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[Jademoon121]

Tirigon wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Not exactly, as I never heard anyone throw "You Anus!!" as an insult.

Then where you live people aren´t creative at all. When I was at school, however, My friends and me managed to make Anus recognised as an insult everywhere.

I guess you wouldn´t yell "phallus" when playing the Penis game either? I doB)

LOL

[Centauri2002]

Tirigon wrote...

I guess you wouldn´t yell "phallus" when playing the Penis game either? I doB)

I'm not even going to ask... >.>

[Seifz]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

Subjected to homosexuality... Someone is forcing straights to watch gay porn or what?

If you want to play the word game then... If I'm having a conversation with a gay person, I'm not subjected to homosexuality, but a gay person makes a pass at me, I am subjected to homosexuality.

So if someone (i.e the subject user in the article)  experience is PC made a pass at in a game but a NPC of the same gender? he or she is subjected homosexuality OR Bi-sexuality.

So even if I support gays to the extent of my heterosexual limits? I cannot blame that person for complaining.

If you want to play the word game then... If I'm having a conversation with a hispanic person, I'm not subjected to interracial sex, but a hispanic person makes a pass at me, I am subjected to interracial sex.

So if someone (i.e the subject user in the article)  experience is PC made a pass at in a game but a NPC of hispanic origin? he or she is subjected to interracial sex.

So even if I support hispanics to the extent of my white limits? I cannot blame that person for complaining.

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Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?  Do you see why it's absurd and racist?  You're doing the exact same thing with homosexuals.  You're a homophobe.

So what if a guy makes a pass at you?  You can't just tell him no?  How does it hurt you in any way at all?  Gay by association?  Are you upset because someone else thought you might be gay and that offends your manhood?  Do you somehow equate flirtation with sex?

Seriously, I'm at a loss here.  I have no idea what to say to you at this point.

[Tirigon]

centauri2002 wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

I guess you wouldn´t yell "phallus" when playing the Penis game either? I doB)

I'm not even going to ask... >.>

Then I shall explain:

It´s quite easy actually.

Someone starts by whispering "penis" (or, as it may be, phallus, dong, d!ck etc....) very silently.
The next one must be a bit louder, and that goes on until noone can or dares to yell any louder. The one whose "Penis!" cry was the loudest wins.

it is actually great fun when you play it during a heavy drinking. Or at school. You just need to know which teachers will punish you for it, or the fun can be destroyed.<_<

[Tirigon]

Seifz wrote...

If you want to play the word game then... If I'm having a conversation with a hispanic person, I'm not subjected to interracial sex, but a hispanic person makes a pass at me, I am subjected to interracial sex.

So if someone (i.e the subject user in the article)  experience is PC made a pass at in a game but a NPC of hispanic origin? he or she is subjected to interracial sex.

So even if I support hispanics to the extent of my white limits? I cannot blame that person for complaining.

---

This makes so little sense I have no idea what that´s supposed to mean, even though I agree with you:blink::blink::blink:

[RetroActiv]

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Easier said than done when you're told that you're not natura/an abomination/strange/sub-human at times. 

Well don't include all heterosexuals in the "Religious Nut Band Wagon" and abnormal only mean (different, out of the ordinary, controversial).

No were does imply that is a negative thing.

I am little confused by the attitude that some people seem to have that suggesting that homosexality is percieved "identicaly"  by society and the world. Truth be told homosexuality is still a controversial issue with strong differing opinions on it. While not necesarily a bad thing homosexuality is still generally percieved as somewhat  abnormal by a large percentage of people, right or wrong.  Personally I would have enjoyed the game more if I didn't have Anders hitting on the minute i start talking to him then get an attitude when i tell him no thanks. That totally ruined him as a character for me as he rubbed  me the wrong way immediately.  Never had him in my party the entire game. After all was said and done I was glad I completely ignored him since he's a scumbag anyway. 

[Jademoon121]

Tirigon wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

I guess you wouldn´t yell "phallus" when playing the Penis game either? I doB)

I'm not even going to ask... >.>

Then I shall explain:

It´s quite easy actually.

Someone starts by whispering "penis" (or, as it may be, phallus, dong, d!ck etc....) very silently.
The next one must be a bit louder, and that goes on until noone can or dares to yell any louder. The one whose "Penis!" cry was the loudest wins.

it is actually great fun when you play it during a heavy drinking. Or at school. You just need to know which teachers will punish you for it, or the fun can be destroyed.<_<

/tears

You...are an amazing person.

[Shawn Ogg]

Tirigon wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

I guess you wouldn´t yell "phallus" when playing the Penis game either? I doB)

I'm not even going to ask... >.>

Then I shall explain:

It´s quite easy actually.

Someone starts by whispering "penis" (or, as it may be, phallus, dong, d!ck etc....) very silently.
The next one must be a bit louder, and that goes on until noone can or dares to yell any louder. The one whose "Penis!" cry was the loudest wins.

it is actually great fun when you play it during a heavy drinking. Or at school. You just need to know which teachers will punish you for it, or the fun can be destroyed.<_<

On my high-school days we just played tic-tac-toe :innocent:

[Centauri2002]

Tirigon wrote...

Then I shall explain:

It´s quite easy actually.

Someone starts by whispering "penis" (or, as it may be, phallus, dong, d!ck etc....) very silently.
The next one must be a bit louder, and that goes on until noone can or dares to yell any louder. The one whose "Penis!" cry was the loudest wins.

it is actually great fun when you play it during a heavy drinking. Or at school. You just need to know which teachers will punish you for it, or the fun can be destroyed.<_<

That definitely sounds like a boy's game. I can't say I ever came across that whilst I was at school though. Guess I was lucky.

[sereture]

RetroActiv wrote...

I am little confused by the attitude that some people seem to have that suggesting that homosexality is percieved "identicaly"  by society and the world. Truth be told homosexuality is still a controversial issue with strong differing opinions on it. While not necesarily a bad thing homosexuality is still generally percieved as somewhat  abnormal by a large percentage of people, right or wrong.  Personally I would have enjoyed the game more if I didn't have Anders hitting on the minute i start talking to him then get an attitude when i tell him no thanks. That totally ruined him as a character for me as he rubbed  me the wrong way immediately.  Never had him in my party the entire game. After all was said and done I was glad I completely ignored him since he's a scumbag anyway. 

I am not entirely sure where you are going with this?

[Tirigon]

Jademoon121 wrote...

/tears

You...are an amazing person.

I shall just ignore the irony and feel very great now. Hawke-y awesome, in fact.

centauri2002 wrote...

That definitely sounds like a
boy's game. I can't say I ever came across that whilst I was at school
though. Guess I was lucky.

I guess it´s a very special thing. One needs to be a special kind of awesome to play it. But women could very well join in, I don´t see how that would be a problem...

Modifié par Tirigon, 27 mars 2011 - 11:29 .

[Siegdrifa]

Sorry OP but DG explain perfectly why they didn't make what you suggested.

Stating that sexual oriantation is part of a character, i wouldn't says it's wrong, but i don't give a damn about it.

Look around you in your real life, there is lot of people you know and get have a grasp on their personnality, you don't know their sexual life, but you still find a personnaly in them without knowing that.

That's why i don't care about sexual oriantation in character's game.
And it's not like the character are hiting at you all the time, a simpler answer at the begining and they won't bother you again, work's for me.

[Seifz]

moilami wrote...

Oh, in Finland homosexuals can marry, but not in a church. They do it in one state department. Those who do not belong to church do it in the same department. Both groups then get benefits of marriage like they would had been married by church.

In 5 of our states and in our capital (Washington D.C.), any two people who have reached the age of majority (18) can marry and they all have the same rights.  Some churches here also allow homosexual marriages, but of course it depends on which sect of which religion they practice.  Everyone has the right to marry through the state instead of through religious ceremony, of course.  If I were to marry, I would not choose a religious ceremony because I am an atheist.

Not long time ago one magazine hired a new chief journalist, who happened to be homosexual, and then fired her because of that (never though admitted homosexuality was the reason). She sued and won and got tons of money.

Some of our states still don't protect sexual orientation, but many do and I believe that the federal government does too.

Adaptation etc. is a little bit complicated thing since it affects third party, so to say. A child. A child can be bullied a lot by other kids if he have homosexual parents. However kids can be bullied by other kids for whatever reason or no reason at all, so it hardly counts.

The argument often put forth here is that a child needs a mom and a dad and that anything else is subpar and will result in the child having issues later in life.  Of course, we let single parents adopt.  We also let unmarried people, abusive people, drug addicts, and just about anyone else have children.  Kids will pick on each other for something or other even when they all have more "traditional" parents, so you're right that it doesn't matter.  Personally, I'd rather let a loving gay couple adopt a child than have them grow up with no parents at all in a foster care program or an orphanage.

Sorry to say this, and even more so because this is no sarcasm, but your country sucks.

Nah, this country doesn't suck.  We've got some work to do on the equality and human rights front, we have some serious gun control problems, and we need to stop electing war-mongers to lead us, but overall we're not so bad.  Most of us are actually pretty decent, peaceful people!  Promise!

[Jademoon121]

centauri2002 wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

Then I shall explain:

It´s quite easy actually.

Someone starts by whispering "penis" (or, as it may be, phallus, dong, d!ck etc....) very silently.
The next one must be a bit louder, and that goes on until noone can or dares to yell any louder. The one whose "Penis!" cry was the loudest wins.

it is actually great fun when you play it during a heavy drinking. Or at school. You just need to know which teachers will punish you for it, or the fun can be destroyed.<_<

That definitely sounds like a boy's game. I can't say I ever came across that whilst I was at school though. Guess I was lucky.

Oh yeah. I never played it, but a lot of my friends did. We'd get stared at so much :innocent:

[Aniki_21]

Seifz wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Cadaveth wrote...

Subjected to homosexuality... Someone is forcing straights to watch gay porn or what?

If you want to play the word game then... If I'm having a conversation with a gay person, I'm not subjected to homosexuality, but a gay person makes a pass at me, I am subjected to homosexuality.

So if someone (i.e the subject user in the article)  experience is PC made a pass at in a game but a NPC of the same gender? he or she is subjected homosexuality OR Bi-sexuality.

So even if I support gays to the extent of my heterosexual limits? I cannot blame that person for complaining.

If you want to play the word game then... If I'm having a conversation with a hispanic person, I'm not subjected to interracial sex, but a hispanic person makes a pass at me, I am subjected to interracial sex.

So if someone (i.e the subject user in the article)  experience is PC made a pass at in a game but a NPC of hispanic origin? he or she is subjected to interracial sex.

So even if I support hispanics to the extent of my white limits? I cannot blame that person for complaining.

---

Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?  Do you see why it's absurd and racist?  You're doing the exact same thing with homosexuals.  You're a homophobe.

So what if a guy makes a pass at you?  You can't just tell him no?  How does it hurt you in any way at all?  Gay by association?  Are you upset because someone else thought you might be gay and that offends your manhood?  Do you somehow equate flirtation with sex?

Seriously, I'm at a loss here.  I have no idea what to say to you at this point.

Meh! I don't really see how being put off by someone of the wrong gender making advances towards you equates to being put off by somone soley based on skin color. If the gender is correct skin color should be a non issue. 

[Tirigon]

Jademoon121 wrote...

Oh yeah. I never played it, but a lot of my friends did. We'd get stared at so much :innocent:

That is part of the fun, I always thought. Besides, I´m used to getting stared at for much less. Playing THE GAME gave people an excuse, at least.

[moilami]

Seifz wrote...


Marriage needs to divorce from religion.  If it's going to provide legal benefits, then it needs to be a legal arrangement.  You're free to have your fancy religious ceremonies to celebrate.

Before that you wrote:

Society needs to drop that mentality.  It's the same mentality that we had about foreigners, black people, and any number of other minorities in the past.  It's not productive and it's hurtful to those in the minority.

And

Until we reach the point where "a person is a person", we'll have to get through all of these "I'm not homophobic, but..." and "I'm not racist, but..." phases.  Gives us something to do when we're bored, I guess!

You know kid, I haven't ever belonged to the church as opposite to maybe 90% percent of Finnish population. Novadays it is maybe less. I also don't believe in any god except Fortuna, and haven't ever believed. I am not proud of that. It is just what I am.

I see very much hypocricy, hate, narrow mindedness, arrogance, and ignorance in your posting. I know Christians and some of them are very good people.

[Seifz]

Tirigon wrote...

Seifz wrote...

If you want to play the word game then... If I'm having a conversation with a hispanic person, I'm not subjected to interracial sex, but a hispanic person makes a pass at me, I am subjected to interracial sex.

So if someone (i.e the subject user in the article)  experience is PC made a pass at in a game but a NPC of hispanic origin? he or she is subjected to interracial sex.

So even if I support hispanics to the extent of my white limits? I cannot blame that person for complaining.

---

This makes so little sense I have no idea what that´s supposed to mean, even though I agree with you:blink::blink::blink:

Precisely!  It's ridiculous, isn't it?  All I did was replace "gay" with "hispanic" and now it sounds so absurd that nobody could defend it without sounding like a racist ass.  Since sexual orientation is no more a choice than heritage or skin color, the same should be true for the original version.  Right?

I've said it all along.  If we have a "no gay" toggle then we need to have a "no darkies" toggle, a "no redheads" toggle, and a "no dwarves" toggle.  Especially a "no dwarves" toggle!

And why stop with sexual preference?  We can determine our entire character with nothing but toggles and sliders.  It'll be the best RPG ever!  Right!?

[Centauri2002]

Tirigon wrote...

I guess it´s a very special thing. One needs to be a special kind of awesome to play it. But women could very well join in, I don´t see how that would be a problem...

Oh I don't doubt it. Heck, I'm even sure some of my friends would have a giggle with it and they're adult women. But, it does occur to me that boys are more inclined to shout about that particular part of their anatomy. It's almost like a rite of passage. 

[sereture]

Aniki_21 wrote...

Meh! I don't really see how being put off by someone of the wrong gender making advances towards you equates to being put off by somone soley based on skin color. If the gender is correct skin color should be a non issue. 

Because the person didn't know they were the wrong gender.

I see nothing wrong with not liking advances from people you are not attracted to, as long as it is all of them, not just one kind.

But you should be civil about it.

[Lord Sullivan]

Seifz wrote...

If you want to play the word game then... If I'm having a conversation with a hispanic person, I'm not subjected to interracial sex, but a hispanic person makes a pass at me, I am subjected to interracial sex.

So if someone (i.e the subject user in the article)  experience is PC made a pass at in a game but a NPC of hispanic origin? he or she is subjected to interracial sex.

So even if I support hispanics to the extent of my white limits? I cannot blame that person for complaining.

---

Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?  Do you see why it's absurd and racist?  You're doing the exact same thing with homosexuals.  You're a homophobe.

So what if a guy makes a pass at you?  You can't just tell him no?  How does it hurt you in any way at all?  Gay by association?  Are you upset because someone else thought you might be gay and that offends your manhood?  Do you somehow equate flirtation with sex?

Seriously, I'm at a loss here.  I have no idea what to say to you at this point.

Erm, equating sexual orientation with a human race? makes a whole lot of sence!... NOT!

So what you're suggesting is that Heterosexuals are not allowed to not agree with other sexual orientations?

[RetroActiv]

sereture wrote...

RetroActiv wrote...

I am little confused by the attitude that some people seem to have that suggesting that homosexality is percieved "identicaly"  by society and the world. Truth be told homosexuality is still a controversial issue with strong differing opinions on it. While not necesarily a bad thing homosexuality is still generally percieved as somewhat  abnormal by a large percentage of people, right or wrong.  Personally I would have enjoyed the game more if I didn't have Anders hitting on the minute i start talking to him then get an attitude when i tell him no thanks. That totally ruined him as a character for me as he rubbed  me the wrong way immediately.  Never had him in my party the entire game. After all was said and done I was glad I completely ignored him since he's a scumbag anyway. 

I am not entirely sure where you are going with this?

Didn't realize I was  supposed to go anywhere else with that. My thoughts on the issue were largely summed up.

[Russalka]

You cannot disagree with a sexual orientation. It would be like disagreeing with heterosexuality, different skin colours or a whole gender.

Modifié par Russalka, 27 mars 2011 - 11:38 .

[Jademoon121]

Tirigon wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

Oh yeah. I never played it, but a lot of my friends did. We'd get stared at so much :innocent:

That is part of the fun, I always thought. Besides, I´m used to getting stared at for much less. Playing THE GAME gave people an excuse, at least.

I lost 
Anywas....YES! I tend to not draw attention though, which is odd considering I love to weird people out sometimes. I'm a spot of dark green, blue, and brown in a sea of black and red leather and clothing, hair died colors you couldn't even imagine and peircings that love to play electric guitar at lunch and scream penis every minute. I love my friends 

[Seifz]

moilami wrote...

Seifz wrote...


Marriage needs to divorce from religion.  If it's going to provide legal benefits, then it needs to be a legal arrangement.  You're free to have your fancy religious ceremonies to celebrate.

Before that you wrote:

Society needs to drop that mentality.  It's the same mentality that we had about foreigners, black people, and any number of other minorities in the past.  It's not productive and it's hurtful to those in the minority.

And

Until we reach the point where "a person is a person", we'll have to get through all of these "I'm not homophobic, but..." and "I'm not racist, but..." phases.  Gives us something to do when we're bored, I guess!

You know kid, I haven't ever belonged to the church as opposite to maybe 90% percent of Finnish population. Novadays it is maybe less. I also don't believe in any god except Fortuna, and haven't ever believed. I am not proud of that. It is just what I am.

I see very much hypocricy, hate, narrow mindedness, arrogance, and ignorance in your posting. I know Christians and some of them are very good people.

I have no hatred for religious people.  I do have problems with the concept of organized religion and I especially have problems with religious leaders who lobby our government to make laws that support their religious beliefs to the exclusion of others.  In this country, the movement against gay marriage is almost entirely funded by organized religions.

EDIT:  For full disclosure, I was raised Christian by Christian parents, but I never believed in any gods or other myths.  That said, I'm from the United States.  Nearly everyone here is of one religion or another and I've been exposed to a great number of those religions.  Of course most of them are good people.  I said as much in a previous post.  I don't hate anyone because they're Christian.

But understand that religion, unlike sexual orientation, is a choice.

Modifié par Seifz, 27 mars 2011 - 11:43 .