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centauri2002 wrote...

Oh I don't doubt it. Heck, I'm even sure some of my friends would have a giggle with it and they're adult women. But, it does occur to me that boys are more inclined to shout about that particular part of their anatomy. It's almost like a rite of passage. ;)


´Tis true enough. Boys do not have a chance to talk about their period and stuff, and can´t talk about boys on the toilet without seeming to be gay (what many do not like.....) , so instead we talk about the size of our manhood.
Having a big dong is like having a Ferrarri for your social status, only much cheaper, and about as rare to have.:devil::devil:

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centauri2002 wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

I guess it´s a very special thing. One needs to be a special kind of awesome to play it. But women could very well join in, I don´t see how that would be a problem...


Oh I don't doubt it. Heck, I'm even sure some of my friends would have a giggle with it and they're adult women. But, it does occur to me that boys are more inclined to shout about that particular part of their anatomy. It's almost like a rite of passage. ;)


They also draw phallus symbols EVERYWHERE where I'm from. I'm a bi guy and I don't even do that.
I tend question the sexuality at my school...especially since I'm the only bisexer in a school of 2,000.

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Jademoon121 wrote...

I lost :pinched:


Oh for...!!!!

So did I. <_<

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Erm, equating sexual orientation with a human race? makes a whole lot of sence!... NOT!


First of all, "hispanic" is not a race of people.  Second, you're still working with an us or them mentality.  A hispanic woman is a person.  It doesn't matter that she's hispanic.  She didn't choose her origins, her parents, her nationality, or her skin color.

Likewise, homosexuals do not choose their sexual orientation.

So what you're suggesting is that Heterosexuals are not allowed to not agree with other sexual orientations?


Yes.  Obviously.

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Lord Sullivan wrote...

Erm, equating sexual orientation with a human race? makes a whole lot of sence!... NOT!

So what you're suggesting is that Heterosexuals are not allowed to not agree with other sexual orientations?




Agreement? Does it make sense if I say I dont agree with blonde people?

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Seifz wrote...

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If you want to play the word game then... If I'm having a conversation with a hispanic person, I'm not subjected to interracial sex, but a hispanic person makes a pass at me, I am subjected to interracial sex.

So if someone (i.e the subject user in the article)  experience is PC made a pass at in a game but a NPC of hispanic origin? he or she is subjected to interracial sex.

So even if I support hispanics to the extent of my white limits? I cannot blame that person for complaining.

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This makes so little sense I have no idea what that´s supposed to mean, even though I agree with you:blink::blink::blink::blink::blink:


Precisely!  It's ridiculous, isn't it?  All I did was replace "gay" with "hispanic" and now it sounds so absurd that nobody could defend it without sounding like a racist ass.  Since sexual orientation is no more a choice than heritage or skin color, the same should be true for the original version.  Right?

I've said it all along.  If we have a "no gay" toggle then we need to have a "no darkies" toggle, a "no redheads" toggle, and a "no dwarves" toggle.  Especially a "no dwarves" toggle!

And why stop with sexual preference?  We can determine our entire character with nothing but toggles and sliders.  It'll be the best RPG ever!  Right!?


I did play that game once, but my character died of stress induced cancer at the age of 13... true story.

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Meh! I don't really see how being put off by someone of the wrong gender making advances towards you equates to being put off by somone soley based on skin color. If the gender is correct skin color should be a non issue. 


Because the person didn't know they were the wrong gender.

I see nothing wrong with not liking advances from people you are not attracted to, as long as it is all of them, not just one kind.

But you should be civil about it.


How would you not know if the person is the wrong gender? It's pretty easy if you have eyes. lol

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They also draw phallus symbols EVERYWHERE where I'm from. I'm a bi guy and I don't even do that.
I tend question the sexuality at my school...especially since I'm the only bisexer in a school of 2,000.


It does seem a strange preoccupation to have if you've no interest in the same sex. >.>

You're the only one? Do you have a difficult time then? D:

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You cannot disagree with a sexual orientation. It would be like disagreeing with heterosexuality, different skin colours or a whole gender.


Well how can a person of a certain sexual orientation agree with another, if that were the case, we'd all be Bi-Sexual.

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Jademoon121 wrote...

They also draw phallus symbols EVERYWHERE where I'm from. I'm a bi guy and I don't even do that.
I tend question the sexuality at my school...especially since I'm the only bisexer in a school of 2,000.


As far as you know... :bandit::bandit:

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Shawn Ogg wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Erm, equating sexual orientation with a human race? makes a whole lot of sence!... NOT!

So what you're suggesting is that Heterosexuals are not allowed to not agree with other sexual orientations?




Agreement? Does it make sense if I say I dont agree with blonde people?


Given the fact that most "Blonds" are fake Blonds... then I'd say yes :P

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The argument often put forth here is that a child needs a mom and a dad and that anything else is subpar and will result in the child having issues later in life.  Of course, we let single parents adopt.  We also let unmarried people, abusive people, drug addicts, and just about anyone else have children.  Kids will pick on each other for something or other even when they all have more "traditional" parents, so you're right that it doesn't matter.  Personally, I'd rather let a loving gay couple adopt a child than have them grow up with no parents at all in a foster care program or an orphanage.


You expressed homosexuals to be super humans and better than heteros. That is not true. Homosexuals are people. They can be or can become abusive in very same way as heteros can. That's why I did not become to speculate about the quality of the parents in the first place.

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[quote]Shawn Ogg wrote...


Agreement? Does it make sense if I say I dont agree with blonde people?

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Of course. One should never agree with blondes, and i´m saying that as someone who is widely considered to be blonde myself....








[quote]Jademoon121 wrote...

[quote]centauri200

They also draw phallus symbols EVERYWHERE where I'm from. I'm a bi guy and I don't even do that.
I tend question the sexuality at my school...especially since I'm the only bisexer in a school of 2,000.

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Yes, indeed. i used to have pictures of phalli on my chucks, as my friends had drawn them  there. I kept saying it´s original size just to annoy them:devil:

Of course, eventually my chucks became too dirty and destroyed even for me to wear, so I got new ones and thus i am lacking of phalli on my feet.

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Lord Sullivan wrote...

Erm, equating sexual orientation with a human race? makes a whole lot of sence!... NOT!

So what you're suggesting is that Heterosexuals are not allowed to not agree with other sexual orientations?


I feel the need to point out that humanity is a single race here. 

Oh, and I'll also chime in with disagreeing with a particularly sexuality being silly. I don't disagree with heterosexuality, it's just not what I am. That's all there is to it. 

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How would you not know if the person is the wrong gender? It's pretty easy if you have eyes. lol


Sorry, but I found that comment rather insulting.

There are lot of different sexualities, so you can not asume the person you talk with shares your.

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Shawn Ogg wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Erm, equating sexual orientation with a human race? makes a whole lot of sence!... NOT!

So what you're suggesting is that Heterosexuals are not allowed to not agree with other sexual orientations?




Agreement? Does it make sense if I say I dont agree with blonde people?


I've got nothing against blonde people myself, but I just can't stand it when they try to flirt with me. I mean, hell, isn't it blatantly obvious that I'm into brunettes? Shove off angel hair!

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centauri2002 wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

They also draw phallus symbols EVERYWHERE where I'm from. I'm a bi guy and I don't even do that.
I tend question the sexuality at my school...especially since I'm the only bisexer in a school of 2,000.


It does seem a strange preoccupation to have if you've no interest in the same sex. >.>

You're the only one? Do you have a difficult time then? D:


Yeah, especially when you walk into a bathroom stall with them covering the entire wall or eating at a table with one carved into the wood. I really think that some poor sods aren't being truthful....but until then, I'm the only OPEN bisexual guy I know, and I don't really get a hard time from it which is just as odd. 

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You expressed homosexuals to be super humans and better than heteros. That is not true. Homosexuals are people. They can be or can become abusive in very same way as heteros can. That's why I did not become to speculate about the quality of the parents in the first place.


I never said that.  Ever.  You're just causing trouble, now.

My point was that it's more socially acceptable to let abusive people have children than to let a healthy, loving gay couple adopt a child and that's a problem.

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Shawn Ogg wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

They also draw phallus symbols EVERYWHERE where I'm from. I'm a bi guy and I don't even do that.
I tend question the sexuality at my school...especially since I'm the only bisexer in a school of 2,000.


As far as you know... :bandit::bandit:


"Know" being the keyword:whistle:

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Seifz wrote...

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Seifz wrote...


Marriage needs to divorce from religion.  If it's going to provide legal benefits, then it needs to be a legal arrangement.  You're free to have your fancy religious ceremonies to celebrate.

Before that you wrote:

Society needs to drop that mentality.  It's the same mentality that we had about foreigners, black people, and any number of other minorities in the past.  It's not productive and it's hurtful to those in the minority.

And

Until we reach the point where "a person is a person", we'll have to get through all of these "I'm not homophobic, but..." and "I'm not racist, but..." phases.  Gives us something to do when we're bored, I guess!


You know kid, I haven't ever belonged to the church as opposite to maybe 90% percent of Finnish population. Novadays it is maybe less. I also don't believe in any god except Fortuna, and haven't ever believed. I am not proud of that. It is just what I am.

I see very much hypocricy, hate, narrow mindedness, arrogance, and ignorance in your posting. I know Christians and some of them are very good people.


I have no hatred for religious people.  I do have problems with the concept of organized religion and I especially have problems with religious leaders who lobby our government to make laws that support their religious beliefs to the exclusion of others.  In this country, the movement against gay marriage is almost entirely funded by organized religions.

EDIT:  For full disclosure, I was raised Christian by Christian parents, but I never believed in any gods or other myths.  That said, I'm from the United States.  Nearly everyone here is of one religion or another and I've been exposed to a great number of those religions.  Of course most of them are good people.  I said as much in a previous post.  I don't hate anyone because they're Christian.

But understand that religion, unlike sexual orientation, is a choice.


Ok, I see you are level headed then and understand stuff.

I though disagree with you regarding religion. For majority it is clearly a choise but there is a minority of true believers or something of which I am quite convinced they don't chose to believe that much but just irrationally believe.

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Seifz wrote...

moilami wrote...

You expressed homosexuals to be super humans and better than heteros. That is not true. Homosexuals are people. They can be or can become abusive in very same way as heteros can. That's why I did not become to speculate about the quality of the parents in the first place.


I never said that.  Ever.  You're just causing trouble, now.

My point was that it's more socially acceptable to let abusive people have children than to let a healthy, loving gay couple adopt a child and that's a problem.


I certainly cause "trouble" when things begin to go too negative out of realities propagandist speech.

Modifié par moilami, 27 mars 2011 - 11:51 .


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Lord Sullivan wrote...

Russalka wrote...

You cannot disagree with a sexual orientation. It would be like disagreeing with heterosexuality, different skin colours or a whole gender.


Well how can a person of a certain sexual orientation agree with another, if that were the case, we'd all be Bi-Sexual.



This doesn't make sense at all.  Sure,  you can agree on not having sex with men, or women,  or what have you... but I don't see how that suggests you can't accept people who sleep with a gender outside of your own prefernce.  It baffles the mind.

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centauri2002 wrote...

Lord Sullivan wrote...

Erm, equating sexual orientation with a human race? makes a whole lot of sence!... NOT!

So what you're suggesting is that Heterosexuals are not allowed to not agree with other sexual orientations?


I feel the need to point out that humanity is a single race here. 

Oh, and I'll also chime in with disagreeing with a particularly sexuality being silly. I don't disagree with heterosexuality, it's just not what I am. That's all there is to it. 


Well then, we're getting somewhere since the same is true both ways, then why insist on gay content in a game
when apparently heterosexuals have no right to experience the game without? else they have everyright to get flame if they ask for that option? (according to alot of gays since the begining of the thread).

Btw, if I recall the article of the OP is not really the ultimatum to scratch gay content completly out and neither is it what I'm suggesting.

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moilami wrote...

I though disagree with you regarding religion. For majority it is clearly a choise but there is a minority of true believers or something of which I am quite convinced they don't chose to believe that much but just irrationally believe.


Right. There's the issue of indoctrination, such as when a parent teaches a child to accept something as unquestionable truth. To them, questioning their religion would be like questioning that their hearts beat.