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[Cadaveth]

centauri2002 wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

What gays are bucking heads about is wanting heterosexuals to have no problem with being "hit on" by homosexuals... that is something that just doesn't make sense(logic). As to how heterosexuals react to it can be different from person to person, but one cannot expect it to be all pink roses.

No, but people don't have "I'M GAY!!!" or "I'M STRAIGHT!!!" signs on them. I wouldn't raise hell if woman was attracted to me. I'd turn her off sure, but I don't see anything offending about that. And as I said, I don't know anyone who would be offended by gay man hitting on him.

Life would be so much easier if people did carry around those signs.

I know. Or maybe if there would be a device called Gaydar. That would be cool.

Mine works just fine. People should get theirs serviced more often. 

So you can seriously say that you know if someone is gay or not if you're walking down the street or go into a bar which isn't gay bar? Non-stereotypical gays, I might add. You can sometimes tell that...

[Seifz]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Seifz wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

What gays are bucking heads about is wanting heterosexuals to have no problem with being "hit on" by homosexuals... that is something that just doesn't make sense(logic). As to how heterosexuals react to it can be different from person to person, but one cannot expect it to be all pink roses.

No, but people don't have "I'M GAY!!!" or "I'M STRAIGHT!!!" signs on them. I wouldn't raise hell if woman was attracted to me. I'd turn her off sure, but I don't see anything offending about that. And as I said, I don't know anyone who would be offended by gay man hitting on him.

Life would be so much easier if people did carry around those signs.

It'd be even better if they carried "I'm taken!" and "I'm single!" signs...

Some do!  Cladda Rings,  promise rings, engagment rings.  You just have to look at peoples hands,  I make a habbit of it.

Yeah, but so many just have a boyfriend and no ring.  Mandatory rings, dammit! 

[moilami]

I think I could troll this forum big time without none realizing it.

[Seifz]

moilami wrote...

I think I could troll this forum big time without none realizing it.

Easily.  But that would be a dick thing to do.

[AlanC9]

Seifz wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

It's quite ironic that while time as move forward and that heterosexuals have generaly changed their stance(leaving exeptions aside) towards homosexuality and showing basic human mutual respect to gays, now gays want more then just respect, they want heterosexuals to open up to homosuaexuality? or else you're negative towards gays?

Delusional much? or admiting that homosexuality is a choice since gay seem to believe heterosexuals can open up to homosexuality?

Are you trying to suggest that homosexuals are trying to recruit heterosexuals to join them or something?

That's... I don't even... Holy ****.

Pretty much my reaction, too.

[Centauri2002]

Cadaveth wrote...

So you can seriously say that you know if someone is gay or not if you're walking down the street or go into a bar which isn't gay bar? Non-stereotypical gays, I might add. You can sometimes tell that...

I'm sure there are many people I've passed by who are gay and I've not even thought about it. it doesn't consume my thoughts. >.> However, when I do see someone who 'pings my gaydar', I'm usually right. And I'm not talking stereotypical lesbians or gays, I generally don't see many of those in the area I live in. I don't frequent the scene either so that tends to limit my contact with raging stereotypes. 

[Cadaveth]

centauri2002 wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

So you can seriously say that you know if someone is gay or not if you're walking down the street or go into a bar which isn't gay bar? Non-stereotypical gays, I might add. You can sometimes tell that...

I'm sure there are many people I've passed by who are gay and I've not even thought about it. it doesn't consume my thoughts. >.> However, when I do see someone who 'pings my gaydar', I'm usually right. And I'm not talking stereotypical lesbians or gays, I generally don't see many of those in the area I live in. I don't frequent the scene either so that tends to limit my contact with raging stereotypes. 

So you'd know that this guy is gay if he passed by you? 

[Lord Sullivan]

AlanC9 wrote...

Seifz wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

It's quite ironic that while time as move forward and that heterosexuals have generaly changed their stance(leaving exeptions aside) towards homosexuality and showing basic human mutual respect to gays, now gays want more then just respect, they want heterosexuals to open up to homosuaexuality? or else you're negative towards gays?

Delusional much? or admiting that homosexuality is a choice since gay seem to believe heterosexuals can open up to homosexuality?

Are you trying to suggest that homosexuals are trying to recruit heterosexuals to join them or something?

That's... I don't even... Holy ****.

Pretty much my reaction, too.

Ok about a question then...

How can one be (purely) heteroseuxal and think homsexuality and bi-seuxality ia all good?

[Seifz]

centauri2002 wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

So you can seriously say that you know if someone is gay or not if you're walking down the street or go into a bar which isn't gay bar? Non-stereotypical gays, I might add. You can sometimes tell that...

I'm sure there are many people I've passed by who are gay and I've not even thought about it. it doesn't consume my thoughts. >.> However, when I do see someone who 'pings my gaydar', I'm usually right. And I'm not talking stereotypical lesbians or gays, I generally don't see many of those in the area I live in. I don't frequent the scene either so that tends to limit my contact with raging stereotypes.

Well, common wisdom holds that homosexuals have the best gaydar. 

I don't see why that would be true, really, but let's go with it!

[Lord Sullivan]

Cadaveth wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

So you can seriously say that you know if someone is gay or not if you're walking down the street or go into a bar which isn't gay bar? Non-stereotypical gays, I might add. You can sometimes tell that...

I'm sure there are many people I've passed by who are gay and I've not even thought about it. it doesn't consume my thoughts. >.> However, when I do see someone who 'pings my gaydar', I'm usually right. And I'm not talking stereotypical lesbians or gays, I generally don't see many of those in the area I live in. I don't frequent the scene either so that tends to limit my contact with raging stereotypes. 

So you'd know that this guy is gay if he passed by you? 

Well I always had a gut feeling that Ricky Martin was gay... before he came out of the closet that is. I couldn't know for sure as i never hang around with the guy obviously

[Centauri2002]

Cadaveth wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

So you can seriously say that you know if someone is gay or not if you're walking down the street or go into a bar which isn't gay bar? Non-stereotypical gays, I might add. You can sometimes tell that...

I'm sure there are many people I've passed by who are gay and I've not even thought about it. it doesn't consume my thoughts. >.> However, when I do see someone who 'pings my gaydar', I'm usually right. And I'm not talking stereotypical lesbians or gays, I generally don't see many of those in the area I live in. I don't frequent the scene either so that tends to limit my contact with raging stereotypes. 

So you'd know that this guy is gay if he passed by you? 

Now you're putting me on the spot. He may not even be a blip on my gaydar. >.> In my defence, my gaydar is somewhat woman-centric.

[PirateT138]

Not a fan of the strong gay overtones. Period. There's only one male companion that doesn't give off serious feminine vibes and that's Varric, thank god for Varric.

[Centauri2002]

Seifz wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

So you can seriously say that you know if someone is gay or not if you're walking down the street or go into a bar which isn't gay bar? Non-stereotypical gays, I might add. You can sometimes tell that...

I'm sure there are many people I've passed by who are gay and I've not even thought about it. it doesn't consume my thoughts. >.> However, when I do see someone who 'pings my gaydar', I'm usually right. And I'm not talking stereotypical lesbians or gays, I generally don't see many of those in the area I live in. I don't frequent the scene either so that tends to limit my contact with raging stereotypes.

Well, common wisdom holds that homosexuals have the best gaydar. 

I don't see why that would be true, really, but let's go with it!

Hehe, most of my gay friends have awful gaydar. Poor them. >.>

[Cadaveth]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Seifz wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

It's quite ironic that while time as move forward and that heterosexuals have generaly changed their stance(leaving exeptions aside) towards homosexuality and showing basic human mutual respect to gays, now gays want more then just respect, they want heterosexuals to open up to homosuaexuality? or else you're negative towards gays?

Delusional much? or admiting that homosexuality is a choice since gay seem to believe heterosexuals can open up to homosexuality?

Are you trying to suggest that homosexuals are trying to recruit heterosexuals to join them or something?

That's... I don't even... Holy ****.

Pretty much my reaction, too.

Ok about a question then...

How can one be (purely) heteroseuxal and think homsexuality and bi-seuxality ia all good?

Better question would be why heterosexual couldn't think that homosexuality is ok? It's like saying that if you're right handed,  you can't think that left-handedness is ok.

[Cadaveth]

centauri2002 wrote...

Seifz wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

So you can seriously say that you know if someone is gay or not if you're walking down the street or go into a bar which isn't gay bar? Non-stereotypical gays, I might add. You can sometimes tell that...

I'm sure there are many people I've passed by who are gay and I've not even thought about it. it doesn't consume my thoughts. >.> However, when I do see someone who 'pings my gaydar', I'm usually right. And I'm not talking stereotypical lesbians or gays, I generally don't see many of those in the area I live in. I don't frequent the scene either so that tends to limit my contact with raging stereotypes.

Well, common wisdom holds that homosexuals have the best gaydar. 

I don't see why that would be true, really, but let's go with it!

Hehe, most of my gay friends have awful gaydar. Poor them. >.>

That's somewhat true, I have hard time with that (really really bad pun intended).

[Centauri2002]

Cadaveth wrote...

That's somewhat true, I have hard time with that (really really bad pun intended).

I think the assumption that we all have gaydar is just a myth; our ability to pick out a gay person from a heterosexual is more to do with how good a person is at reading others. Experience has made me fairly good at detecting little things in a person's behaviour, but not everyone can do it. It's a fun myth to play with though.

[Lord Sullivan]

Cadaveth wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Seifz wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

It's quite ironic that while time as move forward and that heterosexuals have generaly changed their stance(leaving exeptions aside) towards homosexuality and showing basic human mutual respect to gays, now gays want more then just respect, they want heterosexuals to open up to homosuaexuality? or else you're negative towards gays?

Delusional much? or admiting that homosexuality is a choice since gay seem to believe heterosexuals can open up to homosexuality?

Are you trying to suggest that homosexuals are trying to recruit heterosexuals to join them or something?

That's... I don't even... Holy ****.

Pretty much my reaction, too.

Ok about a question then...

How can one be (purely) heteroseuxal and think homsexuality and bi-seuxality ia all good?

Better question would be why heterosexual couldn't think that homosexuality is ok? It's like saying that if you're right handed,  you can't think that left-handedness is ok.

Because to be either right handed of left handed has nothing to do with a norm, sexuality does however.

Modifié par Lord Sullivan, 27 mars 2011 - 07:18 .

[Lord Sullivan]

centauri2002 wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

That's somewhat true, I have hard time with that (really really bad pun intended).

I think the assumption that we all have gaydar is just a myth; our ability to pick out a gay person from a heterosexual is more to do with how good a person is at reading others. Experience has made me fairly good at detecting little things in a person's behaviour, but not everyone can do it. It's a fun myth to play with though.

Agreed, experience does have to do with it.

[Centauri2002]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Because to either right handed of left handed has nothing to do with a norm, sexuality does however.

It wasn't that long ago when left-handed children were caned for using their left hand. Before that, left-handed people were branded as witches. But now there isn't an issue with it. You see where I'm going with this..?

[moilami]

centauri2002 wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

That's somewhat true, I have hard time with that (really really bad pun intended).

I think the assumption that we all have gaydar is just a myth; our ability to pick out a gay person from a heterosexual is more to do with how good a person is at reading others. Experience has made me fairly good at detecting little things in a person's behaviour, but not everyone can do it. It's a fun myth to play with though.

I am thinking does this gaydar develop because of the need to see subtle hints of gayness so that an advancement can be made without embarassing the other one or revealing accidentally to a hetero that you are a gay?

I think I see it more as some kind of very complex behaviour and communication codex. It must be discrete enough so that heteros does not see it but yet allow gays to identify each other.

[Lord Sullivan]

centauri2002 wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Because to either right handed of left handed has nothing to do with a norm, sexuality does however.

It wasn't that long ago when left-handed children were caned for using their left hand. Before that, left-handed people were branded as witches. But now there isn't an issue with it. You see where I'm going with this..?

Yes just like women being caned for practicing healing and their intelligence. Both have notheing to do with a norm. It's not out of the ordinary for someone to be left handed nor is for a woman to be intelligent and/or a healer.

By nature's law homosexuality is out of the ordinary.

[Centauri2002]

moilami wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

That's somewhat true, I have hard time with that (really really bad pun intended).

I think the assumption that we all have gaydar is just a myth; our ability to pick out a gay person from a heterosexual is more to do with how good a person is at reading others. Experience has made me fairly good at detecting little things in a person's behaviour, but not everyone can do it. It's a fun myth to play with though.

I am thinking does this gaydar develop because of the need to see subtle hints of gayness so that an advancement can be made without embarassing the other one or revealing accidentally to a hetero that you are a gay?

I think I see it more as some kind of very complex behaviour and communication codex. It must be discrete enough so that heteros does not see it but yet allow gays to identify each other.

That's actually a good question. I couldn't really say why I developed mine. I haven't really needed to pay attention to these subtle indicators so I can find a partner but I still pay close attention to them because I find human interaction fascinating. At first, this helped me in my career but it's just turned into something that interested me. Everyone's so different, it's intriguing. :3

It would be interesting to see if there's been a study done on this though.

[solstickan]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Yes just like women being caned for practicing healing and their intelligence. Both have notheing to do with a norm. It's not out of the ordinary for someone to be left handed nor is for a woman to be intelligent and/or a healer.

By nature's law homosexuality is out of the ordinary.

It's funny that you would mention nature, when homosexuality is, in fact, very common in the animal kingdom (and last time I checked, humans are animals too). Homosexuality is out of the ordinary the same way as left handedness (as in, it happens to be in the minority.)

[Centauri2002]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Yes just like women being caned for practicing healing and their intelligence. Both have notheing to do with a norm. It's not out of the ordinary for someone to be left handed nor is for a woman to be intelligent and/or a healer.

By nature's law homosexuality is out of the ordinary.

Maybe you'd like to define 'the norm' for this little discussion then. To me, the norm would be the majority. Since right-handed people were, and are, in the majority, this makes it the norm. I think the percentage of left-handed people in the world is at the 11% mark, though I may be wrong. This is somewhat close to the supposed percentage of homosexuals. Since being left-handed was ostracised, I think it's a good parallel to use.

[Wincer]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Because to either right handed of left handed has nothing to do with a norm, sexuality does however.

It wasn't that long ago when left-handed children were caned for using their left hand. Before that, left-handed people were branded as witches. But now there isn't an issue with it. You see where I'm going with this..?

Yes just like women being caned for practicing healing and their intelligence. Both have notheing to do with a norm. It's not out of the ordinary for someone to be left handed nor is for a woman to be intelligent and/or a healer.

By nature's law homosexuality is out of the ordinary.

If the body is aroused by a body like its own, how is that not natural? You cannot trigger an erection at will. If it comes from thinking about a man that is the body's nature.
One does not choose to be attracted to something, we simply are.
Can you change your sexuality? If so you are unnatural.

Modifié par Wincer, 27 mars 2011 - 07:36 .