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Warden and Hawke... both have disappeared using the Eluvians?


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At the end of DA2, Cassandra says both the Warden and Hawke have desappeared.

I was thinking they could have both gone through the Eluvians...

The Warden used the Morrigan's one, Hawke used Merrill's...

And maybe Tamlen, the dalish who first used an Eluvian... could be a party member in DA3, coming back and telling us what is there on the other side?

Do you think it is an interesting theory?

Share your thoughts, I am curious

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It was already said that Witchhunt is not considered 'Canon'

And one of the writer's posts said we should not take the disappearance thing verbatum.

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Tamlen is very dead. And doesn't Merrill shatter hers?

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Melca36 wrote...

It was already said that Witchhunt is not considered 'Canon'

And one of the writer's posts said we should not take the disappearance thing verbatum.


Yes, but they HAVE desappeared in any case, even if you DON'T play Witch Hunt...

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riccaborto wrote...

At the end of DA2, Cassandra says both the Warden and Hawke have desappeared.

I was thinking they could have both gone through the Eluvians...

The Warden used the Morrigan's one, Hawke used Merrill's...

And maybe Tamlen, the dalish who first used an Eluvian... could be a party member in DA3, coming back and telling us what is there on the other side?

Do you think it is an interesting theory?

Share your thoughts, I am curious


You kill Tamlen in Origins if you are a dalish elf so he won't be returning as a party member.

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Forst1999 wrote...

Tamlen is very dead. And doesn't Merrill shatter hers?


Merrill said they never found the body...

In my game she didn't shatter hers, don't know if it happens making different choices

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Forst1999 wrote...

Tamlen is very dead. And doesn't Merrill shatter hers?


It was still whole in my game, but that could just be a bug.

As for the topic, Flemeth coming after Hawke and the Warden is another possibility.

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riccaborto wrote...

At the end of DA2, Cassandra says both the Warden and Hawke have desappeared.

I was thinking they could have both gone through the Eluvians...

The Warden used the Morrigan's one, Hawke used Merrill's...

And maybe Tamlen, the dalish who first used an Eluvian... could be a party member in DA3, coming back and telling us what is there on the other side?

Do you think it is an interesting theory?

Share your thoughts, I am curious


There's a major flaw in you theory especially about Tamlen coming back, cause if you play a Dalish Elf Tamlen show's up during the ambush at camp in DA:O and ask you to kill him even if you refuse it still leads to fight.

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Ok, i have never seen her shattering it, just read it. Thought that was because of the bug that plays her last conversation to early. But she doesn't finish it either way.
And Tamlen's death is shown if you play a Dalish.

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My warden didnt go through the eluvian with morrigan so this wouldnt make sense

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Merril broke the mirror when I wouldn't help her by giving her the tool. The other game where I did help her all the way the mirror still didn't work and her clan was completely wiped out.

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Shadowrun1177 wrote...

riccaborto wrote...

At the end of DA2, Cassandra says both the Warden and Hawke have desappeared.

I was thinking they could have both gone through the Eluvians...

The Warden used the Morrigan's one, Hawke used Merrill's...

And maybe Tamlen, the dalish who first used an Eluvian... could be a party member in DA3, coming back and telling us what is there on the other side?

Do you think it is an interesting theory?

Share your thoughts, I am curious


There's a major flaw in you theory especially about Tamlen coming back, cause if you play a Dalish Elf Tamlen show's up during the ambush at camp in DA:O and ask you to kill him even if you refuse it still leads to fight.


I never playied the Dalish... so I didn't know...

Anyway Tamlen or not, I think the Eluvian Theory is interesting... and they will play an important role in the future...

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Pretty sure Morrigan said her mirror could only be used for one more trip.

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After some talks Merrill, she broke it, so nope, Hawke sure didn't go through it. though the two of them did run off together. On that note is it me or do the Seekers look like they can bring a world of hurt down on someone?

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 24 mars 2011 - 09:41 .


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OK GUYS, YOU ARE RIGHT... MAKE SENSE...

SO TELL ME WHERE HAVE THEY GONE, AND WHY... I WANT TO KNOW YOUR IDEAS, PLEASE :)

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I think the warden is in Tevinter (trying to find a cure for the taint) and so is my Hawke (trying to find a way to free Anders from Justice).  Of course that may not be the reason but it would be cool to have Tevinter in DA3.  I don't think they completely disappeared and I don't think they died. I think they disappeared from the radar of the chantry and Tevinter would definitely be off the radar of the chantry. I don't believe that Flemeth would go back on her word and she told Hawke that they were even.

Modifié par sevalaricgirl, 24 mars 2011 - 09:43 .


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My Hawke has "disappeared" by becoming a dreaded pirate along with Isabela :D

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sevalaricgirl wrote...

I think the warden is in Tevinter (trying to find a cure for the taint) and so is Hawke (trying to find a way to free Anders from Justice). I don't think they completely disappeared and I don't think they died. I think they disappeared from the radar of the chantry and Tevinter would definitely be off the radar of the chantry. I don't believe that Flemeth would go back on her word and she told Hawke that they were even.


That would only be true for some, I killed Anders, and my Warnded ran off with Morrigan.

I'ld say one thing is always true.

Both vanish, either alone or with a love one. Chances are it envolves Flemeth or some other force to stop some greater force. Its vauge at best. Thats just how it is. I doubt they are on vacation or something, the story keeps going.

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Everything seems to revolve around Orlais. Hints in the first game (Arl Foreshadow, Morrigan, etc), the second game hammering you over the head with it (Nexus Golem, Sandal/Bodahn, the King's visit, Warden mystery).

Somehow our Warden and Champion's story will culminate in Orlais having something to do with Flemeth's larger plan. Whatever that is, who knows? I imagine we'll get to see Morrigan again, if not the Warden, and I'd like to at least see some real closure to the Champion's story. I don't know if its economical to make big-expansions like the Throne of Bhaal was for Baldurs Gate so I think we won't see all of the hanging plot threads around the DA II characters cleared up until a sequel, though hopefully I am wrong.

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I did edit my post to say my Hawke and that Tevinter would be cool.

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I think DA3 will have a new hero who is a seeker leading a team to try to find both Hawke and the Warden. I think that the Hero will be from ferelden. They will end up going all over the country and at the end find them both. I think that DA3 will leave us hanging again and DA4 will end it. I think that the final thing will take place in Ferelden because many characters have ties there. But i dont think the qunari are done either.

P.S, Sten will be back

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Or DA3 could give you the choice to play either as either the hero of Ferelden or the Champion of Kirkwall. I now it would guarantee 2 playthroughs for most players.

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They could have, yes, but that doesn't work for everybody. More likely is they'll use that as an explanation where relevant and handwave the others away as Flemeth shenanigans.

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I just hope they don't kill them off.

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riccaborto wrote...

OK GUYS, YOU ARE RIGHT... MAKE SENSE...

SO TELL ME WHERE HAVE THEY GONE, AND WHY... I WANT TO KNOW YOUR IDEAS, PLEASE :)


My Surana Warden is with Morrigan and their son, watched over by his faithful Mabari Hound; they are planning to irrevocably change the world.

As Anders encouraged, my apostate Hawke is leading rebel mages fighting to keep their autonomy from the templars trying to kill them, with Merrill at his side.

That's the canonical fate of my Hero and my Champion for my run - two blood mages who made a difference for their people.