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So Who Do You Love More? The Warden or Hawke


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#101
aksoileau

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Hawke. While I miss being an elf, I like the voiced protagonist. Especially the "Gamlen can't say good morning without lying twice." That wouldn't be funny if it was written as a dialogue choice IMO.

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Im going to have to say Hawke. The warden is really nothing to me and he is an emotionless person with no backround, I know there are the origins but for Hawke we know his mother, you fight with his brother and sister, do a quest for his uncle. Plus Hawke actually talks. Im sorry but i just feel like its awkward when someone talks to my character and I have no response back.

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Hawke.
There were almost none of those moments I sometimes got in ME where I thought "I don't want to say any of those things..", which was my only real fear, so it still felt entirely like my character. Plus the actual voice over (only tried the female one so far) was exactly what I hoped for on every dialogue option I chose, whenever she asked a question she actually sounded curious, not just flatly going "Tell me this.".

That said; I'm more interested in the warden's story then Hawke's. Not sure why. I was the same with the PCs from kotOR for some reason.

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Without hesitation...MY Warden. Hawke would have made a notable companion of his. He was on the level of Sten (Origins), an interesting character with a bit of backstory, but not really of the substance to base an entire story upon.

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Jester12 wrote...
 The warden is really nothing to me and he is an emotionless person with no backround, I know there are the origins but for Hawke we know his mother, you fight with his brother and sister, do a quest for his uncle. Plus Hawke actually talks. Im sorry but i just feel like its awkward when someone talks to my character and I have no response back.


I keep seeing these posts and at the risk of pulling off-topic, I just don't get these replies. You like Hawke more than Warden, that's fine by me...it's an opinion, and it's the right one for you so I don't even want to debate it, I'm fine with people liking things differently than me, but we 'know' Hawke better, and he has more personality? That's just lazy to me.

The Warden had no background? You started the game off fleshing out his background. What happened to the Warden Cousland was what the Hawke's should have been, not here's a brother or something, oops he's dead, here's a sister or something, oops she's gone, I felt more for 'I want to see a Sowrd Cousland' than I did the Ogre bait. The City Elf was darker than any amount of exploding blood bags in Dragon Age 2, and probably any other game out there, and if you want to play an anti-hero you can't get a 'better' start than that one. As much as they pumped up Hawke as the Refugee into Champion story, I think the Warden did it a million times better in Origins as you found yourself fleeing both darkspawn and assassins while molding yourself and the world into an army for a major throw-down. Hawke did get a nice smoking jacket.

And I never understood that reading instantly meant no emotions. Some of the most moving things I've ever experienced have been the written word, but somehow it's become very un-cool or the popular thing to rail on that the fact you actually had to read responses made the character devoid of emotions which really makes me wonder.

Modifié par Swoo, 25 mars 2011 - 04:43 .


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the warden. loved playing as a non-human.

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Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Without hesitation...MY Warden. Hawke would have made a notable companion of his. He was on the level of Sten (Origins), an interesting character with a bit of backstory, but not really of the substance to base an entire story upon.


i hated sten... he was annoying. especially cutting our talks short. i should have left him in his cage.

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The Warden.

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I liked all my wardens, but Hawke feels more like a real person brought to life by excellent voice acting. And unlike ME I always felt there was a response that fitted my Hawke.

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The Warden, without any doubt.

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Hawke. Somehow I felt Hawke was in the hurricane being jolted around and having a wild time, while adventures with the Warden felt like he/she was in the eye of the storm, being silent and the world amongst him/her shaping. Hawke felt more into the action.

Modifié par Vanaer, 25 mars 2011 - 06:09 .


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Warden. I feel no personal connection with Hawke

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Medhia Nox

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My Warden - because he ran toward the Blight - not away from it.

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Hawke, on account of the destiny trailer, I also played the entire game with the Staff of Parthalan. Garret Hawke epitomises BA in the DA universe. Also Arishok > Loghain.

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aksoileau wrote...

Hawke. While I miss being an elf, I like the voiced protagonist. Especially the "Gamlen can't say good morning without lying twice." That wouldn't be funny if it was written as a dialogue choice IMO.


:lol: Exactly!

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Medhia Nox

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Guess you guys must hate books - all that 'lifeless' reading.

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Hawke was much better, and could of been even better if Bioware tried.

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Will Shred wrote...

My warden, because he was *mine*. DA:O gave you a lot of flexibility to shape your warden through the origin stories and game story. I felt like Hawke was Hawke, that even though I could somewhat shape his personality, he was largely predetermined and as a result I was playing someone else's character rather than my own. It was fine, I didn't mind, but since the question is about whether we loved the warden or Hawke more, I vote warden :)

StingingVelvet wrote...

The warden was my character, I created her and chose her personality and allegiances. Hawke is a character Bioware made and they allow me to choose when she is pissy or not.
 

Curlain wrote...

The Warden, he will always be my character, who's personality and character came from myself. Hawke is BioWare's character that I had some influence on, and really felt just like the other companion characters, someone I found out about as I played the game, but never my character.

RazorrX wrote...

I am one of the people who feel that Hawke was a Bioware character that I got to play, where the Warden was my character.

So my Warden, hands down.


All of the above. The Warden enabled me to project myself into the game world, thus I cared much more about my Warden and am very attached to her. Hawke was someone else's story I was going along with (as Shepard was), like watching a movie rather than being in the movie.

Modifié par Tamyn, 25 mars 2011 - 08:00 .


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Don't actually have a reason, but I prefer the Warden. I liked Hawke, but something was missing.

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Hawke.

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Its kind of unfair to compare hawke because of his emotes or voiced acting feature, because thats what it is ... a feature. If both games would have been the same in that sense people would take the warden, Im sure of it.

I take the warden

While Hawke was playing the merc or smuggler for a year, The warden was killing abominations, templars,wherewolves,darkspawn,dragons,ogre,brontos,dwarves,elves...darkspawn, making deals with the circle, reinstating a king for Orzammar, helping the dales, kicking ass in the fade, found andrastes ashes and was the first to use 'em, had a dog with no dlc requirement and killed the archdemon.... and united ferelden.

Do I need to say more? lol

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i like them both. one appeals to my hero fantasy, the other to a story(at least prologue/act 1 [either way you'll always be a refugee]) all too similar to my family's.

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Definitely the warden! Hawke isn't supposed to be on the same level with the warden. The story of the grey warden is much more interesting, because it's a very dangerous and exciting life of one person, who was able to protect the whole "world" even without fear of dying to become such a warden by drinking the blood of monsters! I sympathize with such a hero like her (in both games I played as a female).
I don't say that Hawke isn't an interesting character, but she's still not the one, who has the ability to unite all the people to fight against darkspawns and evil and to overcome this finally)

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Tamyn wrote...

The Warden enabled me to project myself into the game world, thus I cared much more about my Warden and am very attached to her. Hawke was someone else's story I was going along with (as Shepard was), like watching a movie rather than being in the movie.


That's a thing I wanted to add ;)

#125
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My Warden definetely. Was a part of a better story, had more interesting companions and even without a voice was still a well written character that had alot of soul.

Hawke was good, but playing him felt somewhat like an adventure game, even with a voice you never know what he's going to say. And the fact that he felt like he was living in the shadow of the Warden (could never reach the same epicness, and we're reminded of that in game as well).

I don't mind VO, but if they made it so that you know Exactly what Hawke is going to say, then I might've liked him more.