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ziloe wrote...

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You need your own thread to respond? Why not just respond on the thread in question?


This has already been answered.

Poorly.  Attention seeking, in other words.

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who? what? nm

I like DA2

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Parrk wrote...

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You need your own thread to respond? Why not just respond on the thread in question?


No, this is a theme thread where (from what I've seen thus far) the author plans to attempt some sort of avante garde strategy gaming where he refuses to agree with respondents on how some basic thing (the definition of the word "fact" and what it entails) should be treated in the thread.

It is tres-leet metagaming with a whiny forum twist!


Oh yes, because having my own opinion and stating people should have higher standards is totally being whiny! 

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If you did not enjoy the game, that's your issue.

 
Or it could be an issue with the game not being good.

If you were swayed by pre-release hype, that's your doing.


No. That would be the doing of the marketing department and dev team who made promises and didn't come close to delivering. 

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Everwarden, how about you go have a nice cold shower now, and come back once you're sobered up?


If I'm so clearly wrong, address the arguments. If I'm drunk it should be really, really easy. Insulting me rather than making a case for your own position is obvious deflection, and evidence that you can't defend your stance. 


Tearing your position apart won't exactly be hard with almost the entirety of two games to back up my arguments. Problem is, you're not here to get into debate (and infact have proven to leave other threads the very second you're confronted with an argument). You're here to spout insults, and celebrate your rage. 
I'm perfectly willing to tear your position down again, like I have the same very position in about five different threads today alone. But I won't waste the effort, as long as you're clearly beyond the reach of words.
Dude listen to yourself, just count the insults you've been vomiting out on this page alone. And then have a cold shower, and come back once you're interested in any form of debate. Don't worry, I'll wait.

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I need to add something to a list of things I've noticed with BSN lately:

"BioWare removed the ability to reply to threads within the particular thread."

BioWare can you address this issue?

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lol I'm tempted to start a thread myself:

In Response To Thread: In Response To Thread: Dragon Age 2: an understated masterpiece

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Obvious hate attack on another person who disagrees. Reported.

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redBadger14 wrote...

I need to add something to a list of things I've noticed with BSN lately:

"BioWare removed the ability to reply to threads within the particular thread."

BioWare can you address this issue?

Funny thing is that this thread is probably going to outgrow the other, simply because of the people who respond to this thread because they disagree with it's existance or with the comments of the OP. Funny how it works.

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Addai67 wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

You need your own thread to respond? Why not just respond on the thread in question?


This has already been answered.

Poorly.  Attention seeking, in other words.


Oh yeah, totally. I want to catch the attention of the developers who have been blinded by their scores from IGN, etc. Despite the fact that people have been fired from such places as GameSpot for giving a bad review. And other places that have given a legitimately low score have been ignored in their ads placement.

aka Kane and Lynch.

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Meaning is not objective you fool. It's subjective no matter much you think its not. I gave an example of a meaningful choice to me concerning bethany's survival. If it wasn't meaningful to you than great but don't start spouting it as fact.


In the context of a literary work, it's not subjective. If the most important choice in the game involves whether Hawke eats a healthy apple or a plate of bacon for breakfast, that is not a meaningful choice. Bioware promised epic choices where you shape the world, choosing between an apple or bacon is -literally- not that. And there are no choices (at least that I can think of, give me examples) that amount to more than apple v. bacon. 

Also, Bethany's survival isn't a choice, my ignorant troll friend. It's something that happens or doesn't. It's more railroading. If you reload a save and decide to leave Bethany behind knowing what will happen to her, that doesn't mean you made a choice, it means you rebelled against The Plot Express. There is no way Hawke could have foreseen that the Plot Railroad would run over Bethany if he brought her along, so blaming her death on his 'choice' is just moronic. 


Your head truely is in a bucket.

I considered both the benefits of bringing Anders and Bethany to the deep rodes. Remember when Wesley died? Flemeth said a Grey Warden could save him from the taint. I seriously considered bringing him for the possibility of someone getting the taint. I also considered leaving Bethany at home to protect mother.

Those are all meaningful choices. Do you know how many different possible outcomes exist for certain events in the story? I'm guessing not.

Modifié par nicodeemus327, 24 mars 2011 - 08:23 .


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Everwarden wrote...

da0Xeffect2 wrote...
If you did not enjoy the game, that's your issue.

 
Or it could be an issue with the game not being good.

If you were swayed by pre-release hype, that's your doing.


No. That would be the doing of the marketing department and dev team who made promises and didn't come close to delivering. 



Right I'm sorry. Bioware takes away freewill and forces us to buy games with their marketing ploys. I guess me actually enjoying the game is their fault too? You claim the game isn't good. I believe it is. That's your opinion and I have mine. I thought I would like it and I did. 

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lx_theo wrote...

Obvious hate attack on another person who disagrees. Reported.


It's a hate thread now? Because I gave an opposite opinion? Lol, wow....

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CakesOnAPlane wrote...

lol I'm tempted to start a thread myself:

In Response To Thread: In Response To Thread: Dragon Age 2: an understated masterpiece


as long as you post a picture of Sandal.  I would approve of Trolling Thread for once.

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da0Xeffect2 wrote...
I guess me actually enjoying the game is their fault too? You claim the game isn't good. I believe it is. That's your opinion and I have mine. I thought I would like it and I did. 

Actually, I'm pretty sure you enjoying the game is biowares fault :wizard:

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ziloe wrote...

lx_theo wrote...

Obvious hate attack on another person who disagrees. Reported.


It's a hate thread now? Because I gave an opposite opinion? Lol, wow....


No, because you made a whole thread to attack a person about having a different opinion than you.

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da0Xeffect2 wrote...

If you did not enjoy the game, that's your issue.
If you were swayed by pre-release hype, that's your doing.
It seems foolish for you to be bashing a game and its creators because it's not your cup of tea.



I  agree with this to a point.  I also believe that providing feedback is important.  At this point though, virtually every possible complaint has been the focus of multiple threads.   These forums have been transformed into a gigantic group therapy session where people who enjoy the game come to volunteer their time counseling those who do not, and are unable to deal with those feelings in a healthy way.


I am nothing if not a humanitarian.

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Lithuasil wrote...
 (and infact have proven to leave other threads the very second you're confronted with an argument).


No. 

You're here to spout insults, and celebrate your rage. 


So true. I've spouted so very, very many insults. I have a little book of insults that I copy and paste from while wearing my rage-celebration birthday hat. 

I'm perfectly willing to tear your position down again, like I have the same very position in about five different threads today alone. But I won't waste the effort, as long as you're clearly beyond the reach of words.


So you're perfectly willing to tear my position down, but won't waste the effort. Well, thanks for clearing that up. 

Dude listen to yourself, just count the insults you've been vomiting out on this page alone. And then have a cold shower, and come back once you're interested in any form of debate. Don't worry, I'll wait.


I've counted.. two, in this thread. You've insulted me far more than that, and I'm replying in a far more civil tone than you are. I'd suggest working out those anger issues you have. 

Modifié par Everwarden, 24 mars 2011 - 08:28 .


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lx_theo wrote...

ziloe wrote...

lx_theo wrote...

Obvious hate attack on another person who disagrees. Reported.


It's a hate thread now? Because I gave an opposite opinion? Lol, wow....


No, because you made a whole thread to attack a person about having a different opinion than you.


No I didn't. It was just the perfect example to express how many people thought this game was fantastic, despite all of its flaws.

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ziloe wrote...

lx_theo wrote...

ziloe wrote...

lx_theo wrote...

Obvious hate attack on another person who disagrees. Reported.


It's a hate thread now? Because I gave an opposite opinion? Lol, wow....


No, because you made a whole thread to attack a person about having a different opinion than you.


No I didn't. It was just the perfect example to express how many people thought this game was fantastic, despite all of its flaws.


Then read what you wrote. It doesn't fall under not hateful with the content you included, how you said it, adn the fact that you made a whole new thread for this. Its very obviously is what it is.

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ziloe wrote...

 You know what? It's people like you who make both EA and the game designers think they did a spectacular job and don't have to work any harder on the next one. They can do just another rush job so that EA can monopolize on the success of the franchise, and why? Because you didn't have any real standards and as long as you carry this mentality, they're going to produce more rushed games and DLC, because you couldn't say, "No. This isn't worth the money I'm paying for it."


lol  So a person using the word understated and then a post or two later saying,. I may have been a bit too enthused by saying master piece is to blame any more than the hoard of fools that blast the game top to bottom with no real constructive criticism and offering no credit for what the game did well? 

Let's see there has been about 100 of the fool threads for every 1 that is overly optomistic.  Start a thread for each of the idiotic threads bashing everything in sight and I'll take you seriously.

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lx_theo wrote...

ziloe wrote...

lx_theo wrote...

ziloe wrote...

lx_theo wrote...

Obvious hate attack on another person who disagrees. Reported.


It's a hate thread now? Because I gave an opposite opinion? Lol, wow....


No, because you made a whole thread to attack a person about having a different opinion than you.


No I didn't. It was just the perfect example to express how many people thought this game was fantastic, despite all of its flaws.


Then read what you wrote. It doesn't fall under not hateful with the content you included, how you said it, adn the fact that you made a whole new thread for this. Its very obviously is what it is.


LOL! Or you're just overthinking. That topic had just inspired what I had been thinking for some time and thus to express that example, I used it in the thread title.

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Beerfish wrote...

ziloe wrote...

 You know what? It's people like you who make both EA and the game designers think they did a spectacular job and don't have to work any harder on the next one. They can do just another rush job so that EA can monopolize on the success of the franchise, and why? Because you didn't have any real standards and as long as you carry this mentality, they're going to produce more rushed games and DLC, because you couldn't say, "No. This isn't worth the money I'm paying for it."


lol  So a person using the word understated and then a post or two later saying,. I may have been a bit too enthused by saying master piece is to blame any more than the hoard of fools that blast the game top to bottom with no real constructive criticism and offering no credit for what the game did well? 

Let's see there has been about 100 of the fool threads for every 1 that is overly optomistic.  Start a thread for each of the idiotic threads bashing everything in sight and I'll take you seriously.


Refer to my above statement.

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ziloe wrote...
LOL! Or you're just overthinking. That topic had just inspired what I had been thinking for some time and thus to express that example, I used it in the thread title.


So what inspired the exact same thread you made like two days ago? And how does expressing it in a second thread make your points anymore valid? 

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Lithuasil wrote...

ziloe wrote...
LOL! Or you're just overthinking. That topic had just inspired what I had been thinking for some time and thus to express that example, I used it in the thread title.


So what inspired the exact same thread you made like two days ago? And how does expressing it in a second thread make your points anymore valid? 


These are two entirely different threads. One is about gaming standards and the other is about alternate endings and railroading plots.