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centauri2002 wrote...

Tirigon, are you trying to psychologically scar me? D:


No worries, I am experienced with this picture.

Last time i posted it, I had to post a picture of shirtless Robert Pattison to make the ladies like me again, would this do?:innocent:

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Centauri2002

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Tirigon wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Tirigon, are you trying to psychologically scar me? D:


No worries, I am experienced with this picture.

Last time i posted it, I had to post a picture of shirtless Robert Pattison to make the ladies like me again, would this do?:innocent:


That would certainly not do for me. :P

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Tirigon wrote...

moilami wrote...

I demand then an achievement for tanking hundred or so heterophobes! Or at least ten!


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A-A-A-ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: REAL MAN!!!!!!!



/eyebleach

This bisexer is not amused :devil:

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centauri2002 wrote...


That would certainly not do for me. :P


Bella Swan then?:innocent:

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David has won a few brownie points on my list for "Most Awesomely Awesome".
For my part, I hate it when there's so much s$it hitting the fan that the people who run the forums and make the games have to intercede amongst us little folk. People like this(the tool that Gaider PWNED) should be ashamed.

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Tirigon wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...


That would certainly not do for me. :P


Bella Swan then?:innocent:


At least that's the right gender, this time. ;) But, naw, I can't stand anything Twilight-y. Not to worry, I'll go purge the horrible imagery from my mind by watching Anna Torv. :3

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BobSmith101 wrote...

The Japanese invented a force feedback sex toy linked to a game.. The better you play the game the better umm feedback your girlfriend gets. Love those whacky Japanese Posted Image


And how do you happen to know that? Do I even want to know?


The game in question is Rez.

centauri2002 wrote...

At least that's the right gender, this time. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie] But,
naw, I can't stand anything Twilight-y. Not to worry, I'll go purge the
horrible imagery from my mind by watching Anna Torv. :3


The image was pretty lame, as far as I'm concerned.

But that doesn't mean I won't still watch another episode of Fringe...

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Centauri2002

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JediMB wrote...

But that doesn't mean I won't still watch another episode of Fringe...


As if we need an excuse to watch Fringe. ;)

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I for one am so sick of hearing about how "it's unrealistic that 4 out of 6 of your followers are bi." It's a game. It's a FANTASY game. You know what else is unrealistic?

Qunari
Elfs
Mages
Magic
Any and all of the combat

It's a different culture, a different time period...maybe things are just different. It's one thing to set something in USA 2011 with 4/6 of your characters bisexual, or in 19th century England. But it's a fantasy place, a fantasy time, and a fantasy culture. And frankly, I just don't CARE if the whole world is bisexual in THIS universe or DA's. I just don't care.

Also, the next person who brings in something Twilighty claiming it's for the ladies is going to get clocked and/or puked on.

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moilami wrote...

Forums are like women. They **** and moan and threaten to ban you. But if they do ban, you can just move to the next forum.


This time,  I'm really not sure if your serious or not...

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WingsandRings wrote...

I for one am so sick of hearing about how "it's unrealistic that 4 out of 6 of your followers are bi." It's a game. It's a FANTASY game. You know what else is unrealistic?

Qunari
Elfs
Mages
Magic
Any and all of the combat

It's a different culture, a different time period...maybe things are just different. It's one thing to set something in USA 2011 with 4/6 of your characters bisexual, or in 19th century England. But it's a fantasy place, a fantasy time, and a fantasy culture. And frankly, I just don't CARE if the whole world is bisexual in THIS universe or DA's. I just don't care.

Also, the next person who brings in something Twilighty claiming it's for the ladies is going to get clocked and/or puked on.


Agreed. Oh, and you get bonus points for the final comment. :3

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O considering the game is high fantasy and well normally based baqck in midevil times do some history research back in the days of ancient rome hell even now days in the arab nations bi is like a good amount of their populations.

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Goldrock wrote...

O considering the game is high fantasy and well normally based baqck in midevil times do some history research back in the days of ancient rome hell even now days in the arab nations bi is like a good amount of their populations.


Oh where to start with this... okay, history and fantasy are two very separate things. Also, Ancient Rome was not anywhere around a medieval period. Romans were not as liberal with their sexual relations as you might think either. Perhaps you're thinking more of the Greeks? Although, that's also debatable but I shan't get into it. >.>

Not that I'm arguing against bisexuality in fantasy, but I know someone will use the inaccuracies in your post to do so. :P

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My complaints have nothing to do with 'realism'. :P I just think there's more opportunity for character development and role-play if the NPCs have set orientations rather than hormonal weather vanes that swing due Hawke. That kind of thing I find cheap and lacking in integrity. Others think it's more inclusive. I think it's less immersive.

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

My complaints have nothing to do with 'realism'. :P I just think there's more opportunity for character development and role-play if the NPCs have set orientations rather than hormonal weather vanes that swing due Hawke. That kind of thing I find cheap and lacking in integrity. Others think it's more inclusive. I think it's less immersive.


Sebastian is straight. Why is it that you assume it's not supposed to be a set orientation? I thought Anders was gay all throughout awakening..Only in this one did he admit he liked men as well as women. Something along the lines of.. Most men wouldn't just go saying that..but you're not like most men. Isabela is bi, always was, probably bang anything with a pulse. How do you know for certain that being bi isn't part of each and every one of their personalities?

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I have to agree that having every character romancable is lazy character development. It's not a gay/bi-sexual issue, it's simply pure lack of character depth and development, period.

Your character has the ability to steer clear of bi-sexual or gay activity when an NPC hints at interest, but the NPC doesn't have the same ability when you hint that you are interested, really? Why? Because as the player you should ALWAYS get what you want? It's this me-centric mentality that drives me crazy, trying to cater to everyone's whims so that you don't 'discriminate' or are not viewed as discriminating, always protecting yourself so you don't have to defend what you think, believe, or the product you've created is just assinine. Giving everyone the EXACT same opportunity is not even feasible.

I don't care how great of a guy Anders is, I'm not interested in him. And it should apply to NPC's as well, if I'm just not Isabella's type, because she prefers the ladies, then I should have no shot with her.

That's my .02.


Your post is a perfect example of stupidity masquerading as intelligence thanks to the rules of grammar.  Making characters romanceable involves more work so it can't be lazy to do so.  The NPC is totally scripted.  I'll let you figure out what that means.



So you are saying that because the characters are romanceable, that it couldn't have been lazy because someone had to work on the scripting. I give you that, whether it's the exact same scripting as in DAO, a modified version, or a completely new version,yes someone did the work. And I'm sure it took time to accomplish.

I don't recall attacking any employees work ethic, or saying that the employees actions, in themselves were lazy. Did I even hint that the NPC's weren't scripted?

I guess I should have worded it differently so that you understood that in my opinion they weren't scripted well. It seems to me that if you are able to romance practically any character that all they had to do was 'cut and paste' if you will. And that, in my opinion, they did not develop the romances thoroughly and give the NPC some say in their preference(s).

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Lol cut & paste romances.

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Emeraq wrote...

I guess I should have worded it differently so that you understood that in my opinion they weren't scripted well. It seems to me that if you are able to romance practically any character that all they had to do was 'cut and paste' if you will. And that, in my opinion, they did not develop the romances thoroughly and give the NPC some say in their preference(s).


I'm seeing your point but I don't think BioWare will be able to make everyone happy whatever they do. If they'd made some of the characters straight, bisexual and gay, then there'd be people complaining over that. This way, it's somewhat unrealistic but at least you can choose who you can romance. I would really like to see solely gay characters in a game someday but I'm willing to make do with these bisexual characters until people can get over their reservations about that. Or perhaps I'm merely willing to settle for less because I'm so used to being excluded in games over the years. Hmm. >.>

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WingsandRings wrote...

I for one am so sick of hearing about how "it's unrealistic that 4 out of 6 of your followers are bi." It's a game. It's a FANTASY game. You know what else is unrealistic?

Qunari
Elfs
Mages
Magic
Any and all of the combat


No they´re not: http://www.instructa...y-Mod-Elf-Ears/
:P:innocent:


Also, the next person who brings in something Twilighty claiming it's for the ladies is going to get clocked and/or puked on.

Is it my fault all the girls I know either love Twilight or like it?
And is it my fault they all think Robert Pattinson is hot, even though he isn´t?

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Jademoon121 wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

moilami wrote...

I demand then an achievement for tanking hundred or so heterophobes! Or at least ten!


Posted Image

A-A-A-ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: REAL MAN!!!!!!!



/eyebleach

This bisexer is not amused :devil:


HEY! NO ONE CAN DISS MANOWAR!! It's unacceptable.

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O considering the game is high fantasy and well normally based baqck in midevil times do some history research back in the days of ancient rome hell even now days in the arab nations bi is like a good amount of their populations.


So? The Ancient romans were barbaric by today's standards. And now Arab nations are supposedly a model society for us to draw examples from?

That whole line of argument holds no weight. These games are not a faithful replication of anything, be it modern, classical or medieval conventions.

Every aspect of these games is cherry picked according to the values of the developers, the publishers and the marketing team. Thus far I have heard nothing satisfactory from the developers as to why homosexuality is so prevalent, other than branding opposition to their choices 'homophobic'. But you don't need to answer those questions, do you Gaider? Because why would anyone even be asking that? They have no right to question your values.

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NotFrom4chan wrote...

But you don't need to answer those questions, do you Gaider? Because why would anyone even be asking that? They have no right to question your values.


That is, actually, correct.

Also, good folks, NOTE THIS PERSON´S USERNAME: NotFrom4Chan. this is definite proof that we are dealing with a 4Chan troll.....

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Tirigon wrote...

NotFrom4chan wrote...

But you don't need to answer those questions, do you Gaider? Because why would anyone even be asking that? They have no right to question your values.


That is, actually, correct.

Also, good folks, NOTE THIS PERSON´S USERNAME: NotFrom4Chan. this is definite proof that we are dealing with a 4Chan troll.....


Definite proof, is it? I went to all that trouble to write a lengthy, non-inflammatory comment, and I am simply trolling? Must be fun living in a world when you can shut out all opinions that differ from yours by shouting 'troll'.

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Just a thought.

How many of these offended "straight male gamers" (who IMO, do not represent the demographic) have absolutely no problem playing a lesbian romance with Isabela as female Hawke? Yet while many of these offended people probably have no problem doing that, they whine that Anders hits on them as Male Hawke.

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Rykoth wrote...

Just a thought.

How many of these offended "straight male gamers" (who IMO, do not represent the demographic) have absolutely no problem playing a lesbian romance with Isabela as female Hawke? Yet while many of these offended people probably have no problem doing that, they whine that Anders hits on them as Male Hawke.


Why should people react exactly the same way to lesbians as they do to homosexuals?