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[v_ware]

Mooh Bear wrote...

Monsteroids wrote...

I propose a 'WASP' mode. Omits gays, jews, catholics, poor people, swearing, and anyone who fails the paper bag test.

I'm gonna regret this, what is the paper bag test?

If your skin is darker then the brown paper bag, your black, if your skin is lighter then the paper bag, you're white. Disgusting test. Used in the 1900's in good oll US of A.

[City6]

Mooh Bear wrote...

Monsteroids wrote...

I propose a 'WASP' mode. Omits gays, jews, catholics, poor people, swearing, and anyone who fails the paper bag test.

I'm gonna regret this, what is the paper bag test?

Think "darker than a...".

It was very real at one point in time.

[Mr.House]

ReconTeam wrote...

City6 wrote...
You haven't grasped the concept of "privilege". I recommend you stop posting, sti down and think about it properly, then start posting again. You're not grasping the basic arguements being discussed here.

No you need to sit back, look around in the culture you've grown up in, and then get back to me about "privilege". You think Bioware owes you such content when the real world doesn't work that way. Nobody owes you, or owes me anything.

If none of your psot proved it, this proves it. You are a homophobe. You where probaly one of those bully who picked on gay people in high school.

[The Angry One]

ReconTeam wrote...

Well then go ahead and argue you don't want that. Of course considering a majority of players play as a Male Hawke there isn't much of an argument there.

I'm using the same personal self-entitlement logic you are using.
And more players play FemHawke than you evidentally think.. or are you going to yell 5% at me again.

Modifié par The Angry One, 24 mars 2011 - 09:45 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Galad22 wrote...
You seem to assume only gay and bi people want these on bioware games. You would be wrong. Most people just aren't bothered with this anymore.

I mean it's year 2011, not 1970.

Typically the only straight people I see who want Bioware to add such stuff are suffering from a severe case of white male guilt. And yes, if you add 41 to 1970 you get 2011. Saying "it is ____ not ____" doesn't mean anything. I'm against it because I am starting to see it negatively effect the quality of their games.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

Genetically, Jewish people tend to have descended from the ancients of Israel, the historical diaspora rendered the Jewish nation non-existent until modern-day Israel. The Israelites are genetically different from other humans, due to millenia of traditions and cultural religion.

[rinoe]

JohnEpler wrote...

I will point out that expecting us to change how we make our games because certain optional aspects of them make people uncomfortable is likely destined for disappointment. Characters are written or designed based on what the writers feel is best for those characters, and that's not going to change.

And let's also keep in mind that 'rivalry' is not a punishment. I'd wager that the majority of people on this planet have either been disappointed or disappointed someone else because advances were rejected. The character in question will quickly get over it, and you can still have them as a friendship.

The rivalry is a new and great idea. I like it a lot. It is good when someone do not agree with the decision I made, still stay with me. I like the different reactions on the friendship and rivarly path. That was one of the best new thing. What I can say - nice work. And great start for sure.

If you put more story to act 3 and I will love you. I was unplesently suprised, when stories of my companions end so...quick. After great act 2 that was no nice:)))) Make a DLC at least...

[The Angry One]

ReconTeam wrote...

Typically the only straight people I see who want Bioware to add such stuff are suffering from a severe case of white male guilt. And yes, if you add 41 to 1970 you get 2011. Saying "it is ____ not ____" doesn't mean anything. I'm against it because I am starting to see it negatively effect the quality of their games.

Ha! If it's "affecting quality" then how would a "no homosexuality" option in the menu change that!
You are now just lying and using double-talk to justify your exceptionally weak position.

[Captain Jazz]

City6 wrote...

In real life I'm also not - SHOCK HORROR - a wizard.

...what?
YOU LIED TO ME!!

[Inquisitor Recon]

Mr.House wrote...
If none of your psot proved it, this proves it. You are a homophobe. You where probaly one of those bully who picked on gay people in high school.

Frankly, I don't care what you imagine me to be in real life. I consider myself to be an accepting person but I will look out for my interests before yours here.

[Mr.House]

ReconTeam wrote...
Typically the only straight people I see who want Bioware to add such stuff are suffering from a severe case of white male guilt. And yes, if you add 41 to 1970 you get 2011. Saying "it is ____ not ____" doesn't mean anything. I'm against it because I am starting to see it negatively effect the quality of their games.

Everyone being bi has negative effects on the game? How?It adds to the game, you would see that if you got off your homophobe horse.

[Galad22]

ReconTeam wrote...

Typically the only straight people I see who want Bioware to add such stuff are suffering from a severe case of white male guilt. And yes, if you add 41 to 1970 you get 2011. Saying "it is ____ not ____" doesn't mean anything. I'm against it because I am starting to see it negatively effect the quality of their games.

Well I support this, and I have no white male guilt. What does that even mean? American thing?

And yes it does mean something, it means world has moved on, perhaps some people should follow.

There are many things that affected DA2 quality negatively, this is not one of them.

[The Angry One]

ReconTeam wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
If none of your psot proved it, this proves it. You are a homophobe. You where probaly one of those bully who picked on gay people in high school.

Frankly, I don't care what you imagine me to be in real life. I consider myself to be an accepting person but I will look out for my interests before yours here.

If you are not, in fact, prejudiced against homosexuals and bisexuals, why do you want an option to erase them from existence in your game?

[Artoz96]

Mooh Bear wrote...

Artoz96 wrote...

I really dont get it, why u make people eat gay content if they don't want it than he is bad/evil/etc.

Do you understand that it is theirs right, like it your right to demand to include gay content.

Some people (and I) just want a button to switch off gay content for their game. Ok, I understand that nobody will do it, cause a lot of people will start to cry about intolerance. Just dont script npc to propose gay sex. I dont want it at all. And it is my right.

You mean, like you think it is your right to not have to deal with black, poor or disabled people because they make you uncomfortable/inconvenience you? Because that's exactly what you're saying. Unless, for some reasons, homosexuals are special?

I know, you wouldn's undertand but I will try... You see, it is like you ask me if I think I have a right to complain about things I dont want. Why you always try to chance topic and talk about black, poor etc. I have seen a lot of times that people dont like to deal with poor people (homeless), but if you ask them "are u intollerate to poor peopele" they will say "of course not" and it is a lie. By talking about tolerance you make people lie. They cant say I dont want to deal with gay people because it is intolerate.

But why it is tolerate to say that these people are intolerate? How is that theirs right to not deal with people they dont like intollerate? They dont insult gay, they dont hit them, they just go away!

So no, I dont have problems with black poor people. And dont have problems with gay, until they try to flirt to me, Thats all.

[Inquisitor Recon]

The Angry One wrote...
Ha! If it's "affecting quality" then how would a "no homosexuality" option in the menu change that!

Because I don't have to deal with this tacked on little "feature" people like you demanded. I don't a politically correct romance simulator for a game.

[demodar]

And if you do not like the way the game is why are you still playing it?
If i may ask if it offends you so much just close it maybe?
When you are given pizza with cheese and you don't like the cheese you don't eat it

[v_ware]

ReconTeam wrote...

Galad22 wrote...
You seem to assume only gay and bi people want these on bioware games. You would be wrong. Most people just aren't bothered with this anymore.

I mean it's year 2011, not 1970.

Typically the only straight people I see who want Bioware to add such stuff are suffering from a severe case of white male guilt. And yes, if you add 41 to 1970 you get 2011. Saying "it is ____ not ____" doesn't mean anything. I'm against it because I am starting to see it negatively effect the quality of their games.

So a white male can only have a positive attitude towards gays if you have white male guilt for being racists to black people in the past? I thought you said the comparison between gays and blacks was a false one.

You are starting to be less and less coherent. (I was going to say make sense, but you didn't make that from the start.) I see cracks in your facade.

[StowyMcStowstow]

Ms. Lovey Dovey wrote...

When it comes down to it......anyone who wants a "No homosexual" option is straight up homophobic. End of question.

Or maybe they don't want guys to hit on them? Because they're straight? I personally don't care, I just shut Anders down right away.

But why must Anders hit on Hawke the first chance he gets? Why do none of the female companions? You have to work for ALL of the other romances, but Anders just throws himself at you. Sexuality could factor into characterization, but that might be too restrictive. Maybe let the player choose their sexuality beforehand? Or maybe don't have the characters throw themselves at the player. That might work.

This whole thing started because Anders hits on you right away, while you have to actually try to get with anyone else. One character hits on the player, and people are up in arms. It isn't that big of a deal. Hell, you can pick one of the heart options, and not pick any after that. It isn't that hard. I didin't even realize Anders had hit on me until my second playthrough. 

[yuncas]

Broken english is an awesome read.

[Mr.House]

ReconTeam wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
If none of your psot proved it, this proves it. You are a homophobe. You where probaly one of those bully who picked on gay people in high school.

Frankly, I don't care what you imagine me to be in real life. I consider myself to be an accepting person but I will look out for my interests before yours here.

Uh huh, seeing as you want the options to be gone from the game, you're not an "accepting" person, but hey! If that makes you sleep at night the be my guest. Enjoy thinking we are ruining there games

Modifié par Mr.House, 24 mars 2011 - 09:52 .

[Wulfram]

JohnEpler wrote...

And let's also keep in mind that 'rivalry' is not a punishment. I'd wager that the majority of people on this planet have either been disappointed or disappointed someone else because advances were rejected. The character in question will quickly get over it, and you can still have them as a friendship.

If you're on the friendship path then rivalry is a punishment.  And 15 is a pretty big jump

[JerHopp]

Why are the characters being labeled as ******,-hetero, or
bi-sexual?

I mean, you only experience what you want to experience in
your playthrough right? The characters are only ‘sexual’ if you approach them
in a specific way: you can create your
own preference[/b] here.

That is part of the story of Dragon Age 2: you can create[/b] your own relationship with the
characters within your own playthrough. That is your choice[/b]….

[Sharn01]

Mr.House wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...

City6 wrote...
You haven't grasped the concept of "privilege". I recommend you stop posting, sti down and think about it properly, then start posting again. You're not grasping the basic arguements being discussed here.

No you need to sit back, look around in the culture you've grown up in, and then get back to me about "privilege". You think Bioware owes you such content when the real world doesn't work that way. Nobody owes you, or owes me anything.

If none of your psot proved it, this proves it. You are a homophobe. You where probaly one of those bully who picked on gay people in high school.

I was one of the bullies that picked on gay kids in highschool, peer pressure and me being a dumb kid who didnt know any better, should have known better yes, hence the dumb part.  That was over 20 years ago, I grew up, and learned what real life was actually like and regret many of the decisions I made in the past.  Maybe he is still young, but this isnt the 80's any more, and adults today who have this kind of attitude are very strange to me. 

[Inquisitor Recon]

The Angry One wrote...
If you are not, in fact, prejudiced against homosexuals and bisexuals, why do you want an option to erase them from existence in your game?

Same reason you may want the option to sleep with whomever you choose. Why is it wrong for me to customize my playing experience yet fine for you to?

[The Angry One]

ReconTeam wrote...

The Angry One wrote...
Ha! If it's "affecting quality" then how would a "no homosexuality" option in the menu change that!

Because I don't have to deal with this tacked on little "feature" people like you demanded. I don't a politically correct romance simulator for a game.

Deal with it?
Rebuff Anders.
Move on.
You have yet to explain how you have to "deal with it" any further than that.

You want to erase the idea.
That is what makes you a bigot.

ReconTeam wrote...

The Angry One wrote...
If you
are not, in fact, prejudiced against homosexuals and bisexuals, why do
you want an option to erase them from existence in your game?

Same
reason you may want the option to sleep with whomever you choose. Why
is it wrong for me to customize my playing experience yet fine for you
to?

Because you can.

You.
Can.
Say.
No.

Modifié par The Angry One, 24 mars 2011 - 09:52 .