off they went. *sigh

[Icy Magebane]

They need to fix Isabela and Sebastian's friendship glitches before anything else. They make the game unplayable... Sebastian doesn't bother me because I'm not interested in being his friend, but I can't even recruit Isabela because of this crap. It's just too risky. Well, whatever... it's taking longer than I'd like but I'm sure they are working on it.

Edit:  Actually, I take that back... they also need to fix the abilities that don't work as described (Rally), whatever is going on with the last boss (never had that problem), and a lot of other stuff... so... just please fix this game.  There's actually a lot of problems with the combat.

Modifié par Icy Magebane, 25 mars 2011 - 07:16 .

[CenturyCrow]

Barefoot Warrior wrote...

I'd be happy if the 'Hold Position' button actually worked. I'm on a PC and I finally gave up trying to use 'Hold Position' because..no one would HOLD. I even replaced my mouse to see if that was the problem...nope...off they went. *sigh

Same here. I suspect that it's not the Hold button itself that's the problem though. I think HOLD is ignored (or over-rode) because of the built-in game design to have all characters stay close to what ever character is selected. The farther apart the characters are, the more likely they will ignore HOLD. Example: you have your main character engage 1 enemy (particularly if it's melee). You switch to the 4th character to give orders, meanwhile character 1 engaged and finished and now tries to get back to your (now selected) 4th character. Quite a few times I switched back to the main character only to find it running back towards the 4th character instead of continuing to engage in the target I selected.

It's also possible that some of the Tactics command may ignore HOLD as well. Although the mages seem less likely to disengage because because they are ranged commands.

I found that I had to shut down some of the specific tactics for each class. But that's a conundrum, since if you shut down too many, they won't automatically engage. Or alternately, shut down all tactics and micromanage at all times.

Modifié par CenturyCrow, 25 mars 2011 - 07:28 .

[bluewolv1970]

So in others word jack has been done for console users and NOTHING so far has been done about any of the story telling quest based bugs, of which there are so many I have lost count...thanks DA II team for the 60.00 coaster...

[Maclimes]

Chris Priestly wrote...

The PC version has been patched twice already. We are still working on more patches for all platforms and, when we have more information about what will be fixed and when it will be available, we will let everyoen know.

Wait, twice? Is there a second patch out there somewhere? I only have 1.01.

[Mavkiel]

Maclimes wrote...
Wait, twice? Is there a second patch out there somewhere? I only have 1.01.

I believe the beta patch for 1.01 is being referred to.

[Chiramu]

I haven't found any bugs that interfere with the story while playing on the PC.

I think someone is being finicky here.

[Siegdrifa]

TheRedVipress wrote...

The real question is why so many bugs in the first place, the concept of testing exist for a reason, no?

I think you get something wrong about QA and tester.
They are meant to find bugs, that said, because a bug exist in the game doesn't mean it wasn't repported by tester.

Trust me.... i've been beta / lead tester for 3 years over 7 or 8 games (console and PC)... all the bug reported are not meant to be fixed even if they should, usualy because the one who fixe bugs are the same who dev the game, and usualy, even during test they are busy working on some part of the game, so fixing bugs can delay their agenda.


QA responsability is at stack when important bug easy to find was not noticed, and when a reported bug should have been fixed but then, wasn't checked by tester.
Other than that, it's the dev team who choose to fixe what has been reporter (usualy class A bug that forbide you to play and force you to reload / restart a game is their top priority, then  follow class B, C, D etc).

There is some case when the dev bypass the QA services. in that case tester can't be blamed for not finding something they couldn't test or check.


I'm not saying QA are innocent, just that we don't know for sure if they are guilty.

Modifié par Siegdrifa, 25 mars 2011 - 10:04 .

[Sidney]

The game was pretty solid but in Act III it was like all the bugs gathered together and had a huge party. I've stopped playing until Act III isn't a minefield of bad quests.

[ScotGaymer]

Chris Priestly wrote...

The PC version has been patched twice already. We are still working on more patches for all platforms and, when we have more information about what will be fixed and when it will be available, we will let everyoen know.

I don't mean to be rude here but...

What r u on about twice? Where?

There has been ONE patch released for PC version of DA2; 1.01. Thats it.

The other thing on the "patches" page is the Hi Res Texture pack; which is something that ought to have been shipped with the game cos the Stock Textures on the disk SUCK, IMO.

On another note, I think 3 weeks is a little um impatient and precipitous to be demanding a patch. A month is usually the average. For a comprehensive patch I mean.
And given the number of game breaking bugs (quests randomly not completing meaning you cant progress, the isabela bug, random CTDs) I would rather they took their time and fixed as much as they could and released a decent patch rather than a half assed bethesda style patch that fixes nothing at the best of times and breaks more stuff at the worst.

You hear me Bioware? :-P

This game is already rushed. Dont rush the patch to satisfy a few impatient malcontents.

[bluewolv1970]

Sidney wrote...

The game was pretty solid but in Act III it was like all the bugs gathered together and had a huge party. I've stopped playing until Act III isn't a minefield of bad quests.

no kidding...the game becomes an unplayable mess in act III

[Logikal1]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

The PC version has been patched twice already. We are still working on more patches for all platforms and, when we have more information about what will be fixed and when it will be available, we will let everyoen know.

I don't mean to be rude here but...

What r u on about twice? Where?

There has been ONE patch released for PC version of DA2; 1.01. Thats it.

The other thing on the "patches" page is the Hi Res Texture pack; which is something that ought to have been shipped with the game cos the Stock Textures on the disk SUCK, IMO.

On another note, I think 3 weeks is a little um impatient and precipitous to be demanding a patch. A month is usually the average. For a comprehensive patch I mean.
And given the number of game breaking bugs (quests randomly not completing meaning you cant progress, the isabela bug, random CTDs) I would rather they took their time and fixed as much as they could and released a decent patch rather than a half assed bethesda style patch that fixes nothing at the best of times and breaks more stuff at the worst.

You hear me Bioware? :-P

This game is already rushed. Dont rush the patch to satisfy a few impatient malcontents.

By impatient malcontents do you mean the people that have played 20+ hours but can no longer continue due to the Isabella/Sabastian bug?

Seriously those people are so impatient it just irks me. How dare they go about demanding the ability to continue playing the 60 dollar game they purchased a few weeks ago. ENTITLEMENT ISSUES... HELLO... FAILING

[haroldhardluck]

addu2urmanapool wrote...

What is the rationale here? There are bugs that INTERFERE WITH THE STORY, and it has been well over 2 weeks now.

In the PC version I found only one bug, a secondary quest in act 3 that would not start. Otherwise this has been a bug free game. For the PC there has already been a patch out that fixed some bugs I never encountered. So what version are you playing?

Harold

[Marionetten]

The Isabela/Sebastian bug is downright gamebreaking. You'd think they would have discovered this during QA...

[bluewolv1970]

haroldhardluck wrote...

addu2urmanapool wrote...

What is the rationale here? There are bugs that INTERFERE WITH THE STORY, and it has been well over 2 weeks now.

In the PC version I found only one bug, a secondary quest in act 3 that would not start. Otherwise this has been a bug free game. For the PC there has already been a patch out that fixed some bugs I never encountered. So what version are you playing?

Harold

If you have Isabella AND fenris in your party the game becomes eventually unplayable..."sketchy on the details" is broke, Who needs rescuing is broke, if you romance Merrill her act 3 quest scenes play all out of order, friendly concerns is so broke that most players probably do not realize it even exists,best serevd cold is bugged and virtually every cameo in act three has a bug...

[ScotGaymer]

Logikal1 wrote...


By impatient malcontents do you mean the people that have played 20+ hours but can no longer continue due to the Isabella/Sabastian bug?

Seriously those people are so impatient it just irks me. How dare they go about demanding the ability to continue playing the 60 dollar game they purchased a few weeks ago. ENTITLEMENT ISSUES... HELLO... FAILING

I understand why you and others would be upset, hell its an annoying bug that hits just about everyone, and makes late game a pain in the ass, but that doesnt change the fact that a little over 2 weeks is far too soon to reasonably expect a decent patch.

[Hathur]

Chris Priestly wrote...

The PC version has been patched twice already. We are still working on more patches for all platforms and, when we have more information about what will be fixed and when it will be available, we will let everyoen know.

Mmmmm.. no... you released 1 patch and 1 high-res texture pack. The texture pack is not a patch, it does not fix bugs.. it just adds optional visual improvements.. it fixes no bugs.

Not a complaint.. just making it clear you're mistaken about 2 patches for pc.

[Tony_Knightcrawler]

And really, the number of patches is irrelevant, since what matters is the number of serious bugs that remain.

What is really concerning is the number of people on this forum complaining are the people who are in the know. We represent the vast MINORITY of players for DA2. Think of all those people out there who have no idea what is happening with their game to make it so bad. They may never buy another DA product again.