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[ShadowGhost317]

[Dem_B]

Angmir wrote...

I am positive that in ME3 we will find out that KaidanAhley didnt actualy die on Virmire - they will return as Reaper agents -our ultimate nemesis in the lest game - mark my words. I always puzzled me that we didnt actualy see them die. I sense a force disturbance here - somthing tells me that their story is not quite finnished yet. Just imagine how shocking that would be, an amazing plot twist that ME3 needs !!

I am not in a mood for further elaborating right now but i am sure you can go on with the topic form were I left

Intresting theory isnt it ?

You're not the first who came up with this idea.
But my idea is more realistic, since I'm not talking about survived after a nuclear explosion - it is not possible, I'm talking about the who we rescued, who have not joined us in ME2.

My idea 2 months before.

[Angmir]

Dem_B wrote...

You're not the first who came up with this idea.
But my idea is more realistic, since I'm not talking about survived after a nuclear explosion - it is not possible, I'm talking about the who we rescued, who have not joined us in ME2.

My idea 2 months before.

You see in my theory  dont sugest that VDecesed SURVIVED THE NUKE !! A lot of people tend to coment on that - and it was never a part of my theory - nuked = dead.
What I do sugest is that VDecesed (so called) was actually PICKED UP by Saren (or other geth) just before the explosion when he was knocked uncontious, or even dead by gunfire (darker scenario). The dead would be then rebuilded as Husk or Avatar - or whomever controled by the Reapers (but maintaing his memories and inteligance, jet twisted to hate Shepherd. The videos I posted in previous post confirm that there is a serius gap between last seeing VD and explosion - enought time for ME3 developers to use that as an excuse to bring them back in ME3.

I never sugested survivig the nuke - i dont know why 2/3 of the replyies here coment on that - people tend to get lazy and they just see the title and they reply without thought.
And i dont care about people liking that idea or not - I myself am not  a huge fan of it (it is a bit strained still possible to occur, and I wouldnt mind this to be actualy a part of ME3),  what I was trying to tell you all is this is the POSSIBILITY - as we didnt see the pernament dead scene, nor we recovered the body - so always some POSSIBILITY remains for developers to exploit.

Whether this is likely or not thats another topic ...

[Babli]

After DA 2 I wouldnt be surprised by this :/

[android654]

Manic Sheep wrote...

Um they were nuked. You don’t survive being nuked. It would likely have looked very fake and tasteless had they actually shown them being blown to pieces.
It would not be a good plot twist IMO it would be the sort of stupid twist that makes me throw the game out the window.
Maybe the reapers will clone them or something like that but even then, that’s a horrible and over used twist.

Yeah, Kaidan got atomized. He's gone for good. And cloning is rather cheap too, even for a space opera. Its been done to death.

[Someone With Mass]

Contrary to popular belief, you can't survive a nuclear explosion by ducking and cover or by hiding in a fridge.

[Angmir]

lol just after my post seting it stright jet another 2 coments - on "surviving the nuke thread"

I SAID MY THEORY ISNT ABOUT SURVIVING THE NUKE !!

plz coment on the theory - not on the damn withstanding nuke explosion.

[Asheer_Khan]

This would be one of the ridiculous moves from BW side (like sudden appearance of alive and heathy Malak on board of the Ravager in Kotor 2 when i was pretty sure he went down to the star core with entire Star Forge...) BUT... with current ME dev team... even most impossible thing can become possible...

However i seriously hope that at least in this one time Virmire dead WILL REMAIN DEAD... ME games aren't Resident Evil where zombie drive in Ford combi...

[Silmane]

Angmir wrote...

Dem_B wrote...

You're not the first who came up with this idea.
But my idea is more realistic, since I'm not talking about survived after a nuclear explosion - it is not possible, I'm talking about the who we rescued, who have not joined us in ME2.

My idea 2 months before.

You see in my theory  dont sugest that VDecesed SURVIVED THE NUKE !! A lot of people tend to coment on that - and it was never a part of my theory - nuked = dead.
What I do sugest is that VDecesed (so called) was actually PICKED UP by Saren (or other geth) just before the explosion when he was knocked uncontious, or even dead by gunfire (darker scenario). The dead would be then rebuilded as Husk or Avatar - or whomever controled by the Reapers (but maintaing his memories and inteligance, jet twisted to hate Shepherd. The videos I posted in previous post confirm that there is a serius gap between last seeing VD and explosion - enought time for ME3 developers to use that as an excuse to bring them back in ME3.

I never sugested survivig the nuke - i dont know why 2/3 of the replyies here coment on that - people tend to get lazy and they just see the title and they reply without thought.
And i dont care about people liking that idea or not - I myself am not  a huge fan of it (it is a bit strained still possible to occur, and I wouldnt mind this to be actualy a part of ME3),  what I was trying to tell you all is this is the POSSIBILITY - as we didnt see the pernament dead scene, nor we recovered the body - so always some POSSIBILITY remains for developers to exploit.

Whether this is likely or not thats another topic ...

The problem with your theory for me is that Saren was being manipulated by Sovereign. He was doing what Sovereign wanted pretty much at all times. It was never in Sovereign's plan to "Turn Shepard's allies against him" through some Husk/Avatar reconstruction of some random military person lost in a sea of bodies on a facility that was about to be blown to pieces. 

Sovereign and indirectly, Saren, were on a mission to bring back the Reapers. What is the point of bringing back a character that Shepard has known for a month or two at best, just to try and hurt his feelings? 

Yes, I know everyone's Shepard is different in their own ME universe, but no. Just no.

Where would the evil Ashley/Kaiden be at if not on Sovereign? We both know what happened to Sovereign. 

Would it be sentient or a mindless creature just wondering...wherever with no spaceship or just..

Just no. Please? No. 

[CroGamer002]

Last time I saw Kadian/Ashley, he/she was literally on the nuke.

I think they are not JUST dead, but vaporized too.

[Silmane]

Mesina2 wrote...

Last time I saw Kadian/Ashley, he/she was literally on the nuke.

I think they are not JUST dead, but vaporized too.

OP is talking AA Tower Kaiden/Ashley. 

[vimpel]

Datas_12 wrote...

this thread sucks

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[Dem_B]

@Angmir.
I think in your theory, the main thing - survived is an agent of the Reapers.

But if you're important is the fact that he was able to survive, welcome. But it is less likely than what I'm told.

I support the idea of friend as an agent of the Reapers, but do not support such a speculation on the survival after a nuclear explosion.

It was impossible to detonate the bomb remotely, because someone must had stay and detonate it.
Whoever blew up, pressed the detonator is dead.
You are trying to cling to the air, but activate the detonator and avoid death was impossible.
This sacrifice was not in vain and this is even more tragic.

[Tazzmission]

Angmir wrote...

I am positive that in ME3 we will find out that KaidanAhley didnt actualy die on Virmire - they will return as Reaper agents -our ultimate nemesis in the lest game - mark my words. I always puzzled me that we didnt actualy see them die. I sense a force disturbance here - somthing tells me that their story is not quite finnished yet. Just imagine how shocking that would be, an amazing plot twist that ME3 needs !!

I am not in a mood for further elaborating right now but i am sure you can go on with the topic form were I left

Intresting theory isnt it ?

not even possible because you see a cutscene of the non vs being sacrificed..... i will laugh though if ash/kadian came back like nicole from dead space lol

Modifié par Tazzmission, 25 mars 2011 - 01:17 .

[eye basher]

unless the reapers have a way of bringing ash back to life. NO!

[Taleroth]

Angmir wrote...

 I always puzzled me that we didnt actualy see them die.

It's kind of hard to watch someone vaporize instantly at ground zero of a nuclear explosion.  What exactly would you think to see?  Tick tick GONE

[Coach]

I don't remember a cutscene showing someone being sacrificed. And w/o that type of evidence, they could very well be alive. The Reapers are methodical planners... so a contingency plan would make sense. Humans came out of nowhere and suddenly posed a serious challenge. And they'd have to set off the nuke to make it believable anyway. It's good to have an Army of AI soldiers willing to sacrifice themselves for a cause.

[Silmane]

Tazzmission wrote...

Angmir wrote...

I am positive that in ME3 we will find out that KaidanAhley didnt actualy die on Virmire - they will return as Reaper agents -our ultimate nemesis in the lest game - mark my words. I always puzzled me that we didnt actualy see them die. I sense a force disturbance here - somthing tells me that their story is not quite finnished yet. Just imagine how shocking that would be, an amazing plot twist that ME3 needs !!

I am not in a mood for further elaborating right now but i am sure you can go on with the topic form were I left

Intresting theory isnt it ?

not even possible because you see a cutscene of the non vs being sacrificed..... i will laugh though if ash/kadian came back like nicole from dead space lol

News flash, she didn't. 

[CroGamer002]

Silmane wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Last time I saw Kadian/Ashley, he/she was literally on the nuke.

I think they are not JUST dead, but vaporized too.

OP is talking AA Tower Kaiden/Ashley. 

There's no plot flag for making Ash/Kaidan to die on either AA tower or on nuke.

And still they are too close to nuke and Ash/Kaidan still could have been vaporized.


And I don't think Saren would risk going for AA just to capture Ash/Kaidan and risk getting killed/wounded by her/him and be in the blast zone of nuke that will explode any second.

[Silmane]

Mesina2 wrote...

Silmane wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Last time I saw Kadian/Ashley, he/she was literally on the nuke.

I think they are not JUST dead, but vaporized too.

OP is talking AA Tower Kaiden/Ashley. 

There's no plot flag for making Ash/Kaidan to die on either AA tower or on nuke.

And still they are too close to nuke and Ash/Kaidan still could have been vaporized.


And I don't think Saren would risk going for AA just to capture Ash/Kaidan and risk getting killed/wounded by her/him and be in the blast zone of nuke that will explode any second.

Oh, I know. I'm against this entire thread. rofl

[CroGamer002]

Silmane wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Silmane wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Last time I saw Kadian/Ashley, he/she was literally on the nuke.

I think they are not JUST dead, but vaporized too.

OP is talking AA Tower Kaiden/Ashley. 

There's no plot flag for making Ash/Kaidan to die on either AA tower or on nuke.

And still they are too close to nuke and Ash/Kaidan still could have been vaporized.


And I don't think Saren would risk going for AA just to capture Ash/Kaidan and risk getting killed/wounded by her/him and be in the blast zone of nuke that will explode any second.

Oh, I know. I'm against this entire thread. rofl

I know.

[roflchoppaz]

[Elite Midget]

Doubt it. Why would the Reapers care about a random meatbag that isn't Shepard?

[J0HNL3I]

roflchoppaz wrote...

[noobzor99]

I think it would be an awesome plot twist, and a plausible one. The reapers seem to have a rather unhealthy obsession with shepard (killing him then trying to buy his/her corpse?) so taking an interest in the life-forms Shepard keeps around in battle isn't too far-fetched.
Anything can happen in scifi.