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[NotFrom4chan]

Look, David Gaider is already going to hell for being a ****ty writer, he can't go twice for also being homosexual.

[v_ware]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Angry_Bitter wrote...
The only reason all of you are accepting of homosexuality is because you are all brainwashed by the communist/socialist/liberals that dominate the media and would like to see nothing but the destruction of traditional morality and family values in order to implement the hedonistic welfare state.

I'm a transgendered gay communist aethist,  I'm hear to bring about the the rise of your dark masters. 

Please don't feed the trolls. They get gassy and start sharting all over threads.

Modifié par v_ware, 25 mars 2011 - 07:14 .

[Lord Sullivan]

Tommy6860 wrote...

Angry_Bitter wrote...

The only reason all of you are accepting of homosexuality is because you are all brainwashed by the communist/socialist/liberals that dominate the media and would like to see nothing but the destruction of traditional morality and family values in order to implement the hedonistic welfare state.

I think it is time to lock down this thread!

Don't let get to ya, on the other hand we can all pick this up another time.

[FellowerOfOdin]

Oh dear gods, that quote system at the BSN is a mess. Seriously.

Tommy6860 wrote...
You are seriously misinformed if you think homosexuality is some kind of decision process or choice, it isn't. Being homoseuxal is no more of a choice, than if you or I choose to be heterosexual. Do you actually make a concerted decision to be straight every day in your life? The only choices made relevant to sexuality, is the act of engaging in sex.

Can you back that up please? I'd like to get a few sources that prove people being born homosexual, thanks. Right now, it's the complete opposite - humans are animals, we have strong reproduction instincts and reproduction can only happen as it's meant to be: sex between a male and a female being.

Listen to yourself. I would hardly consider someone my friend with such a condescending tone. You have gay friends, though you have to emphasize that you don't hate gays. But you all but proselytize heterosexuality onto two of them by some method of "hitting on" the opposite sex. Let me tell you something, they are still attracted to men, whether you believe them or not. And you are not their friend if you tried/are trying to make them into someoen they are not that you want them to be. A *real* friend accepts their friends just as they are.

A real friends wants the best for his friends and that's all I did. He is now happily married for 4 years and has a 2 year old daughter...man, looks like I ruined his life for him. Those guys were strong, intelligent and caring persons with a lot of social responsibility and I just can't see that go to waste - they are awesome potential parents, so I took the chance and did the best. 


As stated above, I am conservative and against stuff like e.g. homosexual marriages because I think that marriage is a very special ceremony / privilege that should be restricted to the "natural" couple of man and woman, including stuff like lower taxes and sth. as such a relationship increases the nation's growth / genetic pool and should be preserved.

Being homosexual is just as natural as being heterosexual is.

Okay, you're a troll, thanks, it's obvious now. It's natural to be homosexual? Great, we'd been extinct by now. As stated above, links / sources please. Scientific sources, not that Yahoo Questions stuff please 

[AlanC9]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

Tali is the most likable character? Uhm...not for me. I don't like talking to a robot for the entire game.

Usually I at least understand what you're trying to say. Not this time. Robot?

[NotFrom4chan]

Tommy6860 wrote...

Angry_Bitter wrote...

The only reason all of you are accepting of homosexuality is because you are all brainwashed by the communist/socialist/liberals that dominate the media and would like to see nothing but the destruction of traditional morality and family values in order to implement the hedonistic welfare state.

I think it is time to lock down this thread!

Help! Help! My world-view isn't being confirmed! I can't handle the possibility that some people don't agree with me!

[Teddie Sage]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

Being homosexual is just as natural as being heterosexual is.

Okay, you're a troll, thanks, it's obvious now. It's natural to be homosexual? Great, we'd been extinct by now. As stated above, links / sources please. Scientific sources, not that Yahoo Questions stuff please 

*sighs* You got it all wrong. It's as natural for some people to be gay as for people who are straight. They don't see the difference. It's like their brain tells them it's normal to think like that. There. You got it. You can't know unless you are.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 25 mars 2011 - 07:18 .

[Fault Girl]

Captain Jazz wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Angry_Bitter wrote...

The only reason all of you are accepting of homosexuality is because you are all brainwashed by the communist/socialist/liberals that dominate the media and would like to see nothing but the destruction of traditional morality and family values in order to implement the hedonistic welfare state.

I'm a transgendered gay communist aethist,  I'm hear to bring about the the rise of your dark masters. 

HEY! Don't go admitting it! How are we supposed to make them out to be crazy conspiracy theorists if we're admitting to our evil plots?

Damn those dirty lefties

*shakes left hand*

[Merci357]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Tommy6860 wrote...

Angry_Bitter wrote...

The only reason all of you are accepting of homosexuality is because you are all brainwashed by the communist/socialist/liberals that dominate the media and would like to see nothing but the destruction of traditional morality and family values in order to implement the hedonistic welfare state.

I think it is time to lock down this thread!

Don't let get to ya, on the other hand we can all pick this up another time.

And likely will, as this is the 3rd (?) thread about this topic I've seen in this forum section. There were other threads, as well, even in the ME part.

The problem is, someone like Angry_Bitter will get banned for his nonsense, but he'll just make a new account and is back to spread his hate speech.

[AngelicMachinery]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

A real friends wants the best for his friends and that's all I did. He is now happily married for 4 years and has a 2 year old daughter...man, looks like I ruined his life for him. Those guys were strong, intelligent and caring persons with a lot of social responsibility and I just can't see that go to waste - they are awesome potential parents, so I took the chance and did the best.

This is going to end in tears a few years down the line.

[dbrw]

I think it's always good give players more options, hope they do the same in ME3 but if they don't do it I won't care after all it's just a game.

Modifié par dbrw, 25 mars 2011 - 07:20 .

[Russalka]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...
A real friends wants the best for his friends and that's all I did. He is now happily married for 4 years and has a 2 year old daughter...man, looks like I ruined his life for him. Those guys were strong, intelligent and caring persons with a lot of social responsibility and I just can't see that go to waste - they are awesome potential parents, so I took the chance and did the best. 

As stated above, I am conservative and against stuff like e.g. homosexual marriages because I think that marriage is a very special ceremony / privilege that should be restricted to the "natural" couple of man and woman, including stuff like lower taxes and sth. as such a relationship increases the nation's growth / genetic pool and should be preserved.

How fun. Human worth is only measured by being sexually productive.
How is being a homosexual "going to waste", exactly? That does seem irrational to me, eg phobic.

They really do not stop being homosexual. The "reformed" lesbian and "reformed" gay man heading the US homosexuality curing movement, who got married, eventually divorced and came out with how the whole program was crap. Did nothing but cause grief and self-loathing.

I ask again. Should infertile people allowed to not be married? What about abusive people? Is an abusive parent better than a gay one?

Modifié par Russalka, 25 mars 2011 - 07:22 .

[solstickan]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Yeah, keep labeling people with it, YOU GO GIRL! I'm sure that will not fuel the fires that apparantly you seem to
see and want to extinguish, see how that works out for ya... just sayin.

I just got tired of people defending themselves against the term by making their own definition of it. Thought this would help, but apparentely it was taken in the wrong way.

Modifié par solstickan, 25 mars 2011 - 07:20 .

[FellowerOfOdin]

AlanC9 wrote...

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

Tali is the most likable character? Uhm...not for me. I don't like talking to a robot for the entire game.

Usually I at least understand what you're trying to say. Not this time. Robot?

I always had the impression of talking to a robot due to her mechanic voice and her always being in that suit...I mean, I know that she is an actual living alien, but...that voice is a huge turn-off. She also had that Arabian accent I.......do not like.

[Lord Sullivan]

solstickan wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Yeah, keep labeling people with it, YOU GO GIRL! I'm sure that will not fuel the fires that apparantly you seem to
see and want to extinguish, see how that works out for ya... just sayin.

I just got tired of people defending themselves against the term by making their own definition of it. Thought this would help, but apparentely it was taken in the wrong way.

It wasn't the term I was refering to, but line after

Modifié par Lord Sullivan, 25 mars 2011 - 07:24 .

[Fault Girl]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

A real friends wants the best for his friends and that's all I did. He is now happily married for 4 years and has a 2 year old daughter...man, looks like I ruined his life for him. Those guys were strong, intelligent and caring persons with a lot of social responsibility and I just can't see that go to waste - they are awesome potential parents, so I took the chance and did the best. 

Marriage isn't as special as it used to be, so people who love each other can't get married whilst many people do get married like 3/4 times and others use it to get visas etc can?

How fair is that?

I am really hoping that you are just winding us up with this stuff.

"Those guys were strong, intelligent and caring persons with a lot of social responsibility and I just can't see that go to waste"

So gay people can't be like that? sums up your views pretty much.

Modifié par ZombieGeisha, 25 mars 2011 - 07:25 .

[sleepyowlet]

Angry_Bitter wrote...

The only reason all of you are accepting of homosexuality is because you are all brainwashed by the communist/socialist/liberals that dominate the media and would like to see nothing but the destruction of traditional morality and family values in order to implement the hedonistic welfare state.

*snorfle*
Didn't know if I should laugh or cry. Decided to laugh. You are throwing big words around - and you clearly have no idea what half of them mean. Why don't you stop parroting empty phrases and start thinking for yourself? Your God gave you a brain for a reason, you know.

[FellowerOfOdin]

AngelicMachinery wrote...
This is going to end in tears a few years down the line.

Heterophobics everywhere!

Russalka wrote...
How fun. Human worth is only measured by being sexually productive.
How is being a homosexual "going to waste", exactly? That does seem irrational to me, eg phobic.

They really do not stop being homosexual. The "reformed" lesbian and "reformed" gay man heading the US homosexuality curing movement, who got married, eventually divorced and came out with how the whole program was crap. Did nothing but cause grief and self-loathing.

I wanted them to have children - and in a homosexual relationship, you cannot have children on your own.

Scientific research links / sources please? Until proven wrong, I still think that everyone is heterosexual by birth and then decides to be homosexual at one point - or not.

@Zombie: Not replying to obvious heterophobic troll attempts, thanks.

Modifié par FellowerOfOdin, 25 mars 2011 - 07:26 .

[moilami]

JironGhrad wrote...

solstickan wrote...

Homophobia is a range of negative attitudes and feelings towards lesbian, gay, bisexual, and in some cases transgender and intersex people. Definitions refer variably to antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, and irrational fear.[1][2][3] Homophobia is observable in critical and hostile behavior such as discrimination[1][2] and violence on the basis of a perceived non-heterosexual orientation.

From Wikipedia. 

And yes, this thread is full of it.

The thread is full of people responding in exactly the same way in favor of homosexuality too. This behavior isn't limited to merely one side of the argument, so let's keep that in mind.

True.

I haven't seen people being hostile towards gays in real life. But gays or whoever has been very hostile to those who don't want to do gay sex in real life or in video games or who do not want to be harassed by gays, or who ask for even ONE hetero LI.

However the homophobic card is pulled like it would be pop corn in BW forums.

[DamnThoseDisplayNames]

Topics like this really shift people's opinions from game issues to their real problems, don't they.
Devs must be happy seeing everyone at each other throats instead of hating their game again.

Modifié par DamnThoseDisplayNames, 25 mars 2011 - 07:27 .

[Captain Jazz]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

Tommy6860 wrote...
You are seriously misinformed if you think homosexuality is some kind of decision process or choice, it isn't. Being homoseuxal is no more of a choice, than if you or I choose to be heterosexual. Do you actually make a concerted decision to be straight every day in your life? The only choices made relevant to sexuality, is the act of engaging in sex.

Can you back that up please? I'd like to get a few sources that prove people being born homosexual, thanks. Right now, it's the complete opposite - humans are animals, we have strong reproduction instincts and reproduction can only happen as it's meant to be: sex between a male and a female being.

'Fraid I can't cite sources because... well, I don't memorise them, but I've read studies which show correlations between highly fertile females and homosexual males, meaning that the brother of a very fertile woman is more likely to be gay than the brother of a less fertile woman. It doesn't automatically show genetic causation, but it is suggestive of it.
But... tell me, at what point did you choose to be attracted to women? I know I never did, so why does it make sense to assume that others choose their sexuality? (And why exactly would someone choose to become a member of a hated minority?)

[Lord Sullivan]

sleepyowlet wrote...

Angry_Bitter wrote...

The only reason all of you are accepting of homosexuality is because you are all brainwashed by the communist/socialist/liberals that dominate the media and would like to see nothing but the destruction of traditional morality and family values in order to implement the hedonistic welfare state.

*snorfle*
Didn't know if I should laugh or cry. Decided to laugh. You are throwing big words around - and you clearly have no idea what half of them mean. Why don't you stop parroting empty phrases and start thinking for yourself? Your God gave you a brain for a reason, you know.

Wow, you must be more insightful then I, you see a brain in there? *chuckles*

[AlanC9]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

Being homosexual is just as natural as being heterosexual is.

Okay, you're a troll, thanks, it's obvious now. It's natural to be homosexual? Great, we'd been extinct by now. As stated above, links / sources please. Scientific sources, not that Yahoo Questions stuff please 

What do you mean by "natural"? Found in nature? All human cultures have some incidence of homosexuality, as do many animal species. Fairly common in primates, IIRC.

I guess I'm not clear about what sort of evidence you're looking for.

[petipas1414]

I must say I'm happy to see that this is still being bumped.

dude called someone an idiot in another thread

[Lord Sullivan]

DamnThoseDisplayNames wrote...

Topics like this really shift people's opinions from game issues to their real problems, don't they.
Devs must be happy seeing everyone at each other throats instead of hating their game again.

Laugh... but really it's quite a moderately decent argument going on.