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[xvynx]

I see quite a few people falling for "this is the real ending of ME2" or "this is the bridge between ME2 and ME3 story".

Those were said to sell more DLC making it sound mandatory. In reality it is nothing more than a sidequest like shadow broker, here is official word on what i am saying.



http://www.joystiq.c...al-dlc-preview/





"Arrival is a side-quest, ultimately," explains Jesse Houston, producer at BioWare,

[Tazzmission]

your a moron i just saw the 22 minute video and trust me it is story dlc

[xvynx]

funny i watched the same video, you my friend are easy to fool.

[AquamanOS]

Suffice to say, yeah. It's not an new post game direct connection to ME3, but after seeing the preview it is story releated, and you are not alone for the whole thing. I'm starting to think they are trying real hard to surprise us.

[The-Person]

And? Did you really expect it to be some earth shattering mission? It's DLC, and not everyone will buy it.

[g-w-m]

Ofcourse its not a real ending, that is already covered in ME2. It was never going to be anything more than LotSB, just canon events that happen between 2 & 3 but put into game so we can experience it first hand.

Thanks for the link though.

[SavesTheDay]

Nevermind.

Modifié par SavesTheDay, 24 mars 2011 - 10:35 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

A side-quest, by definition, is an optional mission which could be completed depending on player choice. LOTSB is also a side-quest. The difference lies within the fact that these "side-quests" are canon. That is, whether you bother completing them or not, they have happened and will affect ME3. This is true for both LOTSB and Arrival; this is why they're called bridging side-quests.

[xvynx]

ok, lets see, what appeared to be major in ME1 actually had the smallest if any effect in ME2, how much do you guys honestly expect a DLC to affect ME3.

Im not saying its just about shooting stuff but it is certainly not a real ending and not a bridge which is what ive been seeing.

[Fiery Phoenix]

xvynx wrote...

ok, lets see, what appeared to be major in ME1 actually had the smallest if any effect in ME2, how much do you guys honestly expect a DLC to affect ME3.

Im not saying its just about shooting stuff but it is certainly not a real ending and not a bridge which is what ive been seeing.

Like I just said, we have firsthand proof that LOTSB and Arrival are canon. They are canon side-quests, not optional side-quests. That is to say, they happen and have happened regardless of whether you choose to do them.

[Terror_K]

I have to say, learning that you can start this quest pretty much as soon as you get The Normandy disappoints me somewhat. I really think they should have had this tagged as a "Suicide Mission Completed" only affair if it truly is supposed to be a bridge-gapping set-up for ME3. I always thought the concept should have been that much like the SR1 is attacked about a month or two after the end of ME1, this should take place timewise at least the same amount of time after ME2. Simply put, I don't have much hope for this being a proper set-up for ME3 if it can take place so damn early in the story. It just doesn't gel to me having something that should be essentially a cliffhanger and big "dun dun DUNN!!" moment slotted so casually within the middle of the existing narrative. To me that would just neuter its impact.

[Hathur]

Sigh... the writer at joystiq is an idiot and has never played ME2..

Quote:

"If you're an Adept or Engineer, for example, the hindrance of only being able to wear light armor could be a particularly difficult weakness to overcome -- I fought a lot during my brief playtime."

This idiot "journalist" doesn't seem to realize that every class can wear the same armor and that a Engineer arguably has higher survivability when solo thanks to the drone.

Modifié par Hathur, 24 mars 2011 - 10:41 .

[The-Person]

Terror_K wrote...

I have to say, learning that you can start this quest pretty much as soon as you get The Normandy disappoints me somewhat. I really think they should have had this tagged as a "Suicide Mission Completed" only affair if it truly is supposed to be a bridge-gapping set-up for ME3. I always thought the concept should have been that much like the SR1 is attacked about a month or two after the end of ME1, this should take place timewise at least the same amount of time after ME2. Simply put, I don't have much hope for this being a proper set-up for ME3 if it can take place so damn early in the story. It just doesn't gel to me having something that should be essentially a cliffhanger and big "dun dun DUNN!!" moment slotted so casually within the middle of the existing narrative. To me that would just neuter its impact.

It's probably for convenience, what happens to people who lost there save? Should they really have to play the whole game over just so they can play some DLC?

[xvynx]

not optional? so are they mandatory or something? dude you want to see every little detail you chose in me2 affecting me3, i get it but its fair to tell people this is not worth it if what they expect is some sort of real ending.

How about "dlc with effects in ME3 but nothing major" would you be happy with that

And yes the writter is a ****** but the quote comes from Jesse, not the writter.

Modifié par xvynx, 24 mars 2011 - 10:45 .

[VonStrangle]

Why has this place become a breeding ground for awful trolling?

[Fiery Phoenix]

xvynx wrote...

not optional? so are they mandatory or something? dude you want to see every little detail you chose in me2 affecting me3, i get it but its fair to tell people this is not worth it if what they expect is some sort of real ending.

How about "dlc with effects in ME3 but nothing major" would you be happy with that

They are not optional in the sense that they are canon; they are only optional as far as the player is concerned (i.e. whether they choose to complete them in their game), but in the grand scheme of things, they aren't.

I really don't know how to explain this anymore. I'm sorry. Maybe someone can clear it up better.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 24 mars 2011 - 10:47 .

[xvynx]

theres "Shepard is dead-canon" and theres "Conrad verner is back-canon".

[Tazzmission]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

xvynx wrote...

not optional? so are they mandatory or something? dude you want to see every little detail you chose in me2 affecting me3, i get it but its fair to tell people this is not worth it if what they expect is some sort of real ending.

How about "dlc with effects in ME3 but nothing major" would you be happy with that

They are not optional in the sense that they are canon; they are only optional as far as the player is concerned (i.e. whether they choose to complete them in their game), but in the grand scheme of things, they aren't.

I really don't know how to explain this anymore. I'm sorry. Maybe someone can clear it up better.

imo this dlc shouldve been after sm only expecially after the end scene in the me2 story. now i do believe the reason we can play this after horizon is because alot of people thought the collector story was meh.

[Raizo]

Strange that you can complete "Arrival" after Horizon and according to the "Giant Bomb" preview if you do do it before the SI it changes the way certain things in ME2 playout.

[cpt. awsome]

so what! its more ME2 gametime. does anything else really matter ? it beats just standing around on your ship doing jack****

[Tazzmission]

Raizo wrote...

Strange that you can complete "Arrival" after Horizon and according to the "Giant Bomb" preview if you do do it before the SI it changes the way certain things in ME2 playout.

i didnt catch that part i guess it was because the 2 dudes were chatting it up

[Tazzmission]

cpt. awsome wrote...

so what! its more ME2 gametime. does anything else really matter ? it beats just standing around on your ship doing jack****

agreed!

[Terror_K]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

xvynx wrote...

not optional? so are they mandatory or something? dude you want to see every little detail you chose in me2 affecting me3, i get it but its fair to tell people this is not worth it if what they expect is some sort of real ending.

How about "dlc with effects in ME3 but nothing major" would you be happy with that

They are not optional in the sense that they are canon; they are only optional as far as the player is concerned (i.e. whether they choose to complete them in their game), but in the grand scheme of things, they aren't.

I really don't know how to explain this anymore. I'm sorry. Maybe someone can clear it up better.

I'll try. What Fiery Phoenix is trying to say is that events in LotSB and Arrival will happen regardless of whether you play them or not and import a save into ME3 or not. It's a bit like starting a new game in ME2 without importing from ME1 and the fact that despite this several events simply happen whether you played them out or not (Eden Prime was attacked, Benezia died on Noveria, The Citadel was attacked, etc.). Whether you've played and imported these DLC saves or not, the events from LotSB and Arrival will --according to the canon-- have happened anyway. You're not playing them isn't going to erase the fact that the events --according to the lore and canon-- took place.

[BP20125810]

They never said it was going to be an expansion. In fact, one of the Devs specfically denied such a claim when it was made weeks ago.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Thanks, Terror. Hopefully that lays this to rest.