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[moilami]

centauri2002 wrote...

moilami wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

That's somewhat true, I have hard time with that (really really bad pun intended).

I think the assumption that we all have gaydar is just a myth; our ability to pick out a gay person from a heterosexual is more to do with how good a person is at reading others. Experience has made me fairly good at detecting little things in a person's behaviour, but not everyone can do it. It's a fun myth to play with though.

I am thinking does this gaydar develop because of the need to see subtle hints of gayness so that an advancement can be made without embarassing the other one or revealing accidentally to a hetero that you are a gay?

I think I see it more as some kind of very complex behaviour and communication codex. It must be discrete enough so that heteros does not see it but yet allow gays to identify each other.

That's actually a good question. I couldn't really say why I developed mine. I haven't really needed to pay attention to these subtle indicators so I can find a partner but I still pay close attention to them because I find human interaction fascinating. At first, this helped me in my career but it's just turned into something that interested me. Everyone's so different, it's intriguing. :3

It would be interesting to see if there's been a study done on this though.

It can be possible that there has been times when gays haven't been able to be gays so openly like you can.

A study could be made of this gaydar anyway, and it would be interesting.

Lets say gays and heteros would chat randomly one on one about some suitable topic. After they had chatted for one hour a question "was the one with you chatted with a gay" would be asked.

[Centauri2002]

moilami wrote...

It can be possible that there has been times when gays haven't been able to be gays so openly like you can.

A study could be made of this gaydar anyway, and it would be interesting.

Lets say gays and heteros would chat randomly one on one about some suitable topic. After they had chatted for one hour a question "was the one with you chatted with a gay" would be asked.

Well, I don't flaunt my sexuality, and it's not something I tell people I come across. I've just been fairly lucky when it comes to other lesbians being attracted to me. In fact, a lot of the women I've met don't believe I'm gay at all since I don't fit into the stereotype. Scene lesbians can be funny like that. >.> Anyway, I'm sure they used the same process I use in order to tell that I was gay. I just wish I knew what gave me away.

That seems like a fair study and something I'd really like to read once it was done. Surely, there must be at least one out there already.

[Lord Sullivan]

Wincer wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Because to either right handed of left handed has nothing to do with a norm, sexuality does however.

It wasn't that long ago when left-handed children were caned for using their left hand. Before that, left-handed people were branded as witches. But now there isn't an issue with it. You see where I'm going with this..?

Yes just like women being caned for practicing healing and their intelligence. Both have notheing to do with a norm. It's not out of the ordinary for someone to be left handed nor is for a woman to be intelligent and/or a healer.

By nature's law homosexuality is out of the ordinary.

If the body is aroused by a body like its own, how is that not natural. You can not trigger an erection at will. If it comes from thinking about a man that is the body's nature.
One does not choose to be attracted to something, we simply are.
Can you change your sexuality? If so you are unnatural.

The point I'm making is that in order for humanity to survive it needs to grow (reproduce) since we have a life span. For this to happen, nature decided to design two genders that need to connect sexualy for reproduction and for that to happen it created sexual desire.

So there is your 101 answer to why it's unnatural. That's not saying that "Things don't always go as planed" do not apply to nature.

Modifié par Lord Sullivan, 27 mars 2011 - 07:42 .

[Centauri2002]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Wincer wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Because to either right handed of left handed has nothing to do with a norm, sexuality does however.

It wasn't that long ago when left-handed children were caned for using their left hand. Before that, left-handed people were branded as witches. But now there isn't an issue with it. You see where I'm going with this..?

Yes just like women being caned for practicing healing and their intelligence. Both have notheing to do with a norm. It's not out of the ordinary for someone to be left handed nor is for a woman to be intelligent and/or a healer.

By nature's law homosexuality is out of the ordinary.

If the body is aroused by a body like its own, how is that not natural. You can not trigger an erection at will. If it comes from thinking about a man that is the body's nature.
One does not choose to be attracted to something, we simply are.
Can you change your sexuality? If so you are unnatural.

The point I'm making is that in order for humanity to survive it needs to grow (reproduce) since we have a life span. For this to happen, nature decided to design two genders that need to connect sexualy for reproduction and for that to happen it created sexual desire.

So there is your 101 answer to why it's unnatural. That's not saying that "Things don't always go as planed" do not apply to nature.

Maybe homosexuality is nature's way of controlling the population, since we are quite out of control.

[AngelicMachinery]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Wincer wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Because to either right handed of left handed has nothing to do with a norm, sexuality does however.

It wasn't that long ago when left-handed children were caned for using their left hand. Before that, left-handed people were branded as witches. But now there isn't an issue with it. You see where I'm going with this..?

Yes just like women being caned for practicing healing and their intelligence. Both have notheing to do with a norm. It's not out of the ordinary for someone to be left handed nor is for a woman to be intelligent and/or a healer.

By nature's law homosexuality is out of the ordinary.

If the body is aroused by a body like its own, how is that not natural. You can not trigger an erection at will. If it comes from thinking about a man that is the body's nature.
One does not choose to be attracted to something, we simply are.
Can you change your sexuality? If so you are unnatural.

The point I'm making is that in order for humanity to survive it needs to grow (reproduce) since we have a life span. For this to happen, nature decided to design two genders that need to connect sexualy for reproduction and for that to happen it created sexual desire.

So there is your 101 answer to why it's unnatural. That's not saying that "Things don't always go as planed" do not apply to nature.

Were at a point where population growth is actually a  negative,  and there has been some theories that homosexuality crops up to keep populations at a more manageable level.  Also, does this make the person who doesn't want children outside the norm, or the infertile person,  or whatever other variables that come up that coud stop a person from reproducing.

[moilami]

centauri2002 wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Wincer wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Because to either right handed of left handed has nothing to do with a norm, sexuality does however.

It wasn't that long ago when left-handed children were caned for using their left hand. Before that, left-handed people were branded as witches. But now there isn't an issue with it. You see where I'm going with this..?

Yes just like women being caned for practicing healing and their intelligence. Both have notheing to do with a norm. It's not out of the ordinary for someone to be left handed nor is for a woman to be intelligent and/or a healer.

By nature's law homosexuality is out of the ordinary.

If the body is aroused by a body like its own, how is that not natural. You can not trigger an erection at will. If it comes from thinking about a man that is the body's nature.
One does not choose to be attracted to something, we simply are.
Can you change your sexuality? If so you are unnatural.

The point I'm making is that in order for humanity to survive it needs to grow (reproduce) since we have a life span. For this to happen, nature decided to design two genders that need to connect sexualy for reproduction and for that to happen it created sexual desire.

So there is your 101 answer to why it's unnatural. That's not saying that "Things don't always go as planed" do not apply to nature.

Maybe homosexuality is nature's way of controlling the population, since we are quite out of control.

lol'd

[Lord Sullivan]

centauri2002 wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Wincer wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Because to either right handed of left handed has nothing to do with a norm, sexuality does however.

It wasn't that long ago when left-handed children were caned for using their left hand. Before that, left-handed people were branded as witches. But now there isn't an issue with it. You see where I'm going with this..?

Yes just like women being caned for practicing healing and their intelligence. Both have notheing to do with a norm. It's not out of the ordinary for someone to be left handed nor is for a woman to be intelligent and/or a healer.

By nature's law homosexuality is out of the ordinary.

If the body is aroused by a body like its own, how is that not natural. You can not trigger an erection at will. If it comes from thinking about a man that is the body's nature.
One does not choose to be attracted to something, we simply are.
Can you change your sexuality? If so you are unnatural.

The point I'm making is that in order for humanity to survive it needs to grow (reproduce) since we have a life span. For this to happen, nature decided to design two genders that need to connect sexualy for reproduction and for that to happen it created sexual desire.

So there is your 101 answer to why it's unnatural. That's not saying that "Things don't always go as planed" do not apply to nature.

Maybe homosexuality is nature's way of controlling the population, since we are quite out of control.

Out of control? no, but can reproduce at an incredible rate? maybe. Than why would gay women want to have children by  insemination? should it be alowed if homosexuality is a natural law of nature?

It's complex now isn't it? 

Modifié par Lord Sullivan, 27 mars 2011 - 07:49 .

[Seifz]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Wincer wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Because to either right handed of left handed has nothing to do with a norm, sexuality does however.

It wasn't that long ago when left-handed children were caned for using their left hand. Before that, left-handed people were branded as witches. But now there isn't an issue with it. You see where I'm going with this..?

Yes just like women being caned for practicing healing and their intelligence. Both have notheing to do with a norm. It's not out of the ordinary for someone to be left handed nor is for a woman to be intelligent and/or a healer.

By nature's law homosexuality is out of the ordinary.

If the body is aroused by a body like its own, how is that not natural. You can not trigger an erection at will. If it comes from thinking about a man that is the body's nature.
One does not choose to be attracted to something, we simply are.
Can you change your sexuality? If so you are unnatural.

The point I'm making is that in order for humanity to survive it needs to grow (reproduce) since we have a life span. For this to happen, nature decided to design two genders that need to connect sexualy for reproduction and for that to happen it created sexual desire.

So there is your 101 answer to why it's unnatural. That's not saying that "Things don't always go as planed" do not apply to nature.

Please stop.  You don't know what you're talking about.

Topics of interest:  evolution, natural selection, sexual selection, human sexuality, game theory, population modeling.

[solstickan]

Please stop with the pyramid quoting. If you're only replying to the latest post, then quote that one only.

[Centauri2002]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Out of control? no, but can reproduce at an incredible rate? maybe. Than why would gay women want to have children by  insemination? should it be alowed if that is a natural law of nature?

It's complex now isn't it? 

To heck with insemination, I'm just waiting for an asari to come along to have my child!

But seriously, we're straying a bit off-topic here. There's a big gap between inclusivity in games to the ethics of aritificial insemination.

[Seifz]

solstickan wrote...

Please stop with the pyramid quoting. If you're only replying to the latest post, then quote that one only.

It's easier to just hit quote.  If you don't like it, tell the web team to change it.

[the_one_54321]

I don't care about the homosexuality issue.

Fair is fair, end of story.

However, I do care that the writers took a short cut to provide options instead of writing more characters. The presentation of characters in ME2, despite the relative lack of dialog, was much better.

Seifz wrote...
It's easier to just hit quote.  If you don't like it, tell the web team to change it.

The mods actually frown on the pyramid quotes. If you keep doing it you should be prepared to potentially have your posts deleted.

Modifié par the_one_54321, 27 mars 2011 - 07:54 .

[Lord Sullivan]

Seifz wrote...

Please stop.  You don't know what you're talking about.

Topics of interest:  evolution, natural selection, sexual selection, human sexuality, game theory, population modeling.

Yeah, lets all put a blindful to the truths all around us and pretend. I know exactly what you're talking about.

[Centauri2002]

solstickan wrote...

Please stop with the pyramid quoting. If you're only replying to the latest post, then quote that one only.

There's all these controversial topics being debated here and you feel inclined to comment on the method of quoting. >.>

[moilami]

solstickan wrote...

Please stop with the pyramid quoting. If you're only replying to the latest post, then quote that one only.

dis be no Usenet

[moilami]

the_one_54321 wrote...

I don't care about the homosexuality issue.

Fair is fair, end of story.

However, I do care that the writers took a short cut to provide options instead of writing more characters. The presentation of characters in ME2, despite the relative lack of dialog, was much better.

Seifz wrote...
It's easier to just hit quote.  If you don't like it, tell the web team to change it.

The mods actually frown on the pyramid quotes. If you keep doing it you should be prepared to potentially have your posts deleted.

The thing is that it is far too complicated to mess with the right quoting in this forum. I don't go to details why it is so but there are many reasons for it. That promotes to just click and bottom post.

[Seifz]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Seifz wrote...

Please stop.  You don't know what you're talking about.

Topics of interest:  evolution, natural selection, sexual selection, human sexuality, game theory, population modeling.

Yeah, lets all put a blindful to the truths all around us and pretend. I know exactly what you're talking about.

I don't even know what that means.  What are you trying to say?

[Centauri2002]

Well, that quote comment killed the debate. >.>

[Tirigon]

moilami wrote...

I think I could troll this forum big time without none realizing it.

And there I thought you were helping me doing exactly that for the last 3 days already:whistle:

[Seifz]

moilami wrote...

the_one_54321 wrote...

I don't care about the homosexuality issue.

Fair is fair, end of story.

However, I do care that the writers took a short cut to provide options instead of writing more characters. The presentation of characters in ME2, despite the relative lack of dialog, was much better.

Seifz wrote...
It's easier to just hit quote.  If you don't like it, tell the web team to change it.

The mods actually frown on the pyramid quotes. If you keep doing it you should be prepared to potentially have your posts deleted.

The thing is that it is far too complicated to mess with the right quoting in this forum. I don't go to details why it is so but there are many reasons for it. That promotes to just click and bottom post.

Yeah, pretty much.  The quote tags seem to appear in random places and it's easy to miss one, quotes in edited posts appear differently than normal quotes, etc.  I've written a fair number of poorly formatted posts that I had to then go edit because of the quote system here.

[moilami]

centauri2002 wrote...

solstickan wrote...

Please stop with the pyramid quoting. If you're only replying to the latest post, then quote that one only.

There's all these controversial topics being debated here and you feel inclined to comment on the method of quoting. >.>

Nah, there is nothing anymore. We have discussed mages/chantry issues before DA2, quality of DA2, and now homosexuality.

We need to wait for DA3 I think before new topics come. Or next DLC.

[addiction21]

moilami wrote...

The thing is that it is far too complicated to mess with the right quoting in this forum. I don't go to details why it is so but there are many reasons for it. That promotes to just click and bottom post.

Took me half a second to highlight and delete everything not needed to be responded to.

On a side note of this... yes constant pyramid qouting will get a thread locked because it is considered spam.

[Tirigon]

centauri2002 wrote...

Maybe homosexuality is nature's way of controlling the population, since we are quite out of control.

Impossible. If this was true, 90% of Europeans and North Americans, and the entire rest of the world, would be homosexual.

Unless, of course, Mother Nature screwed up big time. As she always does.

[AngelicMachinery]

Seifz wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Seifz wrote...

Please stop.  You don't know what you're talking about.

Topics of interest:  evolution, natural selection, sexual selection, human sexuality, game theory, population modeling.

Yeah, lets all put a blindful to the truths all around us and pretend. I know exactly what you're talking about.

I don't even know what that means.  What are you trying to say?

Don't worry,  he tried to say "I'm right and your wrong."  Without directly saying that, it didn't turn out to well though.  

[Centauri2002]

moilami wrote...

Nah, there is nothing anymore. We have discussed mages/chantry issues before DA2, quality of DA2, and now homosexuality.

We need to wait for DA3 I think before new topics come. Or next DLC.

Even then, I'm sure it'll be the same old issues rehashed and argued in circles. Oh well, just as well I enjoy debating so much. >:3