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Seifz wrote...
Please don't hijack the term realist to describe your bigotry. If you see homosexuals as unnatural or somehow lesser than heterosexuals, you're a homophobe. That's all there is to it.
Caralampio wrote...
More like, you're bi, but don't want to admit it. People who prefer one gender, but are not totally closed to a relationship with the other, are still bi. Only they haven't acted on the potential. For the truly straight person, the possibility doesn't even exist. Unimaginable. Absolutely not. (Notice this has nothing to do with not respecting other people's choices. It's about one's own choices).
Cadaveth wrote...
I knew that this thread would decline into the typical natural vs. unnatural stuff. Way to go!
Well that may seem fair from the gay guy's point of view. However many straight men find approaches of this kind highly offensive. I think you should "evaluate the terrain" first, perhaps make some enquiries with other friends or something. I believe this is the root of the Anders problem in the game.Shawn Ogg wrote...
-People dont have a sexual-orientation-radar. If a guy tries to flirt with you is not different when you try to flirt with a girl. Just turn him down. Everyone has the right to flirt, everyone can reject a proposiont and everyone can stand being rejected. As well as you dont know if you have any chance with that hot girl on the bar until you try a guy doesnt know either if he has any chance with you. Does this mean he cant try? That wouldnt be fair dont you think?
This is a very good idea.After some thinking I do believe that the all bi thing is not the problem here. But rather how it is handle. I think it would be no problem at all if it had been done better. How? Well, the thing is it should be done in a way a straigh Hawke never get flirted by any male companion unless the companion was clearly meant to be gay/bi (Zevran) while I gay Hawke will. To achieve that there must be a way that the game recognize the player tastes before making any of the npc make a move. How? Well it would be enough to let Hawke make the first advance always.
Lord Sullivan wrote...
Seifz wrote...
Please don't hijack the term realist to describe your bigotry. If you see homosexuals as unnatural or somehow lesser than heterosexuals, you're a homophobe. That's all there is to it.
If you want to have a conversation, I'm all for it, but don't make wild accusations.
Lord Sullivan wrote...
OK, here is a fun puzzel with 3 senarios.
At the begining of times of Humans here on earth:
1- All humans both Males and females are "Heterosexuals"
2- Humans are equaly split between "Heterosexuals" and "Homosexuals"
3- All humans both Males and females are "Homosexuals"
Q: what the result of impact of each scenario on humanity?
Modifié par AngelicMachinery, 27 mars 2011 - 09:08 .
Lord Sullivan wrote...
OK, here is a fun puzzel with 3 senarios.
At the begining of times of Humans here on earth:
1- All humans both Males and females are "Heterosexuals"
2- Humans are equaly split between "Heterosexuals" and "Homosexuals"
3- All humans both Males and females are "Homosexuals"
Q: what the result of impact of each scenario on humanity?
centauri2002 wrote...
You're offering, eh? I have a 50,000 word story I need beta read. *grins*
...no? Bah, was hoping for free editing. >.>
sereture wrote...
Even though there have been some terrible grammar and spelling throughout this thread, it's just too much of a bother to play editor on every post, when it's fully understandable for (mostly) everyone anyway. We all make mistakes...
If anyone REALLY wants their own personal grammar/spelling police, I can be that for you. ;P
I'm reading it all anyway...
solstickan wrote...
Caralampio wrote...
More like, you're bi, but don't want to admit it. People who prefer one gender, but are not totally closed to a relationship with the other, are still bi. Only they haven't acted on the potential. For the truly straight person, the possibility doesn't even exist. Unimaginable. Absolutely not. (Notice this has nothing to do with not respecting other people's choices. It's about one's own choices).
I do realise I kind of sound like a closeted bi, but the thing is I'm not attracted to females in a sexual way. I don't see a pretty girl and think, "I wonder what her lipstick tastes like." (<--- woot?!) Anyways... that does not mean I am entirely averted to the idea. Just like not even Ianto Jones, with no history of gay relationships, could resist the sexappeal of Cpt. Jack Harkness (sorry if I spoilered!).
Also, read here about the Kinsey scale: http://en.wikipedia....ki/Kinsey_scale
sereture wrote...
I actually do free beta-reading for people when I have time.
But I'm not very realiable, and english isn't my first language, so you might want to find someone else...
Caralampio wrote...
Kinsey is to sex what Freud is to psychology. In both cases, they broke ground and were revolutionary, but many of their ideas are now obsolete and many of their results are considered biased.
Anyway, using Kinsey's 0= straight, 1-5= bi, 6= gay.
centauri2002 wrote...
AngelicMachinery wrote...
I love how being bi automatically makes a character more shallow.
Didn't you know there's no such thing as 'bisexual', only 'greedy'?
/sarcasm
AlanC9 wrote...
Lord Sullivan wrote...
Nor is there scientific evidence that homosexuality is natural. Observation that it exist are not scientific proof of it being natural. Logic however, dictates that it isn't. Logic dictates that it is different, a different path, not of the norm.
"Natural" = the norm? I'm nearsighted. My eyesight is unnatural?
Seriously, if we're going to be talking about what's "natural," we need a coherent definition of "natural."
centauri2002 wrote...
Ahaha, it's okay, I was joking anyway.
solstickan wrote...
Meh, I should leave now before I start making up my own theories of sexuality. G'day.
Modifié par Tirigon, 27 mars 2011 - 09:24 .
Lord Sullivan wrote...
OK, here is a fun puzzel with 3 senarios.
At the begining of times of Humans here on earth:
1- All humans both Males and females are "Heterosexuals"
2- Humans are equaly split between "Heterosexuals" and "Homosexuals"
3- All humans both Males and females are "Homosexuals"
Q: what the result of impact of each scenario on humanity?
Tirigon wrote...
/sarcasm-detector off
Greedy characters are often-times more interesting than shoddy do-gooders in a healthy straight relationship.
And you can bed them without feeling like a d!ck for f*cking someone else´s wife:devil:
sereture wrote...
So was I in the original post
I'm much more interested in joining the discussion I have been reading!
Caralampio wrote...
Well that may seem fair from the gay guy's point of view. However many straight men find approaches of this kind highly offensive. I think you should "evaluate the terrain" first, perhaps make some enquiries with other friends or something. I believe this is the root of the Anders problem in the game.Shawn Ogg wrote...
-People dont have a sexual-orientation-radar. If a guy tries to flirt with you is not different when you try to flirt with a girl. Just turn him down. Everyone has the right to flirt, everyone can reject a proposiont and everyone can stand being rejected. As well as you dont know if you have any chance with that hot girl on the bar until you try a guy doesnt know either if he has any chance with you. Does this mean he cant try? That wouldnt be fair dont you think?
Jademoon121 wrote...
/sighs
....not this again.
Homosexuality is natural. Nature encompasses anything and everything in the Universe, if something was unnatural, it wouldn't exist. Homosexuality is biological at the very least.
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